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P.T.

So about that "Free Aim" Takedown Series they added

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P.T.

So they added one series of the showdown mode yesterday that is said to be "free aim" which had me kinda pumped to hear. Upon playing it however i come to find out its not actually fully free aim. In your settings there is a settting for free aim that gives aim assist. You can turn it all the way down for it to be off ( how everyones should be locked when in free aim) or you can turn it all the way up and you still get some aim assist. So to find that out was rather disappointing. While the aim assist is not as strong as in the other modes, it still will let you lock onto someone if you just put your reticle very close to them and press aim.

 

Why is Rockstar so against total free aim? I really dont get it . If it is free aim , then let it be fully free aim for everyone. Make the playing field actually level across the board. If someone wants assisted aim , there are matches for that already.

 

While i am disappointed that its not totally free aim, i will say it was more fun than the fully assisted aim bs. I actually enjoyed those matches a lot more ( even with the slight aim assist).I really hope more people see know about it who want to play free aim. It seems Rockstar is not really making any push to get this info out though. It was not in the patch notes, you can not join if from quick join. The ONLY place you can see it is in the online menu when you first load up ( or open menu and go to online) . It is a stand alone takedown series labeled free aim.  I hope more people play it to show Rockstar we want more free aim for all showdown series. Even with some people using assisted aim in free aim , the matches i played actually felt like old west shoot outs. Where people were firing off numerous rounds to kill people. Instead of just 1 shot and you or the person your shooting is dead. Really felt more like a western shootout , as it should. I just hope more people who are into free aim notice it and play it a lot . I did notice at random times i got 20 xp during a match that simply said "20xp Free Aim". That was about the only bonus i saw for playing it .

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boppa_

I've been asking / hoping / anticipating for a true and dedicated free aim option in this game from day one. 

 

I played the single player in free aim and it was so immersive. 

 

I personally find it amazing that people can enjoy aim assist PvP or PvE. 

 

The closest we have at the moment is Defensive mode, but even then there are aim assists built into the game and the ability cards. 

 

I can only hope that full fat and fair free aim is added soon. 

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executor404

It' the featured series. So they'll probably swap between different modes to be free aim every other week or so.

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P.T.
28 minutes ago, executor404 said:

It' the featured series. So they'll probably swap between different modes to be free aim every other week or so.

Ok didnt know it was the featured series, nothing i saw eluded to that. Its great they added something with free aim. I just really wish Rockstar understood , when people want free aim they want it locked to total free aim , not allowing any assisted aiming. I mean its the very definition of FREE AIM. 

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CosmicBuffalo

LoL, its people running around using PIB.  Not free aim.

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ThaBirdCoot
24 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said:

LoL, its people running around using PIB.  Not free aim.

As expected.

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Hudawg
5 hours ago, P.T. said:

 

 

Why is Rockstar so against total free aim? I really dont get it 

This sh*t start in next gen gtao.

 

Wtf 'free aim assisted aim'?   No one asked for it, players begged for it to be removed.

 

R* response was 'DuH'

 

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P.T.
18 hours ago, Hudawg said:

This sh*t start in next gen gtao.

 

Wtf 'free aim assisted aim'?   No one asked for it, players begged for it to be removed.

 

R* response was 'DuH'

 

Yeah its rather stupid quite frankly. Its not free aim unless its actually free aim. I had a few people 1 host head shotting me while i was running around yesterday. They clearly have their assited aim on foot all the way up . I just do not get why Rockstar can not just give us what we are asking for . Those people who dont like free aim are not ( or would not ) play it at all if there was no assisted aim available at all. Thats the whole point of Free Aim. 

 

I even had a disccussion yesterday with a guy in our lobby because he thought because it said free aim there was no aim assist allowed. I had to explain to him that it is if people have it set up in their settings ( and someone in there for sure did). When the same person keeps killing you with 1 shot to the head and your constantly moving ..... it kinda tells you who is using it . The guy had no idea that was an option and was pissed when he found out people could use assisted aim.

 

While the assisted aim is no where near as powerful as in the normal lobbies, it still helps people. However even though its not fully what id like , i still have enjoyed playing in the free aim showdown over any showdowns ive played before it. It actually feels like a real shoot out for once. Ive rarely run into more than 1-2 people in a match still using assisted aim . I really enjoy being able to use my scopes on my rifles now. Hitting someone with it feels so good now.

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Riznind

Played it yesterday i dont feel much difference with auto aim, but i didnt play showdowns for a couple months so it must be me😁

 

Hopefully it's a first step to get full free aim only. At least they named it (free aim) lol😁

 

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P.T.
17 hours ago, Riznind said:

Played it yesterday i dont feel much difference with auto aim, but i didnt play showdowns for a couple months so it must be me😁

 

Hopefully it's a first step to get full free aim only. At least they named it (free aim) lol😁

 

If it didnt feel any different, then you must have your auto aim slider all the way up . It is still slightly different even with it all the way up. You have to have your reticle literally on the guy when you aim in order for it to lock onto them , instead of just slightly near them ( as it is in normal mode) . Also staying locked on is not quite as easy it seems.  

 

For me the first thing i noticed was how much shooting there was going on before people actually died. When battling someone , it was a much longer battle that one person fires one shot most of the time. The few that went that way, i knew when they had killed me in one shot numerous times ( while i was moving around) they clearly have their auto aim all the way up to make it was effective as possible in free aim ( still i dont think its as effective as it is in normal auto aim lobbies though).

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Master Tyrus

They're hoping people dont play it so they have an excuse to scrap it altogether. This update is catering to the bottom of the barrel type players who'll still spit their dummy out when they inevitably get starched. Seen a lot of people celebrating the destruction of slippery bastard, but they wont be happy when a card they use is made redundant. 

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P.T.
16 hours ago, Master Tyrus said:

They're hoping people dont play it so they have an excuse to scrap it altogether. 

Sadly i feel your right. Thats why , eventhough its not 100 % what us free aimers want, i hope everyone plays it often while its there and be sures to like each map afterwards. We probably need all the "attention" on it we can get so maybe they add more in the future. Maybe one day with true free aim and all assisted aim sliders are locked to the off position( why is that so dang hard?)

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GEИESIS

Who the f*ck thought at R* that it was a good idea to enable ability cards in this free aim mode?! It doesn't matter if it's free aim or not cuz everyone is using PIB to get kills! Ruins the purpose of Free f*cking Aim!

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Hudawg
On ‎9‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 3:50 PM, Master Tyrus said:

They're hoping people dont play it so they have an excuse to scrap it altogether. This update is catering to the bottom of the barrel type players who'll still spit their dummy out when they inevitably get starched. Seen a lot of people celebrating the destruction of slippery bastard, but they wont be happy when a card they use is made redundant. 

Well, to be honest.  Everyones too busy playing the new free roam content to care about their pvp game modes.

 

Free roam is their most popular game mode.  If there's no proper free aim free roam, theres zero point in having free aim pvp game modes.

 

The SB change was basically a slap in the face for free aim players.  SB was the only thing in the game giving free aim players any sort of equal footing in terms of pvp.

 

R* is catering to the bottom of the barrel players.  IMO I think one of R* game devs plays pvp game modes every blue moon, gets his ass kicked, then makes changes to help himself have more of a chance.  Its the only way I can even explain how PIB remains untouched and SB has been nerfed.  

 

 

 

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tonko
21 hours ago, GEИESIS said:

Who the f*ck thought at R* that it was a good idea to enable ability cards in this free aim mode?! It doesn't matter if it's free aim or not cuz everyone is using PIB to get kills! Ruins the purpose of Free f*cking Aim!

They're pushing ability cards down our throats until we puke regardless of the stupidity, imbalance and Harry Poterism the said cards bring into PVP mix.

 

 

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DarksunDaFirst
On 9/14/2019 at 12:24 PM, GEИESIS said:

Who the f*ck thought at R* that it was a good idea to enable ability cards in this free aim mode?! It doesn't matter if it's free aim or not cuz everyone is using PIB to get kills! Ruins the purpose of Free f*cking Aim!

Maybe that's the reasoning...if they make pure free aim, it would make some ability cards absolutely worthless, and others to be Primo.  Not a fan of R*'s controls to enjoy free aim, but I still think Ability Cards are the worst thing they could have put into this game, and this kind of just makes even worse.  

To be fair though, I don't use PiB to get Kills against people...I use it to get quick kills against squirrels and tiny birds.  I aim up on the dome better than Dead Eye can.

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Happy Hunter

I don't know why PIB is allowed with stuff that's supposed to be free aim. These matches, horse races, Slippery Bastard (before they ruined it), and so on.

 

I have to give these a try still. Not because I'm some really avid free aim player, but just because it must feel very different, and I'm curious.

 

How strong is the aim assist? Like what you get on snipers when people are closer up? If it's like that it doesn't seem like such a big deal. Though I guess with other guns you'll always be close enough for it to kick in, whereas often with snipers I'm way too far back.

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Chrismads

Did they remove "free aim"? Can't find it on the list anymore

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Brutal Trout
7 hours ago, Happy Hunter said:

How strong is the aim assist? Like what you get on snipers when people are closer up? If it's like that it doesn't seem like such a big deal. Though I guess with other guns you'll always be close enough for it to kick in, whereas often with snipers I'm way too far back.

It's very light but the issue with it is when you are "locked on" target and something passes by in front of said target, it will brake your aim. Very annoying when hunting for exemple. 

 

In PvP it will make that small adjustment you usually have to do to hit your target. Some shots that feeled "off" where actually on. 

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P.T.
3 hours ago, Chrismads said:

Did they remove "free aim"? Can't find it on the list anymore

i hope not, because it was the only way to join it was in the list. Although it would not surprise me at all. Rockstar just continues to piss me off . So much potential , so little actually done with it in the right manner. Just kinda pathetic to cater to casuals only . 

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GEИESIS

Yeah, it's not there for me anymore. 

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P.T.
47 minutes ago, GEИESIS said:

Yeah, it's not there for me anymore. 

Welp guess im back to not playing this then . SMH

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GEИESIS
1 minute ago, P.T. said:

Welp guess im back to not playing this then . SMH

They said there's new free aim mode in Newswire but I haven't checked yet.

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P.T.
Just now, GEИESIS said:

They said there's new free aim mode in Newswire but I haven't checked yet.

Yes its the shootout showdowns this week. Ill haev to check them out . 

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GEИESIS

I just want free aim showdown without ability cards. Common R*

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P.T.
34 minutes ago, GEИESIS said:

I just want free aim showdown without ability cards. Common R*

Same here  and with all assisted aim settings locked to off for everyone who joins. Two things they could do to make these showdown series really really awesome and fun. I guess we just need to flood their feedback page with these two requests daily .... i know im going to literally flood it daily with this request. 

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Coxbox

I agree with this completely at the moment all it seems to be is PIB and shotguns. 

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Hudawg
2 hours ago, GEИESIS said:

I just want free aim showdown without ability cards. Common R*

Its not the ability cards that's the problem.  Its the tonics/stash items.

 

All tonics and stash items should be locked during pvp.  


Old Red Dead had PIB.  And you had to earn and only use it when needed.  Worked great like that.  

 

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GEИESIS
17 hours ago, Hudawg said:

Its not the ability cards that's the problem.  Its the tonics/stash items.

 

All tonics and stash items should be locked during pvp.  


Old Red Dead had PIB.  And you had to earn and only use it when needed.  Worked great like that.  

 

I got nothing against PIB since it has been part of Red Dead since the beginning, it's just annoying getting painted when I want to enjoy Free-Aim PvP without getting painted.

 

Fully agree with you about those Tonics. It doesn't matter in Free Roam but in Showdowns it's just a mess.

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tonko
10 hours ago, Hudawg said:

Its not the ability cards that's the problem.  Its the tonics/stash items.

 

All tonics and stash items should be locked during pvp.  


Old Red Dead had PIB.  And you had to earn and only use it when needed.  Worked great like that.  

 

Yup. RDR 1 had PIB but no special help in form of tonics so you can spam it.

 

If you want PIB, kill players without it cowboy.

 

Agree 100%.

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