The Collector General Thread

[GEИESIS]

38 minutes ago, kittyuniverse said:

I, for one, am unbelievably poor and low in the role ranks, and so this comes as as bad news for me given that it was my only means of income.

There are other ways to make money then just Collector. Strangers missions are good start if you're really poor and can't invest into other roles. Legendary Bounties pay a lot too. Invest into Trader since that is also one the best money maker. If someone asks for help with sleeping good for trader help them since you get easy $300. If you're low on gold do Daily Challenges and keep up with streak doing 1 daily everyday, it's not hard.

[kittyuniverse]

16 minutes ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

????
LaClerk Missions
Stranger Missions
Hunting (Butcher)

Helping others
All say hello...

I've done all the story missions and they no longer make much money, I'm more of a casual player and as such don't grind stranger missions, hunting isn't possible due to the lack of animal spawns and by helping others I assume you mean other players which.. okay? I guess? It's still not great, to be fair. 

3 minutes ago, GEИESIS said:

There are other ways to make money then just Collector. Strangers missions are good start if you're really poor and can't invest into other roles. Legendary Bounties pay a lot too. Invest into Trader since that is also one the best money maker. If someone asks for help with sleeping good for trader help them since you get easy $300. If you're low on gold do Daily Challenges and keep up with streak doing 1 daily everyday, it's not hard.

This is what people tell me, and I am glad that they do, but in practice it doesn't work - for me, that is. I also really can't do any of these grinding daily challenges stuff due to a lack of time nor can I progress in the trader role due to the absence of animals. 

Edited December 18, 2019 by kittyuniverse

[CaliMeatWagon]

1 minute ago, kittyuniverse said:

I've done all the story missions and they no longer make much money, I'm more of a casual player and as such don't grind stranger missions, hunting isn't possible due to the lack of animal spawns and by helping others I assume you mean other players which.. okay? I guess? It's still not great, to be fair. 

Well if all the other money options are not good enough for you, I guess your screwed. 

[kittyuniverse]

Just now, CaliMeatWagon said:

Well if all the other money options are not good enough for you, I guess your screwed. 

I guess I am, but you should at least understand this isn't a result of being 'picky' or not finding things 'good enough'. I simply don't have enough time for a lot of it, but sorry for pissing you off.

[CaliMeatWagon]

9 minutes ago, kittyuniverse said:

I guess I am, but you should at least understand this isn't a result of being 'picky' or not finding things 'good enough'. I simply don't have enough time for a lot of it, but sorry for pissing you off.

You may just have to accept that you will not get to experience everything immediately as it comes out.. 
When devs design progression they have to keep in mind how people will play their game. Most people who play seem to have the time to progress. You, by your own claims, don't. If they cater to those like you, who don't, then everybody else will be left twiddling there thumbs with nothing left to progress towards as they blew through it so fast. 

I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. My job is gaming so I often have to deal with the lack of depth and progression. But I am capable of acknowledging and accepting that I'm on the fringe. As are you. 

 

Also, when did you piss me off? 

Edited December 18, 2019 by CaliMeatWagon

[kittyuniverse]

11 minutes ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

You may just have to accept that you will not get to experience everything immediately as it comes out.. 
When devs design progression they have to keep in mind how people will play their game. Most people who play seem to have the time to progress. You, by your own claims, don't. If they cater to those like you, who don't, then everybody else will be left twiddling there thumbs with nothing left to progress towards as they blew through it so fast. 

I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. My job is gaming so I often have to deal with the lack of depth and progression. But I am capable of acknowledging and accepting that I'm on the fringe. As are you. 

 

Also, when did you piss me off? 

You just seemed angry. I am extraordinarily bad at reading people on the internet.

[CMCSAVAGE]

2 hours ago, kittyuniverse said:

 so this comes as as bad news for me given that it was my only means of income.

Collect Away. Problem solved...

 

https://jeanropke.github.io/RDR2CollectorsMap/

[Jason]

The most up to date theory,  I think, is that:

 

• Each set has it's own cycle
• Each Wild Flower has it's own cycle
• Not every set may be able to collected in it's entirety on any given day
• There's maybe 10-20% of the random item metal detector spots on the map than there was pre-update

Overall it's still going to be really good money and probably the best money in the game but it's burst potential for money making got nerfed hard. People who still have a huge stockpile of duplicate collectables will not be hit by the nerf all that much until they drain their stockpile.

[Pocket Fox]

$95,500 

 

I think I can survive a wee drop in the performance of collector.

 

Beats what I've been doing for the past 12 months to make money... killing the same friggin cougar over and over and over and over and over and over.

[CaliMeatWagon]

5 hours ago, Pocket Fox said:

$95,500 

 

I think I can survive a wee drop in the performance of collector.

 

Beats what I've been doing for the past 12 months to make money... killing the same friggin cougar over and over and over and over and over and over.

I mean, nobody said you had to grind this game, nor buy every item. This isn't GTA. 
LS might be the land of excess, but the Wild West isn't. It's supposed to be the land of hardship and struggle. Buying only what you need to survive, everything else is wasteful. 

Edited December 19, 2019 by CaliMeatWagon

[Ronin Ogami]

On 12/17/2019 at 10:44 AM, Zerdical said:

rockstar treats pc players like roaches. he have to wait a year for their ports that are lazy and rushed. i understand a 1060 is not exactly high end graphics but on console settings i should expect at least 80 fps. they also implement next to no anti cheat in online and overall give no f*cks about us. what a joke

& within 2 weeks TONS of mods/trainers/hacks were released. It's that kind of scum that gives PC users a foul name.

[1898]

1 hour ago, Ronin Ogami said:

& within 2 weeks TONS of mods/trainers/hacks were released. It's that kind of scum that gives PC users a foul name.

It was also PC users that ruined RDR1 OL for PS4 and Xbox. Probably the same bunch, I think that's the only reason they buy video games.

Edited December 19, 2019 by 1898

[boomboom5950]

1 minute ago, 1898 said:

It was also PC users that ruined RDR1 OL for PS4 and Xbox. Probably the same bunch, I think that's the only reason they buy video games.

what? what is rdr1 ol for ps4 and Xbox? 

[1898]

Just now, Zerdical said:

what? what is rdr1 ol for ps4 and Xbox? 

Typo. I meant PS3 and Xbox.

 

[boomboom5950]

1 minute ago, 1898 said:

Typo. I meant PS3 and Xbox.

 

if you are talking about modding online, every old game is riddled with modders due to a lack of support from the Devs. maybe if rockstar made a functional anti cheat like literally every other game developer this wouldn't be a problem. they don't care and it shows, if it is just a community issue i 100% guarantee if a console was not a locked ecosystem then you would see modders on console. 

[Ronin Ogami]

22 hours ago, Zerdical said:

if you are talking about modding online, every old game is riddled with modders due to a lack of support from the Devs. maybe if rockstar made a functional anti cheat like literally every other game developer this wouldn't be a problem. they don't care and it shows, if it is just a community issue i 100% guarantee if a console was not a locked ecosystem then you would see modders on console. 

I'm GLAD console is a "locked ecosystem". We don't really NEED mods & need cheats & hacks even LESS.  That & you know that everyone is playing within much the same system specs range (evn with PS4/PS4 pro & XB!/XB1X) 

[boomboom5950]

59 minutes ago, Ronin Ogami said:

I'm GLAD console is a "locked ecosystem". We don't really NEED mods & need cheats & hacks even LESS.  That & you know that everyone is playing within much the same system specs range (evn with PS4/PS4 pro & XB!/XB1X) 

yes and that's great and all but when having a locked ecosystem means overpriced games, paying for online access, poor ecosystem, locked to controllers only etc. it's not enjoyable. not to mention that a pc is a computer. a workstation and a "play"station

[Ronin Ogami]

29 minutes ago, Zerdical said:

yes and that's great and all but when having a locked ecosystem means overpriced games, paying for online access, poor ecosystem, locked to controllers only etc. it's not enjoyable. not to mention that a pc is a computer. a workstation and a "play"station

Don't get me wrong, I spent many years as a PC gamer. My preference is console. PC is also far more expensive to assemble to run games at their "optimum settings" & keeping up with the tech demand is ridiculous. Plus my wife & kids also game. I'm not rich. Also there's far more account theft than there was when I was playing on PC & ,my wife's been the victim of such, before we were even a couple. I'll take the trade off. With a smile on my face. & I don't really mind paying for online access when I don't have to worry about the crap I don't want to see or deal with. & some PC titles have the wait time for the same console releases. To each their own I guess?

[CaliMeatWagon]

1 hour ago, Zerdical said:

yes and that's great and all but when having a locked ecosystem means overpriced games, paying for online access, poor ecosystem, locked to controllers only etc. it's not enjoyable. not to mention that a pc is a computer. a workstation and a "play"station

A couple things are false there. With the XB1 you can play using a Controller, Flight Stick, Steering Wheel, and Keyboard and Mouse. If you are playing with XCloud, you can use any Bluetooth controller, including, but not limited to the Dualshock 4 and Aftermarket JoyCons.
As for overpriced, that's subjective. Especially considering that in the US games have been $60, despite inflation, despite game size increases, despite depth of mechanics increases. 
Also, things like Xbox Games Pass Ultimate make it to where for a small monthly fee you can get to play brand new games without paying anything extra. And you get a discount on hundreds of games, plus you get 4-5 free games every month. Not really paying for "just online access". 
Poor ecosystem is again, subjective. As is "not enjoyable". These are not facts, but, just like, your opinion, man...

And this whole "I can work on my PC", is a non arguement, most people only watch pr0n and play video games with their PC, and I can do that with my Xbox. 

 

Edited December 20, 2019 by CaliMeatWagon

[Ronin Ogami]

17 minutes ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

A couple things are false there. With the XB1 you can play using a Controller, Flight Stick, Steering Wheel, and Keyboard and Mouse. If you are playing with XCloud, you can use any Bluetooth controller, including, but not limited to the Dualshock 4 and Aftermarket JoyCons.
As for overpriced, that's subjective. Especially considering that in the US games have been $60, despite inflation, despite game size increases, despite depth of mechanics increases. 
Also, things like Xbox Games Pass Ultimate make it to where for a small monthly fee you can get to play brand new games without paying anything extra. And you get a discount on hundreds of games, plus you get 4-5 free games every month. Not really paying for "just online access". 
Poor ecosystem is again, subjective. As is "not enjoyable". These are not facts, but, just like, your opinion, man...

And this whole "I can work on my PC", is a non arguement, most people only watch pr0n and play video games with their PC, and I can do that with my Xbox. 

 

Consoles have come quite far in the last two generations.

[boomboom5950]

57 minutes ago, Ronin Ogami said:

Don't get me wrong, I spent many years as a PC gamer. My preference is console. PC is also far more expensive to assemble to run games at their "optimum settings" & keeping up with the tech demand is ridiculous. Plus my wife & kids also game. I'm not rich. Also there's far more account theft than there was when I was playing on PC & ,my wife's been the victim of such, before we were even a couple. I'll take the trade off. With a smile on my face. & I don't really mind paying for online access when I don't have to worry about the crap I don't want to see or deal with. & some PC titles have the wait time for the same console releases. To each their own I guess?

building a pc for the whole console generation will cost alot up front, but will end up costing about the same if not cheaper in the end. and while yes you can get your account stolen, this is not an issue unless you literally install keylogger viruses on your pc. 

 

16 minutes ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

A couple things are false there. With the XB1 you can play using a Controller, Flight Stick, Steering Wheel, and Keyboard and Mouse. If you are playing with XCloud, you can use any Bluetooth controller, including, but not limited to the Dualshock 4 and Aftermarket JoyCons.
As for overpriced, that's subjective. Especially considering that in the US games have been $60, despite inflation, despite game size increases, despite depth of mechanics increases. 
Also, things like Xbox Games Pass Ultimate make it to where for a small monthly fee you can get to play brand new games without paying anything extra. And you get a discount on hundreds of games, plus you get 4-5 free games every month. Not really paying for "just online access". 
Poor ecosystem is again, subjective. As is "not enjoyable". These are not facts, but, just like, your opinion, man...

And this whole "I can work on my PC", is a non arguement, most people only watch pr0n and play video games with their PC, and I can do that with my Xbox. 

 

not every console game supports keyboard and mouse as far as i know, and about the games it's cheaper on pc generally due to competition + an open marketplace. this is good for the consumer. also pc has insane amounts of free games again due to competition, (epic games store) and worst of all has to be the lag and framerate on red dead online and gta online specifically on consoles. 

 

overall i do agree that consoles are getting better and everyone has their own needs and wants, for some it might be simplicity, raw performance or a strict budget. for some that may fall under a console and some may fall under a pc. 

[Bakkerbaard]

On 12/18/2019 at 4:35 PM, CMCSAVAGE said:

Collect Away. Problem solved...

 

https://jeanropke.github.io/RDR2CollectorsMap/

Is Jean Ropke's map up to date again?

[boomboom5950]

1 hour ago, Bakkerbaard said:

Is Jean Ropke's map up to date again?

yep. i sold every collection today using this map. although the American wild flowers is a bit broken but everything else works like a dream

[drizzi_b]

14 hours ago, Zerdical said:

yep. i sold every collection today using this map. although the American wild flowers is a bit broken but everything else works like a dream

Can you confirm you picked up the Ebony Hairpin at it's location today? The last two times this set for the Heirlooms came up, it will not show up for me..

[boomboom5950]

3 hours ago, drizzi_b said:

Can you confirm you picked up the Ebony Hairpin at it's location today? The last two times this set for the Heirlooms came up, it will not show up for me..

i got it yesterday.

[drizzi_b]

21 minutes ago, Zerdical said:

i got it yesterday.

Yeah I did too but the one for the cycle up to 45 minutes ago isn't showing up, and didn't the other day too..

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

[Stupidis]

On 12/19/2019 at 6:41 AM, CaliMeatWagon said:

I mean, nobody said you had to grind this game, nor buy every item. This isn't GTA. 
LS might be the land of excess, but the Wild West isn't. It's supposed to be the land of hardship and struggle. Buying only what you need to survive, everything else is wasteful. 

 

There isn't that much to buy either. Unlike GTA where you maybe switch vehicles like you switch underwear I assume that most players stick to whatever horse they currently have. 

[CaliMeatWagon]

Just now, Stupidis said:

 

There isn't that much to buy either. Unlike GTA where you maybe switch vehicles like you switch underwear I assume that most players stick to whatever horse they currently have. 

My RD:O character has been wearing the same britches since last December...

[Tez2]

Okay, so there are 6 locations for each collectible, unlike the previous spawn locations.

However, there are some rare sets with more than 6 locations.

Eagle Egg & Hawk Egg have 12 locations, and each wild flower have more than 15 locations + they have their own timing/cycle.

There are some new changes here but the most interesting one is that the locations appear to be timed rather than cycles.

Spawn rates decreased too, not much collectibles in the world like the previous update, but it depends on the timing/cycle too.