i was banned permanently for no reason

[1.6.5.]

i was playing with modders so i got a 1 month ban or something. so when that ban ended i had to make a new characte and that was fine. but then when i tried to play gta online like 2 weeks after that i had a permanent ban, and i dont know why but i really want to play gta online and i didn't do anything on the new account/ character.

and i really regret playing with modders because i knew it was wrong.   and sorry for my bad grammar haha

[Taterman]

Maybe try RDD?

 

 

[1.6.5.]

RDD?

 

[Taterman]

5 minutes ago, 1.6.5. said:

RDD?

 

RDR

 

Oops, I meant RDR.

 

Edited September 8, 2019 by Taterman

[1.6.5.]

thats not even gta?

[Taterman]

3 minutes ago, 1.6.5. said:

thats not even gta?

Well if you're banned then...

 

 

[REXX]

Being temporarily banned puts you on their naughty list. A lot of people that got temporarily banned eventually got permanently banned for no reason due to their unstable banning system.

 

But y'know; playing with modders in the first place makes you your own worst enemy. It was bound to happen eventually

[1.6.5.]

yes i know im very retarded but i really regret it

[kenmy13999]

1 hour ago, Taterman said:

RDR

 

Oops, I meant RDR.

 

He most likely play on pc and don't think RDR is on pc yet 

[jargonaut]

This topic will probably get locked or at least moved soon, but I just wanted to say this to OP and any possible future "banned for nothing" posters: you can only get banned for nothing if you do absolutely nothing, meaning you simply don't play the game and still get banned. What I mean by this is that your second ban has SOME reason, either something you did but don't confess OR something wrong with R* ban system. And we will never know, because for some reason it's extremely rare to see a post like this that actually lists the things that they did so we can get at least some information on what you did or did not do, and perhaps one day find out that there is, in fact, something wrong with the banning algorithms. 

 

An example list of things that would be nice to know:

-Have you ever installed a menu on your system (that you still have or you think you have uninstalled properly, but didn't do a 100% clean installation in between bans)?

-Did anyone drop any money on you or alter your stats in any way this time around?

-Did anyone teleport you around?

-Did you sit in a modder's/modded vehicle?

-Did you do missions with modders who did "weird sh*t" during the job?

-Did you do duping glitches?

-Did you glitch finales?

-Did you use wall breaches?

-Did you do immortality glitches?

-Did you do other glitches of any kind?

-Now that the naughty list is quite covered, what did you do?

-What properties, vehicles, items and such did you buy? 

-What game modes did you play?

-Did you use some legit way of grinding RP and/or money fast?

-What were your top 3 activities you did in the game this time around?

-Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

Cause unless you actually describe what you did or did not do, the more likely explanation for your second ban is that you did some if not all of the above compared to you doing "nothing".

 

Edited September 8, 2019 by jargonaut

[1.6.5.]

when i made a new character after the first ban i didn't do any of the things you just said 

[whywontyoulisten]

3 minutes ago, 1.6.5. said:

when i made a new character after the first ban i didn't do any of the things you just said 

What do you mean by "Made a new character"? Are you using the same account and/or key?

[Sanches]

That's on crazy Rockstar anticheat.

[1.6.5.]

yes i made a new character because my old one was gone

 

[kenmy13999]

48 minutes ago, jargonaut said:

, and perhaps one day find out that there is, in fact, something wrong with the banning algorithms. 

 

Hasn't this been established numerous times already? 

[jargonaut]

7 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

Hasn't this been established numerous times already? 

I only know of the couple of instances when they made changes to algorithms, some wrong bans occurred, and they were - at least mostly - fixed. I don't know for a fact that there is some existent error with them that has been causing unfair bans day in, day out for years. Please do share info if you have any. 

[kenmy13999]

2 minutes ago, jargonaut said:

I only know of the couple of instances when they made changes to algorithms, some wrong bans occurred, and they were - at least mostly - fixed. I don't know for a fact that there is some existent error with them that has been causing unfair bans day in, day out for years. Please do share info if you have any. 

Seen several reports of relatively trusted members on this forum. Just that a lot of people run around with different mod menus online without getting banned and legit people getting banned says there's something wrong.. 

[jargonaut]

1 minute ago, kenmy13999 said:

Seen several reports of relatively trusted members on this forum. Just that a lot of people run around with different mod menus online without getting banned and legit people getting banned says there's something wrong.. 

And if you re-read my first comment on this post, that's what we should be trying finding out. We need information, details - not some "banned for nothing lmao R* is sh*t" posts. 

[Mokuakae]

No reason? Yeah OK! Extremely unlikely.

[kenmy13999]

1 hour ago, jargonaut said:

And if you re-read my first comment on this post, that's what we should be trying finding out. We need information, details - not some "banned for nothing lmao R* is sh*t" posts. 

I don't need to re-read anything because it's been debunked here a long time ago that there's something wrong.. 

I'm not saying everyone that say they haven't done anything wrong is innocent but innocent people have been banned several times.. R* might have reverted some bans but not all of them. 

And btw the trustworthy people here haven't just made some "banned for nothing lmao R* is sh*t" posts.. But start whatever investigation you want, I won't stand in your way

[PetrolCB]

5 hours ago, 1.6.5. said:

yes i know im very retarded but i really regret it

[1.6.5.]

hahahahahah

[Gaffa]

Well there's no "sh*t list" whereby if you were banned once, you're always going to be on some "watch list" or anything. Rockstar had done hardware ID bans in the past and again a bit more recently but they're generally very isolated cases with specific reasoning behind it. 

 

The interesting thing about people claiming not to have done anything is that there's literally a scheme setup to reward people ($10,000) if they can prove that - here. Nobody's had a payout yet, so I guess nobody is able to prove that there's something wrong with their detection system(s) - also known as - they got banned for nothing. If there's a Rockstar Games employee / staff in the session keeping an eye on things, the decision may be taken to discipline any and all individuals who are soliciting mods or cash or whatever, so really the best option is to jump ship (Find New Session) when anything starts happening. 

 

The reason why there's plenty of cheaters running about just fine that don't worry about getting banned is down to those cheats / menus / whatever doing the relevant 'patches' to the anti-cheat, effectively creating an anti anti-cheat so that the detection systems don't even work, or whatever. 

[kenmy13999]

9 minutes ago, Gaffa said:

 

 

The interesting thing about people claiming not to have done anything is that there's literally a scheme setup to reward people ($10,000) if they can prove that - here. Nobody's had a payout yet, so I guess nobody is able to prove that there's something wrong with their detection system(s) - also known as - they got banned for nothing. 

Wouldn't the people that got their ban reverted qualify for that? 

 

[TCA]

Whatever happened that lead you to being banned and reset is they did something to or for you, Which the system caught it and auto banned you. From your original post you simply only say "You were playing with modders" yet you don't mention ANYTHING that went on while you were playing with them and what "they" were doing. It's hilarious that when players mention them playing with these types of players and end up banned, they always say "I got banned for no reason." Sorry, you knew what you were doing and got punished for it. As for you having to start from scratch? welcome to their new policy. What did you do to receive a permanent ban? you don't mention that either. Now I know there are players that got banned for absolutely no reason at all, which some of them are members here. To me your situation sounds off as you're not really telling what exactly happened. But in any case there isn't much we can do for you, as you should actually contact Rockstar Support.

 

Best of Luck. 

Edited September 8, 2019 by TCA

[Gaffa]

26 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

Wouldn't the people that got their ban reverted qualify for that? 

 

In theory yeah, but remember that it needs to be a reproducible ban so that it can be tested and the claim verified. 

[Spider-Vice]

58 minutes ago, Gaffa said:

Nobody's had a payout yet

That program is completely private, if you read the description (last paragraph) nothing will be listed or disclosed in that main page so we don't know whether there have been payouts or not, unless you're a part of the "VIP" page.

 

The "However, we have yet to find any evidence to support these claims." quote is from last year and they haven't edited the post so...

[kenmy13999]

43 minutes ago, Gaffa said:

In theory yeah, but remember that it needs to be a reproducible ban so that it can be tested and the claim verified. 

Can it really be much more verified than R* lifting a ban with how their banning policy is? 

[Gaffa]

People haven't been able to prove it on any level - official or unofficial, privately or public - it'd seem. Or maybe I'm unaware of such things, but I've heard several times at different points over several years now, of mod menus showing the entire list of online players as 'modders' and supposedly the "modder detection" those menus use is essentially the same as what Rockstar use, but there isn't lobby-wide sessions of players being banned. 

 

By verification, they would mean that they would do everything that the banned player does, exactly how they do it which might include the requirement of contacting support to reverse the ban, and maybe this would work as a way to verify the claim. There's also the conspiratorial factor which is "they wouldn't pay out even if they could find a worthwhile claim" seeing as that's how some companies operate in this crazy world. 

Indeed, I had a ban lifted back in 2015 after returning from a vacation to find my account had been used and amassed some crazy numbers, but I guess things are probably a bit different now with their whole approach to any sort of appeal procedure? 

 

Either way, how much further can a thread like this go on these forums? They tend to not go anywhere unless there's a huge influx of other people reporting the same which would of course *suggest* the false positive(s) in their systems.  

[kenmy13999]

1 hour ago, Gaffa said:

. There's also the conspiratorial factor which is "they wouldn't pay out even if they could find a worthwhile claim" seeing as that's how some companies operate in this crazy world. 

 

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you've been trying to say but why use this site as an argument that no one had been able to prove a false ban if it's basically impossible to prove it in the first place?