MC Business Coke Re-supply

[CappyRoman]

Couldn't find this anywhere,  my question is around buying supplies for the Coke business.  My understanding is that 1.5 bars of product is the max for a 1 vehicle sell mission.

However, buying supplies for $75k always gives me 2 bars of product, and thus, always gives me 2 vehicle sell missions. 

Is there a way to buy supplies to get a 1 vehicle sell mission?

[Aznknight]

Steal three times. That should always give you 1 vehicle. 

If you calculate time to money ratio though, buying one round will always net you more. Why? For the simple fact that your only work is to sell and thus drive two vehicles. 

Boats will take roughly 7-8 min

Planes 12-15

Trash 15-20

Motorcycles 10-12

Chopper 10-12

Vans 25-30

 

Even with those times if you do three steal missions you would still take the same amount as any of the sell missions, sans vans. Plus, you still have to do one sell mission.

 

 

 

 

[CappyRoman]

So if I understand correctly,  there is no way to purchase supplies and only get one vehicle.

However, the recommendation is to just do the 2 vehicle missions, because doing 3 steal missions and the associated sell mission, takes longer than buying supplies and doing one 2 vehicle sell mission

[SummerFreeze]

Cocaine is easy to time, because a fully upgraded business will complete 0.5 bars every 30 minutes.

 

So if you buy supplies simply return to your business 90-119 minutes after purchase, or 60-89 minutes if there already is half a bar.

 

That is of course easier if you have a spawn location next to your business or a high-end apartment with heist invite, say Del Perro Heights and the Morningwood cocaine lockup. You can also check the progress at your MC clubhouse. (1.5 bars will fill up just to under the L in Stock Level.)

 

25 minutes ago, Aznknight said:

Steal three times. That should always give you 1 vehicle.

Completing a steal mission solo will give you 1 or 2 bars, depending on if you have to return a vehicle (2 bars) or deliver a bag or something on your own vehicle (1 bar). A fully upgraded cocaine business will produce 1.5 bars of product from 4 bars of supplies.

 

25 minutes ago, Aznknight said:

If you calculate time to money ratio though, buying one round will always net you more. Why? For the simple fact that your only work is to sell and thus drive two vehicles.

It's better to buy supplies and drive 2 vehicles than doing the steal missions and drive 1 vehicle, yes, but timing your production to buy supplies and drive 1 vehicle is better still.

 

Driving 2 vehicles to make $168k - $75k = $93k profit is not that great in terms of $/time. It's better to sell a full lockup then even if you have to restart the vans mission.

Edited September 4, 2019 by SummerFreeze

[Aznknight]

32 minutes ago, CappyRoman said:

So if I understand correctly,  there is no way to purchase supplies and only get one vehicle.

However, the recommendation is to just do the 2 vehicle missions, because doing 3 steal missions and the associated sell mission, takes longer than buying supplies and doing one 2 vehicle sell mission

Just like the guy above me said, you have to time it. But that takes some coordination which most of us do not know how to do lol.

 

 

32 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

...but timing your production to buy supplies and drive 1 vehicle is better still.

 

Driving 2 vehicles to make $168k - $75k = $93k profit is not that great in terms of $/time. It's better to sell a full lockup then even if you have to restart the vans mission.

Yes to the last paragraph and no way to the first.

 

I'm semi moronic, a buffoon almost. There is no way in hell I can coordinate that one buy then 1 veh sell timing.

[DPRK]

5 hours ago, CappyRoman said:

Couldn't find this anywhere,  my question is around buying supplies for the Coke business.  My understanding is that 1.5 bars of product is the max for a 1 vehicle sell mission.

However, buying supplies for $75k always gives me 2 bars of product, and thus, always gives me 2 vehicle sell missions. 

Is there a way to buy supplies to get a 1 vehicle sell mission?

life doesn't stop and start at your convenience

[CaliMeatWagon]

26 minutes ago, DPRK said:

life doesn't stop and start at your convenience

Do you need a hug?

[CappyRoman]

5 hours ago, DPRK said:

life doesn't stop and start at your convenience

to quote a forum member:

I thought this was supposed to be an online forum where people with genuine questions can come and get some actual answers?

[DPRK]

On 9/4/2019 at 9:30 PM, CappyRoman said:

to quote a forum member:

I thought this was supposed to be an online forum where people with genuine questions can come and get some actual answers?

oh, so some people DO actually read my posts. Well that's good to know, and now I'm eating crow, but okay I made a smartass reply one of a few times. That makes me worse than a lot of the other people on here right?

[CaliMeatWagon]

1 hour ago, DPRK said:

oh, so some people DO actually read my posts. Well that's good to know, and now I'm eating crow, but okay I made a smartass reply one of a few times. That makes me worse than a lot of the other people on here right?

Yes, yes it does...

[LostReacher]

Just max it out and wait for double. Then get a very very good friend to help you sell.

Interesting strategy for getting strangers to help you resupply is do a doomsday heist setup as an MC president.

 

If people join your setup they will be in your MC after the session. Then you can start a resupply using a terrobyte, and there is a good chance they will help you do it.

 

If they do it then then you know they are ready and good enough to do anyul sale you have ready

[CaliMeatWagon]

On 9/4/2019 at 8:38 AM, CappyRoman said:

Couldn't find this anywhere,  my question is around buying supplies for the Coke business.  My understanding is that 1.5 bars of product is the max for a 1 vehicle sell mission.

However, buying supplies for $75k always gives me 2 bars of product, and thus, always gives me 2 vehicle sell missions. 

Is there a way to buy supplies to get a 1 vehicle sell mission?

The only business that is a single vehicle for a single purchase of supplies is the bunker. This is why I don't do biker businesses anymore. The missions suck, it's impossible to purchase a single vehicle, and the pay per minute (for actually activity) isn't that great comparing it to all other business types. 

[Talisman_83]

To OP:

 

I'd recommend just buying supplies until your coke business is full, rather than worry about having to buy x number of supplies to get 1 vehicle (or even worse, do the resupply missions, which are a waste of time and money imo)

The only sell mission which is nigh impossible to do solo is post op vans.

Though, I can only vouch for the Morningwood coke factory location, delivering to Blaine County.

[tom_c2012]

Well, my own observations have lead me to think that it is dollar amount driven and perhaps a little bit of RNG. Weed and counterfeit seem to split into double vehicle deliveries after $50K of value, and coke and meth at about $100K. Weed and counterfeit over $100K tend to get you 3 vehicles. I've seen coke go to 3 vehicles but I don't usually let it get over $150K in order to avoid it. 

 

That said, myself and 2 other players were delivering coke and it was just about $150K. I expected 2 vehicles, but thought since there were 3 of us it might split across 3 vehicles. But it gave us 4. So I am thinking it is driven by how many are in the club, and at $150K you get one more vehicle than there are players. Because I know I have never seen coke split into 4 vehicles around that dollar amount (if ever).

Also, I think the supply amounts you get from stealing or buying changes with each update in order to better balance things. I can remember a time when stealing supplies only got you about 10% supplies, and if you bought supplies it would get you 25%. But these days, supplying is not so demanding. Buying supplies for $75K will get you well over 50% full. Also in the bunker business it doesn't take anywhere near as much time or $$ to get enough supplies in the bunker to turn a decent profit. 

Also, when you resupply with multiple people in the MC, I think it may give you a little more. Not sure it is double (for 2) or triple (for 3) but I think it may scale based on number of players in order to promote co-op play. 

Again, just my own observations. 

Also, I personally made some really bad choices when buying my businesses, and I put my coke and weed in horrible places (paleto bay). As a result, I spend way too much time travelling that far to resupply, and if I get a delivery split into 3 it is not possible. My meth and counterfeit are in the desert near the cent of the map, so if I get a split into 3 there is at least a chance. Also, delivering to Los Santos from the middle of the map means less time to deliver which means less exposure to other players and greater $$$/hr.  

[Rotorhead359]

5 hours ago, LostReacher said:

Just max it out and wait for double. Then get a very very good friend to help you sell.

Interesting strategy for getting strangers to help you resupply is do a doomsday heist setup as an MC president.

 

If people join your setup they will be in your MC after the session. Then you can start a resupply using a terrobyte, and there is a good chance they will help you do it.

 

If they do it then then you know they are ready and good enough to do anyul sale you have ready

Have you actually tested this? I think some people will not take kindly to this. Most people who accept random doomsday invites just want to play the doomsday heist and don't feel like breaking away from DDH to resupply a business (which you could do just fine without said random). You might end up with some troll who will blow up your supplies with his mk2 and then abandon the MC. If they do well on the setup, why don't you just ask them to sell when you're done?

Edited September 6, 2019 by AirWolf359

[ventogt]

On 9/4/2019 at 5:13 PM, CaliMeatWagon said:

Do you need a hug?

This is a funny quote from the Big Lebowski: 

 

[SummerFreeze]

2 hours ago, tom_c2012 said:

Well, my own observations have lead me to think that it is dollar amount driven and perhaps a little bit of RNG. Weed and counterfeit seem to split into double vehicle deliveries after $50K of value, and coke and meth at about $100K. Weed and counterfeit over $100K tend to get you 3 vehicles. I've seen coke go to 3 vehicles but I don't usually let it get over $150K in order to avoid it.

It's based on the amount of product you sell.

 

For the coke business, you get 1 vehicle at 1.5 bars max, 2 vehicles (or 1 Gang Burrito) at 2.5 bars max, and 3 vehicles (or 1 Pounder, or 4 motorcycles) at 5 bars.

 

For other businesses the thresholds are usually 1.25, 2.5 and 5. (There is also a threshold for 3 motorcycles; probably at 3.75 but I'm not sure.)

 

By the way, with the weed business you can also get a special variant for the single vehicle (Rat-Truck, Gang Burrito, Pounder) sell mission where you have to DUI. These are easy because you drink 3 beers before entering the vehicle and only get the visual impairment. So if you sell a full weed business solo you actually have 25% chance of getting 1 sell vehicle. From the Downtown Vinewood weed farm the sell locations are only a 3-minute drive away. So IMO in terms of solo use and money/time that location is actually the 2nd best MC business provided you restart sell missions.

 

If you have helpers inside the business when you start a MC sale, you also get the chance for 3 very fast missions where you carry duffel bags, even if you only have 1 helper and stock is full. That's when MC businesses become much more worthwhile, because you could do your sale and a friend's sale in like 10 minutes and also earn an extra $30k. But friends don't let friends drive Post-OP vans so you need to agree to restart bad sell missions.

Edited September 6, 2019 by SummerFreeze

[LostReacher]

6 hours ago, AirWolf359 said:

Have you actually tested this? I think some people will not take kindly to this. Most people who accept random doomsday invites just want to play the doomsday heist and don't feel like breaking away from DDH to resupply a business (which you could do just fine without said random). You might end up with some troll who will blow up your supplies with his mk2 and then abandon the MC. If they do well on the setup, why don't you just ask them to sell when you're done?

Yeah this came from experience. They were happy to alternate between missions and resupply. 

 

Obviously doesnt work on everyone, and people get a big bonus for the sale too.