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rockstar won't do anything. as long as the old title is playable from beggining to end somehow they don't care
(except sa RGL which cant be even played if you save and load game :D ) 

 

you can only pray for some The Hero or Silent of IV modding, who would care enough and is talented enough to fix it

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6 hours ago, Sneed said:

rockstar won't do anything. as long as the old title is playable from beggining to end somehow they don't care
(except sa RGL which cant be even played if you save and load game :D ) 

 

you can only pray for some The Hero or Silent of IV modding, who would care enough and is talented enough to fix it

I'm not talking about an update for GTA 4, I'm talking about an update for this mod. I mean, there's a lot to be done to restore the beautiful details from the console versions broken or just not present on PC and hopefully make the game more optimized. Just look at videos from @Worick in the previous pages.

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22 minutes ago, Panzermann11 said:

I'm not talking about an update for GTA 4, I'm talking about an update for this mod. There's a lot to be done to make the PC version like the console version.

Would love to see some features ported to pc from consoles though.

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3 hours ago, Panzermann11 said:

I'm not talking about an update for GTA 4, I'm talking about an update for this mod. I mean, there's a lot to be done to restore the beautiful details from the console versions broken or just not present on PC. Just look at videos from @Worick in the previous pages.

ye and i also said it would need some talented willing modders to do so

 

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1 minute ago, Sneed said:

ye and i also said it would need some talented willing modders to do so

 

Well then...

 

@Silent, GET OVER HERE!

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Any chance on incorporating the fixes from ZolikaPatch? (Specifically the fix for the shadows in the Algonquin-Alderney booth tunnel)

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3 hours ago, Panzermann11 said:

Well then...

 

@Silent, GET OVER HERE!

Already stated they're not going to touch any RAGE games due to Take-Two's stance on modding.

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49 minutes ago, Ash_735 said:

Already stated they're not going to touch any RAGE games due to Take-Two's stance on modding.

It seems that they're only going after GTA Online and RDO modders. Then again it is Take-Two we're talking about so I wouldn't rule anything out.

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I am quite sure i have seen volumetric lighting already in the casino in PC version. Or is it something different?

 

And yes Zolika is also doing a great job.

 

What FusionFix urgently needs to include is a fix for the nasty AMD water bug! 

It's just one file. 

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4 hours ago, Motka said:

Any chance on incorporating the fixes from ZolikaPatch? (Specifically the fix for the shadows in the Algonquin-Alderney booth tunnel)

ball is in zolika's field

zolika doesnt want to share source for various reasons, such as code is messy or CE doesn't have MP, so f*ck CE.

 

  

59 minutes ago, GTAVI(CE) said:

What FusionFix urgently needs to include is a fix for the nasty AMD water bug! 

 

idk, i tried on one amd machine IV some times ago vanilla (two years ago?) and water bug wasnt there, altough i remember it being there few years ago.

 

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9 hours ago, Ash_735 said:

Already stated they're not going to touch any RAGE games due to Take-Two's stance on modding.

 

8 hours ago, Motka said:

It seems that they're only going after GTA Online and RDO modders. Then again it is Take-Two we're talking about so I wouldn't rule anything out.

This is why I'm starting to hate T2 already... Back then they took down OpenIV and it resulted in a lot of backlash to the point it was put back in.

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1 minute ago, Panzermann11 said:

 

This is why I'm starting to hate T2 already... Back then they took down OpenIV and it resulted in a lot of backlash to the point it was put back in.

I don't know why I said they were only going after GTAO and RDO modders when not even 2 years ago they harassed they guy who was making the RDR remaster mod.  

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Even many years later, GTA 4 is still in need of a huge repair in order to look good and play like the console version and we needed someone good like @Silent to do it justice. Without him, what are we going to do...?

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37 minutes ago, Panzermann11 said:

Even many years later, GTA 4 is still in need of a huge repair in order to look good and play like the console version and we needed someone good like @Silent to do it justice. Without him, what are we going to do...?

Is the PC version really missing major graphical features from console versions? I've played this on both 360 and PC for the past decade and I haven't really noticed anything different. Just a few minor things here and there. Is there a good comparison out there somewhere for me to see?

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7 hours ago, Motka said:

Is the PC version really missing major graphical features from console versions? I've played this on both 360 and PC for the past decade and I haven't really noticed anything different. Just a few minor things here and there. Is there a good comparison out there somewhere for me to see?

Yes, just check this out at libertycity.ru. As you can see, a lot of details and some gamplay features from the console version were either removed, broken or just straight up bastardized on PC. Some details were fixed in EFLC, however.

 

For example, when you look up in the sky during raining, rain droplets appears on screen. In console, it actually feels like it's raining on you, on PC however it just feels like mud is actually dropping on you because the droplets on screen are colored black for some reason and the fact there's much less rain visible on PC with the exception in EFLC.

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1 hour ago, Panzermann11 said:

Yes, just check this out at libertycity.ru. As you can see, a lot of details and some gamplay features from the console version were either removed, broken or just straight up bastardized on PC.

 

For example, when you look up in the sky during raining, rain droplets appears on screen. In console, it actually feels like it's raining on you, on PC however it just feels like mud is actually dropping on you because the droplets on screen are colored black for some reason and the fact there's much less rain visible on PC.

I see what you mean now.  It would be nice to be able to have these effects on PC but I have no clue how hard it'd be to convert 360 files to the PC file format.

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22 hours ago, Motka said:

I see what you mean now.  It would be nice to be able to have these effects on PC but I have no clue how hard it'd be to convert 360 files to the PC file format.

@nkjellman did it for his mod, so i believe it's not quite as hard as you think, you just have to figure out how to experiment with Xbox 360 game files. Besides, I'd suggest you ask @Silent or @The Hero to contribute, that would make FusionFix a whole lot better. Just tell him it'd be fine, Take-Two is just a bunch of huge dicks who would rather leave PC ports of great games broken instead of allowing people to improve upon them.

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Well Silent and The Hero we really need you. I am 100% sure Take 2 won't say anything to you guys if you are modding offline games.

Please reconsider.

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9 hours ago, Panzermann11 said:

@nkjellman did it for his mod, so i believe it's not quite as hard as you think, you just have to figure out how to experiment with Xbox 360 game files. Besides, I'd suggest you ask @Silent or @The Hero to contribute, that would make FusionFix a whole lot better. Just tell him it'd be fine, Take-Two is just a bunch of huge dicks who would rather leave PC ports of great games broken instead of allowing people to improve upon them.

I don't think there's really any point in asking them if they don't even mod IV to begin with.

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9 minutes ago, Motka said:

I don't think there's really any point in asking them if they don't even mod IV to begin with.

Still maybe you could ask them to try. GTA 4 doesn't get a lot of love in terms of modding when compared to the 3D universe games, San Andreas in particular. They did a great job in making 3D universe games look and play better like in the consoles, so they should be able to do GTA 4 justice too.

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9 hours ago, Panzermann11 said:

@nkjellman did it for his mod, so i believe it's not quite as hard as you think, you just have to figure out how to experiment with Xbox 360 game files

he only converted few textures.

there is also tool that converts world and weapon models to object that can 3ds max import, but you cannot import ped models, or vehicle models (afaik)

dat wise pc didnt recieve much changes, not related to those missing graphical effects at least

and i cant find any tool for regular mortal to play with shader files ;).

 

 

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None of them are interested in GTA 4 and it's been said already. Take your meds

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10 minutes ago, Jinx. said:

None of them are interested in GTA 4 and it's been said already. Take your meds

You just made me hopeless right now. I just want my volumetric lighting, HDR and water foam, dammit! All these amazing, beautiful details from the console couldn't possibly have gone to waste and forgotten by now...

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You can get them if you take your meds and learn to code bro

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12 minutes ago, Jinx. said:

You can get them if you take your meds and learn to code bro

You're right, maybe I should calm down, thank you very much. I have no expierence in coding, let alone for GTA. But I just wonder, if it's actually possible to restore the graphical features as said above? All hope's not lost... isn't it?

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10 minutes ago, Panzermann11 said:

You're right, maybe I should calm down, thank you very much. I have no expierence in coding, let alone for GTA. But I just wonder, if it's actually possible to restore the graphical features as said above? All hope's not lost... isn't it?

I'd say it's possible to re-add the foliage, suits and the rain effects. The hardest part would be the lighting effects.

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4 minutes ago, Motka said:

I'd say it's possible to re-add the foliage, suits and the rain effects. The hardest part would be the lighting effects.

What about the foam and HDR?

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Just now, Panzermann11 said:

What about the foam and HDR?

 

Don¬īt forget about better DOF and water reflections on console ;)

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22 hours ago, cyv233 said:

 

Don¬īt forget about better DOF and water reflections on console ;)

Pretty much possible. Still curious about the foam and HDR. Besides, I'm really excited for any updates that might come up, maybe they'll introduce a lot more fixes as adressed in GitHub.

 

On 1/31/2021 at 12:58 AM, Motka said:

Any chance on incorporating the fixes from ZolikaPatch? (Specifically the fix for the shadows in the Algonquin-Alderney booth tunnel)

On 1/31/2021 at 5:52 AM, Sneed said:

ball is in zolika's field

zolika doesnt want to share source for various reasons, such as code is messy or CE doesn't have MP, so f*ck CE.

The only way for sure is if we get Zolika on board... but other than that, I'm not sure if he's willing to contribute to this project. Judging by his mod, he seems like a type of guy who can get a lot of things fixed, like Silent.

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