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"Bonaire" & Australian Classification


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23 hours ago, Fetooh said:

Bonaire is Boner in french lol.

so either it's a RDR2 DLC(but they removed RDR2 billboard recently) ,or a completely new title. 

Maybe they removed it to make way for a DLC billboard 😅

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On 8/20/2019 at 7:56 AM, Mirror Park Resident said:

Bonaire is a Caribbean island.

 

So is Guarma in the RDR universe.

 

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Whatever they're doing, if it's tropical-related, I bet a lot of Guarma's objects will be recycled in it.

 

If it's RDRII related, maybe it's a standalone DLC like Undead Nightmare? DLC doesn't earn a lot of money compared to a new title. 

 

I wonder if it might be a post-story thing, maybe centering around Sadie Adler?

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4 hours ago, EVOLUT7ON said:

Cancelled

Well.... "mid-cancelled" or "abandoned". There isn't official cancelation (as far as I can remember), and the game still has a web page (although not updated: Coming soon..... XD)

 

https://www.rockstargames.com/agent/


I think that if something was done nothing will serve for a current development. They should start almost at the beginning.

 

By the way, my opinion about this "bonaire" is exact the same as said @LegacyKillaHD 

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Edward RDRIII

I'm thinking this "Bonaire" thing is related to RDR2 because of Guarma. Imagine if they expand Guarma into a big map, more or less the size of the Epilogue Map, full of things to do and explore... Oh my dear God!!!

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On 8/20/2019 at 7:39 AM, Emmi said:

So Ash has spoken back in 2017 that GTA VI won't be set in Miami. Makes me wonder why we still talk about Miami as the most likely setting then. Hm. For me this means won't be in Miami. Ash is trustworthy.

Not trustworthy at all. He lies about stuff.

 

On-topic: Bonaire is indeed a Caribbean island. It's specifically part of the Dutch Caribbean.

 

If this turns out to be something unrelated to RDR2 then color me surprised.

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On 8/20/2019 at 9:39 PM, Emmi said:

So Ash has spoken back in 2017 that GTA VI won't be set in Miami. Makes me wonder why we still talk about Miami as the most likely setting then. Hm. For me this means won't be in Miami. Ash is trustworthy.

He was most likely referring to locations listed in an internal spitball document, which at the time Vice City was not listed and was all that was known. I have said it before but will say it again, it was so long ago and so early on in production they could have easy changed there minds on locations; and most likely have. 

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On 8/20/2019 at 1:42 PM, deadasdisco said:

Codenames from Rockstar don't always indicate the obvious, just sayinn.... Especially when trying to get regulatory approval with high risk of leaking.

Sometimes they can, if I'm not mistaken. GTA IV's codename was Ice, presumably in reference to the importance of the diamonds throughout the story. Although I also remember hearing Michael Hollick said it was called freeze. Which isn't too different.

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2 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Sometimes they can, if I'm not mistaken. GTA IV's codename was Ice, presumably in reference to the importance of the diamonds throughout the story. Although I also remember hearing Michael Hollick said it was called freeze. Which isn't too different.

Oh wow thats cool haha! Didn't know that.

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2 minutes ago, deadasdisco said:

Oh wow thats cool haha! Didn't know that.

As with anything, it's just what I heard. The Ice part I'm sure is true, but the freeze part I'm not sure about. I only heard that once. Everything else was Ice. I'm sure you can link GTA V's 'Rush' to the heist theme, too. But I've never bothered to look into that much lol

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Does anyone know the time frames from getting a classification to being released from previous rockstar games?

I also presume the Austrialians must have played or watched whatever it is? 

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8 hours ago, The Shakermaker said:

Does anyone know the time frames from getting a classification to being released from previous rockstar games?

I also presume the Austrialians must have played or watched whatever it is? 

I can't speak for Rockstar titles, but generally most developers submit their games for classification 2/3 months before the intended release. Funny though, it's been a month since it was submitted and denied so there's no real way of knowing how far away it is.

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I can't imagine a classification board, like PEGI, ESRB, or Australia's ACB not having classification for DLCs that bring material changes to a game. That would mean video game content, which is suppose to be regulated either internally (ESRB, PEGI) or externally (ACB), would not be classified. Developers could release a tame game and release all the nasty sh*t that would normally get rated Adults Only or get Refused Classification as DLC lol.

 

ACB has every major RDR DLC listed... but I can't find DLC listed for GTA V 🤔

 

Also something interesting I noticed. GTA V for PC got rated by the ACB a whole three months after the game came out for PC... not sure how all this works

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15 hours ago, Jason Frost said:

Wasn't GTAV codenamed Rush or something like that?

It was.

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16 hours ago, sutalu said:

Well.... "mid-cancelled" or "abandoned". There isn't official cancelation (as far as I can remember), and the game still has a web page (although not updated: Coming soon..... XD)

 

https://www.rockstargames.com/agent/


I think that if something was done nothing will serve for a current development. They should start almost at the beginning.

 

By the way, my opinion about this "bonaire" is exact the same as said @LegacyKillaHD 

"Abandoned".
For 2009 that game would be perfect. But lots of different staff happened in the background of R* since that time. In 2019 it would feel old enough and not unique. Some concepts were introduced later in GTA Online tho.
I bet when you will be a grandpa, you will be able to see that title under "coming soon")))

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The Shakermaker

On the site for "Bonaire" classification it says "For further information regarding the reason for this decision, please contact us"

 

Maybe I should email the Australian classification board? 🤔

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1 hour ago, The Shakermaker said:

On the site for "Bonaire" classification it says "Reason

For further information regarding the reason for this decision, please contact us"

Maybe I should email the Australian classification board? 🤔

I think Kotaku already tried

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2 hours ago, GRANDHEIST said:

I think Kotaku already tried

Yeah I guess they would have. What about getting it via a freedom of information act request. Or do Austrialia not have that?

Maybe I'll just wait.

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Australia does have a form of FOIA. I don't know if that would apply to giving information on confidential corporate projects lol

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the process of classification begins roughly 3/2 months before a game's /Dlc release date. This classification has been submitted on July the 18th, skip 3 months and were almost near halloween. 

 

My guess its undead nightmare 2 releasing in October 

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On 8/25/2019 at 12:08 AM, LoneWolf260 said:

the process of classification begins roughly 3/2 months before a game's /Dlc release date. This classification has been submitted on July the 18th, skip 3 months and were almost near halloween. 

 

My guess its undead nightmare 2 releasing in October 

This would make sense as Bonaire is a carribean island - c.f zombie mythology, Haiti and so on. This could also mean that Sadie could be the protagonist (she implies that she will move abroad). But ... I personally think that undead stuff would be BORING. 

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On 8/25/2019 at 10:08 AM, LoneWolf260 said:

the process of classification begins roughly 3/2 months before a game's /Dlc release date. This classification has been submitted on July the 18th, skip 3 months and were almost near halloween. 

 

My guess its undead nightmare 2 releasing in October 

Could be right. The new Star Wars game was just rated in Australia, and releases in November

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RDR2 PC with Rockstar Editor confirmed :)

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3 hours ago, EVOLUT7ON said:

RDR2 PC with Rockstar Editor confirmed :)

Yeah, that seems to make more sense. This is probably it.

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On 8/21/2019 at 1:09 PM, cremefraiche said:

It can't be a gambling or microtransaction issue as GTA V and RDO both currently have microtransations, and GTA just added a literal casino which went off without a hitch in Aus. 

 

It's got to be some graphic scene or depiction removed, like when they banned the anal probe scene in the South Park game. 

 

Which also makes me think it's not related to Online, as it would be harder to justify censoring something that is already optional

That's what i'm thinking. There might be something that they don't want us to see. We do still have that one part in GTA 4 TLAD though which is rated MA15. GTA 5 is rated R18 here and if it has anything to do with RDR2 DLC then it should get the same rating. If it's a new game then they'll have to censor it like Manhunt 2, but that wouldn't stop the classification board from banning it.

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