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"Bonaire" & Australian Classification


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Just now, Emmi said:

NO. Tell me why the PC version would be banned when the console version isn't.

Cause Australia is dumb.

 

If the game is getting denied classification it means it's out fairly soon.

 

So, it isn't Bully 2.

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Maybe R* pulls an EA ... announcing the game, releasing a few months later? I know wishful thinking but heck, R* is weird at times.

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Anyway, Australia bans a lot of stuff in gaming and adverts. I was trying to figure out what restriction AC has but couldn't. It can be a random thing.

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18 minutes ago, Jason said:

Cause Australia is dumb.

 

If the game is getting denied classification it means it's out fairly soon.

 

So, it isn't Bully 2.

The current right-wing Australian government is retarded. 

 

But they're not gonna ban the same version of the same game. Otherwise R* would have just resent it for reclassification and pointed to the console version. 

 

This is definitely for something new. 

 

And just because it got a classification (or denied in this case) doesn't always mean it's coming soon. Modern Warfare 2 Remastered was rated by PEGI back in February and still has no sign of even being announced let alone released soon. 

 

While I don't think it's Bully 2. It honestly could be anything. 

 

 

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Speculating ban reasons:

- violence towards women (Sadie DLC?)

- increased gore (undead nightmare DLC?)

- drugs?

- gambling?

 

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HOW'S ANNIE?

Is there any possible way we can find out what Rockstar have possibly codenamed GTA O/RDR O expansions as for the classification board's review? My phone's browser isn't really liking the website at the moment.

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It's probably "just" RDR2 PC, hopefully though it's some big story mode dlc. I think it could be, otherwise why would the PC version be banned when the console version of the same game isn't??? Makes no sense to me.

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15 minutes ago, Emmi said:
 

It's probably "just" RDR2 PC, hopefully though it's some big story mode dlc. I think it could be, otherwise why would the PC version be banned when the console version of the same game isn't??? Makes no sense to me.

 

It's neither, it is most likely a new DLC for Red Dead Online

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1 minute ago, O.Z said:

It's neither, it is most likely a new DLC for Red Dead Online

That'd be the worst case scenario.

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7 hours ago, GRANDHEIST said:

If you type "Rockstar Games" on the Australian Rating site, these are the following results: http://www.classification.gov.au/Pages/Results.aspx?ncdctx=kT%2fxmetv8dU8V74IKBf%2bfyN%2buNuUaPzysrHfZDk2YoSRjlVuf8ijFUW1PGDU%2bP7w

All the games are developed by "Rockstar Games", while the guides (there's not only COD WW2 in the results) are made by "Rockstar Games developers". I don't know if that "developers" really makes a difference, maybe all those guides were commissioned to a minor Rockstar studio located in Australia (just guessing really).

 

I don't know how the Australian Rating System works, I just know it's pretty bad and they always get mad when they hear the words "Rockstar" and "Games" combined. The title banned was developed by Rockstar Games, so in theory it should be a game/DLC/app, surely not a guide.

I don't think it's RDR2 for PC, it wouldn't make sense to ban a game that already exists on other platforms (unless there's special content just for the PC version). My bet is a RDR2 DLC, probably the famous "coming in summer update" that should bring the already announced 3 different roles. One reason of why it could have been banned: I guess the trader will have to trasnport drugs. Oh wait, drugs in games are allowes in Australia, iFruit has been approved even if it has "drug use"... Yes, drug use in iFruit! Now I understand why the Australian Rating System is the worst.

So, if drugs in games in theory are allowed, may it be something related to gambilng and microtransactions?

Actually it could also be a Single Player DLC, but I guess that they'd have already announced it. Whatever they banned is coming very soon and , for the moment, the only thing that they officially announced is the RDR Online update.

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54 minutes ago, IG_ said:

Huh, imagine RDR2 PC getting delayed in order to satisfy Australia's classification requirements.

Maybe it was the RDO DLC and that's why it never came out today. 🤔

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LegacyKillaHD
46 minutes ago, Jason said:

Maybe it was the RDO DLC and that's why it never came out today. 🤔

Why would RDO DLC need a classification, unless it's being released as a standalone?!

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2 minutes ago, LegacyKillaHD said:

Why would RDO DLC need a classification, unless it's being released as a standalone?!

From what I've heard today some GTAO DLC has received classification in the past I think? Not 100% on it. @Spider-Vice would know.

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It can't be a gambling or microtransaction issue as GTA V and RDO both currently have microtransations, and GTA just added a literal casino which went off without a hitch in Aus. 

 

It's got to be some graphic scene or depiction removed, like when they banned the anal probe scene in the South Park game. 

 

Which also makes me think it's not related to Online, as it would be harder to justify censoring something that is already optional

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Dick Justice

Australia are notoriously stuffy about banning drug-related content, specifically when said drug gives the player some kind of buff. In Fallout 3, Med-X (a health item) was originally  named Morphine which got the game banned here. More recently, DayZ was banned because it treated cannabis as a health item. GTAV, for example, got through the system because the game had no such benefits from the featured drug use.  

 

In RDRII you get a stamina buff for using cocaine gum. I don’t know if this slipped through the cracks a year ago or was deemed passable by the Australian classification board due to period relevancy, but it stands to reason that this situation is no better than using cannabis or morphine as health items, both of which are used in modern medicine (the board is way out of touch on this one).

 

With all that said, I does sound like it could be a DLC for Red Dead. To speculate: perhaps they’re taking the drug-use a step further by including an opium den in Mexico or something like that, there was a stranger mission concerning opium in the first game down there, after all. 

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1 hour ago, Dick Justice said:

Australia are notoriously stuffy about banning drug-related content, specifically when said drug gives the player some kind of buff. In Fallout 3, Med-X (a health item) was originally  named Morphine which got the game banned here. More recently, DayZ was banned because it treated cannabis as a health item. GTAV, for example, got through the system because the game had no such benefits from the featured drug use.  

 

In RDRII you get a stamina buff for using cocaine gum. I don’t know if this slipped through the cracks a year ago or was deemed passable by the Australian classification board due to period relevancy, but it stands to reason that this situation is no better than using cannabis or morphine as health items, both of which are used in modern medicine (the board is way out of touch on this one).

 

With all that said, I does sound like it could be a DLC for Red Dead. To speculate: perhaps they’re taking the drug-use a step further by including an opium den in Mexico or something like that, there was a stranger mission concerning opium in the first game down there, after all. 

The likely scenarios are:

 

1: The PC Version which we already know is eventually coming, although why the PC version would get banned puzzles me. I doubt the PC Version will feature any new content, soooo?

 

2: RDR2 Online DLC, but even with this I have trouble understanding if the Summer Role-Playing update (Which I would imagine this banning would have to be for) would need classification unless its planned to be released as a standalone? But I mean if that was a problem, couldn't Rockstar easily adjust the content to not release in Australia? Confusing.

 

3: RDR2 Standalone Story Mode DLC, could be an expansion into Mexico (something Rockstar could take advantage of later with the Online). As Yan pointed out on Twitter, Rockstar Codenames typically are unrelated to what the project actually is so I don't know if we should look to deep into "Bonaire". Anyway Story Mode DLC is the most requested content but it's difficult to say for certain if Rockstar has any interest in expanding the Single-Player. Since release they've been very quiet about the possibility of expanding upon it.

 

4: New Game, maybe Bully 2? I find this the least likely as it seems this game (whatever it is) will be releasing in the near future.

19 hours ago, Emmi said:

So Ash has spoken back in 2017 that GTA VI won't be set in Miami. Makes me wonder why we still talk about Miami as the most likely setting then. Hm. For me this means won't be in Miami. Ash is trustworthy.

From what I've heard recently, there's good reason to believe the VC rumors.

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11 hours ago, Emmi said:

That'd be the worst case scenario.

I agree. But it’s also the most likely 

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3 minutes ago, O.Z said:

I agree. But it’s also the most likely 

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed it's for some meaty RDR2 story mode dlc. I don't think it's for a new game.

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55 minutes ago, LegacyKillaHD said:

3: RDR2 Standalone Story Mode DLC, could be an expansion into Mexico (something Rockstar could take advantage of later with the Online). As Yan pointed out on Twitter, Rockstar Codenames typically are unrelated to what the project actually is so I don't know if we should look to deep into "Bonaire". Anyway Story Mode DLC is the most requested content but it's difficult to say for certain if Rockstar has any interest in expanding the Single-Player. Since release they've been very quiet about the possibility of expanding upon it.

Rockstar doesn’t do standalone Single Player DLC’s anymore, it all stopped after the GTAO was released.

 

GTA V SP DLC was also the most requested content back then, did they listen? F*** no! 

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3 minutes ago, O.Z said:

Rockstar doesn’t do standalone Single Player DLC’s anymore, it all stopped after the GTAO was released.

 

GTA V SP DLC was also the most requested content back then, did they listen? F*** no! 

I mean Rockstar hasn't released many games since GTA Online took off...

 

and Red Dead Redemption Undead Nightmare was a standalone expansion so...yeah.

 

Expect the unexpected? Maybe.

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8 minutes ago, LegacyKillaHD said:

I mean Rockstar hasn't released many games since GTA Online took off...

 

and Red Dead Redemption Undead Nightmare was a standalone expansion so...yeah.

 

Expect the unexpected? Maybe.

Yes, those were the days when Rockstar actually cared about the single player/story mode.

 

Unfortunately it all changed with the release of the GTA Online, it has made so much money for Rockstar that after all these years they are still milking it... releasing new crap every other week, so that those 12 year olds can keep buying them shark cards!!! 

 

Now they are trying to do the same with RDO. Only this time it looks like Rockstar is even more greedier, as they haven’t released a single item to SP since launch(no new guns etc). 
 

Store Mode DLC? You got no chance...

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8 hours ago, Jason said:

Maybe it was the RDO DLC and that's why it never came out today. 🤔

It's strange... The Aussies don't seem to have separate classifications for DLC - some media reported that We Happy Few and DayZ got banned overall due to recent DLC. I thought PEGI didn't either but then again the Diamond Casino & Resort is an entry there.

 

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3 hours ago, LegacyKillaHD said:

1: The PC Version which we already know is eventually coming, although why the PC version would get banned puzzles me. I doubt the PC Version will feature any new content, soooo?

They know there will be mods to harm the children in the game

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Agent plz

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2 hours ago, O.Z said:

Store Mode DLC? You got no chance...

We have)

15 minutes ago, Zello said:

Agent plz

Cancelled

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