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JetNormalGuy
On 4/26/2020 at 5:11 AM, Niobium said:

overrated: trevor

 

underrated: johnny

 

enough said

you're hatred for Trevor is like a proper blood feud XD

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Overrated: Carl Johnson, Niko Bellic, Frank Tenpenny

 

Underrated: Reni Wassulmaier

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5 hours ago, Niobium said:

overrated: niko bellic (alright let me explain...)

 

it's not that he isn't a well-written character with lots of depth and personality. he is! but unfortunately, people tend to overlook other protagonists in favor of niko. people will say that niko is the greatest GTA protagonist of all time, but will overlook johnny, vic, tommy, and others. it's rare that i see GTA machinimas of johnny and luis anymore. it seems like the video makers all moved on to GTA V, and will only make videos of "niko's adventures in los santos" and not johnny or luis. and even when these video makers were still making videos of IV, niko was usually the star of the video, and johnny and luis were just relegated to sidekicks. i dunno.

 

underrated: niko bellic (alright let me explain!!!)

 

i just think it's idiotic to call niko a whiny hypocrite. like, what did he even whine about in IV? killing people? niko never whined about killing people. he may not be happy with how his life turned out, but he is still willing to do the job if it pays the bills. also, i never understood this "disconnect" between niko and the player. as if niko needs a reason for me to be killing lots of cops in free roam and throwing soda cans at people! this is grand theft auto people. jesus....

 

That sh*t's spun me out more than episode of Twin Peaks.

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LloydGTA3
On 9/4/2019 at 8:52 AM, Copcaller said:

Cj (kind of)- lot of people don't appreciate his character arc imo but the memes as amusing as they are can be a bit annoying sometimes. Also ridiculous how people get mad at him for killing some random construction ( lol) foreman who sexually harassed his sister yet don't mind Tommy or Toni killing Innocents. 

CJ has murdered innocents too. Remember Madd Dogg's manager? And he did it with glee as well ("Not today, asshole. Today we're taking the scenic route, via the bottom of the ocean!").

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12 hours ago, LloydGTA3 said:

CJ has murdered innocents too. Remember Madd Dogg's manager? And he did it with glee as well ("Not today, asshole. Today we're taking the scenic route, via the bottom of the ocean!").

Yes plus he has the options to murder Benny and Millie but I was just saying it's funny people are appalled at deconstruction yet don't mind messing with the man in vice city or karmageddon in LCS

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muvdafucupouttahere
On 4/25/2020 at 1:14 PM, Copcaller said:

 Also you don't have to touch someone to sexually harass them implying that person look likes a hooker and making sexually lewd comments to them is sexual harassment. 

So by that logic, that means that Sweet was sexually harassing his own sister, huh? Since, y'know, he told Kendl she looked exactly like what the construction workers called her.

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Smash Bandicoot

Overrated:

-Tommy Versh*tty

-Jhonny Klebitz

Underrated:

-Ryder

-Catalina

-Luiz Lopez

P.S: What's with all the CJ hate?

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22 hours ago, muvdafucupouttahere said:

So by that logic, that means that Sweet was sexually harassing his own sister, huh? Since, y'know, he told Kendl she looked exactly like what the construction workers called her.

No by that logic it's one thing if her brother said it rather than some random ass construction worker who's out of pocket. They had it coming in my opinion. 

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VenusianDream

Overrated: Trevor Philips

 

Underrated: Huang Lee

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Overrated : Tommy vercetti and Claude

Even tho the reason why claude was not able to swim was a toxic spill on lc; tommy was not able to to swim, i mean that is such a High let down.

even tho; there was the dodo in gta 3 so claude was able to fly, to some extent ...

 

Underrated : Vic vance

owner of several empires, ex military, he has good hand combat, melee fight, he was able to swim, fly, good driving skills

 

when will we get vcs on android/iphone pls R* :(

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Overrated:

--Trevor

--OG Loc

--Lamar

--Catalina

--Franklin

--Jimmy De Santa

--Pulaski

--Tenpenny, to some extent.

 

Underrated:

--Huang Lee

--Vic Vance

--Johnny Klebitz

--Chop

--Dave Norton

--CJ

--Dwayne

--Roman

--Brucie

--Asuka

--Ken Rosenberg

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Overrated

For protagonists;

Carl Johnson - I do like him but he's only liked because of his game.

Trevor Philips - He's not bad either but he's not very consistent.

For NPCs;

Tenpenny, to an extent - People only praise him because of Samuel L. Jackson, a really great actor.

Lamar Davis - Don't get what's so special about him. He's just a gangbanging idiot who likes getting Franklin into all kinds of sh*t.

Catalina - She's tolerable in III, yes. However, I just cannot stand her in San Andreas.

 

Underrated

For protagonists;

Vic Vance - Most humane protagonist in the series so far.

Luis Lopez - Don't really get the hate. He is just as badass'ic as Tommy and takes no sh*t as well.

For NPCs;

The Mendez Brothers - Very threatening and I think they should be the main antagonists in VCS. Martinez could be secondary.

Ryder - Love his trash-talking attitude and missions.

 

 

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On 6/21/2020 at 11:30 AM, Copcaller said:

No by that logic it's one thing if her brother said it rather than some random ass construction worker who's out of pocket. They had it coming in my opinion. 

"Hey bitch! Come over here and suck this dick! Don't make me come over there to f*ck that sweet pussy of yours! You know you want some of me!" = sexual harassment.

 

"You dressed like a hooker!" does NOT = sexual harassment.

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Jokeman123

Overrated: 

- CJ

- Ryder

-Roman

-Brucie

-Luis

- Trevor

- Franklin

- Claude

Underrated:

- Billy Grey

- Michael

- Steve Haines

- Jim Fitzgerald

- Dave Norton

- Pulaski

- Chop

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I would say that in Grand Theft Auto IV Packie is overrated, I don't really like him.

 

In Grand Theft Auto V it would be Lamar, there's nothing interesting about this dude.

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The Tracker
On 9/19/2019 at 1:56 AM, Max.pain said:

unerrated:jacob, this guy is one of the best gta characters and criminals ever, it’s always fun to hang out with him.

 

Is Jacob underrated? Idk, from my experience even GTA IV haters liked his character.

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The Tracker
On 9/17/2019 at 12:01 PM, Evil empire said:

Overrated:

 

Tommy Vercetti: He's for sure quite enjoyable to direct but when you see him acquire the skumhole shack which is by far the crappiest "safehouse" I've ever seen in a GTA and to make things even more ridiculous pay for it his "guy who doesn't take a sh*t from anyone" side definitely loses a lot of credibility. His Starfish Island mansion which is supposed to symbolize his wealth and power is just an empty nutshell filled with hallway mixed with a junkyard when you see the entry hall. He's supposed to be Vice City's kingpin at the end but can't even conquer the enemy territories some of his companies are inside of. Everytime he buys a company he personally does the job to make it profitable without anything in the scenario justifies it. Like I wrote in another topic the game would be more credible and immersive if there was a sequence explaining Tommy bought a certain quantity of drug the cops are going to confiscate and his only truck-driving employee is sick before he goes to sell the drug-filled Cherry poppers ice-cream. Tommy Vercetti suffers some serious inconsistencies that are rarely mentioned. You can always reply Tommy is a fictional character and Vice City was made very fastly the facts are here.

 

Cesar Vialpando: He doesn't have anything extraordinary that would make him a memorable character. He's just a random and easily forgettable character at least IMO.

 

Underrated:

 

Carl Johnson: CJ  undeniably doesn't have all the unidimensional consistency Claude shows for example but contrary to Tommy you never see him pay to get any crappy safehouse, he conquers the enemy territories where Tommy just waits for his enemies to attack his interests and the fact he oftenly performs menial tasks to make some companies profitable is more credible when you know he doesn't own most of the businesses he works for. So yes Carl Johnson lacks of consistency from time to time but he's certainly not worse than Tommy Vercetti on this point.

 

Mr Truth: by fr the most memorable GTA character I've ever seen and one of the best video games characters I've ever seen in my life, like Sheogorath in The Elder Scrolls franchise but still I don't see many persons who seem to enjoy this marvelous character as much as I do.

 

Damn, you're really obssesed with that safehouse, don't you?

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King Courtney Yardie
On 8/15/2019 at 11:35 PM, Max.pain said:

so are you telling us you don’t like cj because he is black?

Yeah i really like Atleast a guy like Claude Tommy or any white protagonist that Can defeat cj not only black beacause its too disrespectful to me as a white that no one white people are humanized except gta online protagonist i love black people but its super disrespectful to me that before gta iv only black can swim but after gta iv only white can swim except Franklin becoz hes black and its too disrespectful to me that Gta San Andreas is the only game that had too much details that isnt available in HD game i prefer Remake of gta sa Remaster is really trash 

 

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Overated:

Protagonists

Carl The Crip Johnson he's humanized and become famous beacause of the game and humanized

Trevor Phillips I really hate this dude becoz of some reasons

Antagonist

10Penny

Bestfreinds

Big Smoke

Underrated

Protagonist

Mike From Gta Adv

Antagonist

Kenny Wu

Bestfreinds

8Ball

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CynicalMexican

Overrated: Elizabeta Torres. She was extremely irritating and should've been executed by Niko.

 

Martin Madrazo - Ditto.

 

Underrated: Jimmy Hernandez. His character is seriously underdeveloped and he helped sabotage Tenpenny, and it helped CJ defeat Tenpenny. 

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Spartak2811
On 9/5/2019 at 9:53 AM, Jeansowaty said:

Overrated: Salvatore Leone. Useless old piece of sh*t with 0 redeeming character values and people only love him so much because he's a lazy rip-off of the Godfather. Same for the entire Leone mafia who is so f*cking caricatural it's a joke. If you want a real portrayal of the Mob, the Forellis and the Sindaccos were done more faithfully, heck the Mafia families in IV too.

 

Underrated: Mike from GTA Advance. Pretty solid protagonist for a rather poor game. Also Ray Boccino from IV and Asuka Kasen from III.

Very good comment.

Don Salvatore Leone is one of the most overrated and annoying characters in whole series whom I hate the most. He tries to seem to be a Big Boss, a Great Gangster, but in reality he’s  just a sneaky, treacherous, lying, hypocritical, manipulative, narcissistic, unstable and pathetic old man who lost his mind with his paranoia, megalomania and endless lust for power. He always follows the rule “Betray first before you could be betrayed”. His biggest enemy is himself. Not only paranoid and narcissistic, but he also a lustful womanizer, for whom women are just toys. Especially with his unhappy trophy wife Maria whom he showed his true nature - he never loved her. He insults and humiliates her, he treats her like a trash, like a toy, like a commodity, like a trophy, not like a woman, he neglects and doesn't pay any attention for her, and, what most players don't want to see, he cheats on her with hookers in JD's brothel. We saw him in brothel twice (Don in 60 Seconds and Salvatore Salvation). He's a frequent customer of this brothel (later Luigi's Sex Club 7), later in III Luigi also confirmed that his girls miss him. And players still call Maria annoying and cheating slut and tramp? That’s a pathetic hypocrisy. He tried to outsmart and manipulate everyone and then betray them after investing to Caligula’s Casino owned by Sindacco Family (later invested by Forelli Family) to take it all to himself, but he burned on that. He blindly trusted CJ and planned to rob Four Dragons Casino, betraying him, but he was outsmarted. CJ did the justice, destroying Salvatore’s vain narcissist ego. He scammed Toni Cipriani, he betrayed Claude, he and only he poisoned and ruined Maria’s life. He got what he deserved. I’m very happy that the fatal fate had caught him. Every dog has its day.

Underrated are Asuka and Maria. Asuka is very loyal, honest and sincere woman even with her sadistic side of character. Her brutal but caring heart blindly trusted to Claude, who secretly stabbed her in the back, killing his brother and used her for his revenge to Catalina. And then he drained her out like a used condom. She deserved much better.

Maria seems as disposable and hated even more then Catalina, but she deserved much better in her life. She didn’t want the fate of unhappy drug addicted trophy wife who can be used and manipulated. Her young and naive heart trusted to insidious manipulator, vain narcissist and lustful womanizer who poisoned and ruined her life. Of course, I don’t condone her actions but I don’t blame her in all troubles. She wanted to be better, she made all efforts to be better, and Asuka helped her a lot, this awakened a good trait in her and gave her an opportunity to repent. 
That helped her to save Claude from inevitable death and apologize to him. Maria had just exhausted from abusing, disrespectful and humiliating attitude to her and she wanted to start over a new life. She wanted to be a woman, not a toy or a puppet in manipulator’s hands. Salvatore poisoned and ruined her life.

I’m sorry because it’s too long. But I didn’t have a choice. I just wanted to show and proof that this topic is much complicated. And Salvatore is not poor and miserable sheep who became victim of so-called “insidious seductress”.

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On 7/14/2021 at 1:57 PM, King Courtney Yardie said:

Yeah i really like Atleast a guy like Claude Tommy or any white protagonist that Can defeat cj not only black beacause its too disrespectful to me as a white that no one white people are humanized except gta online protagonist i love black people but its super disrespectful to me that before gta iv only black can swim but after gta iv only white can swim except Franklin becoz hes black and its too disrespectful to me that Gta San Andreas is the only game that had too much details that isnt available in HD game i prefer Remake of gta sa Remaster is really trash 

 

Yeah that's actually pretty racist.

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