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Zello

The R Kelly Situation

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Zello
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R Kelly has gotten in a lot of legal trouble recently. His music has been pulled from a lot of places. His song Bump N Grind is in IV and R* likes to pull songs when they can once licences expire.  With R Kelly do you think they'll pull it because of the controversy or will they keep it in since it's an 11 year old game.

 

Do you think they'll remove it?

Edited by Zello

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DOUGL4S1

Maybe not now, but if things don't change, they may not want to renew the license for the 20th anniversary.

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billiejoearmstrong8
Posted (edited)

I don't think that's something that's usually done retroactively in films/tv/games that are already out and old in situations like this, it's more about music outlets pulling his music from sale so that they're not continuing to make money for him.

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The Journey

I think you are forgetting to separate a person from their work. Yes, R. Kelly has done bad things but his song still fits in the radio station it is in and R* isn't losing money from keeping it in, and that is all R* cares about nowadays, money.

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billiejoearmstrong8
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13 hours ago, The Journey said:

I think you are forgetting to separate a person from their work. Yes, R. Kelly has done bad things but his song still fits in the radio station it is in and R* isn't losing money from keeping it in, and that is all R* cares about nowadays, money.

Supporting artists who've done very bad things can lose a company money through bad publicity though and is probably (if they were totally honest) the number one reason for any company choosing not to sell/use his music along with any genuine moral concerns. I don't think it applies in this case since the song continuing to be in the game presumably doesn't generate any more money for R Kelly, and as the game is old and it's just one of many songs it isn't really making R* any measurable amount of money either. But if it was a case of choosing to renew the license for it or not or to use an R Kelly song in a new game or not there's a good chance they wouldn't.

 

Why should a person be separated entirely from their work? That can be justified when it just comes to enjoying their music that you already know/own etc but when it comes to companies giving them publicity and support and generating a lot of money for them it's absolutely ok for them to choose not to do that for someone who's done reprehensible things and doesn't deserve their support any more.

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DeftMacaroon510

I’m sorry but outside of this forum I can guarantee almost NOBODY will care or remember that one of his songs is in an 11 year old game, r* won’t lose a single penny over any of it, I understand he’s done horrible things but it’s an old game now and it’s like one song, come to think of it I don’t care either, hardly something worth worrying about.

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The Time Ranger

R. Kelly pissed on my PS3, now I can't play Gta IV anymore. 

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KGBeast

My mind's telling me no.

 

But my body.

 

My body's telling me yes. 

 

In all seriousness, though. No. You're worried about a song by an alleged criminal in a game series about being a criminal? You know you can kill innocent people, cops, soldiers, etc in these games right? You know the radio stations are full of songs about killing people and f*ck the cops right? You know there are songs made by other convicted criminals in these games right? You know how many of the rap songs featured in the series were produced by Suge Knight who is now in prison for voluntary manslaughter? Should all of those be removed too? 

 

I don't see what removing this song from an 11 year old game would accomplish. Erasing the past doesn't lead to anything good. And including something made by a criminal can in itself be an artistic statement, and has nothing to do with endorsing the actions of that person. Like Tarantino using one of Manson's songs in his new movie. 

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billiejoearmstrong8
26 minutes ago, KGBeast said:

 

 

I don't see what removing this song from an 11 year old game would accomplish. Erasing the past doesn't lead to anything good. And including something made by a criminal can in itself be an artistic statement, and has nothing to do with endorsing the actions of that person. Like Tarantino using one of Manson's songs in his new movie. 

The difference is when it benefits the person. Using Manson's songs doesn't benefit him since he's dead (and probably wouldn't have before that either with him imprisoned and no chance of a career). Keeping R Kelly's song in an 11 year old game doesn't measurably benefit him (as he isn't getting paid from it and can hardly be said to be getting promotion from it). But if they decided to use one of his songs in a new game, supporting him by paying him a lot of money and promoting his music while he still has a lot of fans and can benefit from it, that would potentially bring bad publicity to the company and also just not be something they personally would want to choose to do. Not contributing to keeping a child rapist's career and lavish lifestyle going is doing something good.

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