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[WIP|RDR|PC] Red Dead Redemption: Damned Enhancement Project


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Just now, DamnedDev said:

I'm not looking to get screwed by a large company at this time.

Then you should probably stop promoting your self, the mod and the case like you're promoting a Hollywood film.

 

Take-Two are a multi-billion dollar company, not a bunch of naive kids. If you believe you have a case and for God knows what reason you're willing to try and fight Take-Two on it, you'd do well to keep quiet and talk about the matter with your lawyer only because otherwise Take-Two are going to bend you over in court and there aint a damn thing you'll be able to do about it.

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2 minutes ago, DamnedDev said:

Not really as it was blurred out.

 

I'm sure they can still use it in court like "hey we sent him THIS text message with THIS wording etc".

 

Granted I'm not a lawyer so I don't know what evidence is inadmissible or not but still

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Just now, DamnedDev said:

If I did keep quiet they win. This won't hurt me as won't let it reach court just enough to get them to talk back and forth. I believe this shouldn't kept quiet and public needs to know.

As seen with the OpenIV situation public support goes a long way, yes, but that doesn't mean you air everything about the case, including emails and the like, in public.

 

1 minute ago, DamnedDev said:

Doubt it.

You're trying to take on Take-Two in a legal battle and your answer to whether or not they can f*ck you over cause of something is "doubt it"?

 

For your sake I hope you're right and it doesn't go to court lol

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5 minutes ago, DamnedDev said:

Doubt it.

 

I literally just google searched saying that regardless it's evidence so I hope either you got a good lawyer or you're willing to settle 

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Why didn’t they just send a cease and desist like they have done with every single case before? Companies have a tendency of doing that.

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2 hours ago, theNGclan said:

Why didn’t they just send a cease and desist like they have done with every single case before? Companies have a tendency of doing that.

 

“””””allegedly””””” they did 

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1 minute ago, universetwisters said:

 

“””””allegedly””””” they did 

Kinda strange that they would supposedly go this route when they’ve been known to send PIs and C&D letters like it’s going out of style.

 

FiveM, OpenIV, RDR map for V, etc etc. There isn’t a reason this story should be this vague and so different. It’s fishy imho.

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31 minutes ago, theNGclan said:

Kinda strange that they would supposedly go this route when they’ve been known to send PIs and C&D letters like it’s going out of style.

 

FiveM, OpenIV, RDR map for V, etc etc. There isn’t a reason this story should be this vague and so different. It’s fishy imho.

 

Yeah like did those guys ever get any unsolicited text messages asking for the mod creator to "talk about" the project, like what John here's getting?

At this point I'm 90% sure this is all made up and John just wants attention for his gaming channel.

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5 minutes ago, DamnedDev said:

It was verbal on call there was no letter or anything. Was not concrete. Quit stiring up drama.

If you’re getting defensive when people question the legitimacy of something they read on a forum that has had its fair share of hoaxes then it really doesn’t help the legitimacy of your claim.

 

Innocent people don’t get mad when people want evidence for things.

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15 minutes ago, DamnedDev said:

It was verbal on call there was no letter or anything. Was not concrete. Quit stiring up drama.

 

It's kinda weird for T2, a large legal company who's done stuff like this before in the past, to only give you a call.

 

Plus another damning thing that makes me think this is a hoax is the trailer in the opening post and, if this is to be believed, surely T2 would tell you to take it down and try to take down all instances of it (as they did with the RDR to IV mod trailers)

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7 minutes ago, DamnedDev said:

I'm done talking on subject same thing happen to RDRV was verbal as well in same manner.

 

I'm literally just asking the validity of this situation and how you're allowed to still keep videos of it up when RDRV got it taken down from T2. That's the biggest fault in your claim.

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If you don’t want the topic to be discussed then you should have never came forward on a publicly visible site with your situation. Simple as that.

 

There is nothing wrong with questioning the legitimacy of your story when we factor in your history. Could it have happened? Sure. Did it happen? We can’t be sure at the moment but your history of coercing people to do things for you says otherwise.

 

It’d be like me claiming Take Two took down my Niko mod for V and then claiming they did nothing regarding a legal process to make me halt my progress, only to then suggest they broke the law by accessing publicly available information. T2 contacting your family, while petty, is not illegal - the white pages are a thing, you know.

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You were told not to talk about it but not take it down? Is your story really this backwards or are you just reaching into a hat to get your replies? They would want you to shut it down and say nothing - there is no in between. By speaking about legal plans you have you are potentially voiding your case.

 

You can’t fight them with anything because they did not break the law and you are intending on releasing assets that belong to them. It may not be fair but that’s just how it is. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, if you get what I mean.

 

Rockstar / T2 can take down any mod that affects their games as they wish. Is it right? No, not really, but are you going to try to say that you have every right to release modified versions of assets that are legally their property and not yours?

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Dude, I’ve been through multiple court cases where I’m the victim and the offender. I’m telling you, as someone who has been on both sides of the courtroom spectrum, that what you are doing is not just wrong but incredibly stupid.

 

You will waste your money with a lawyer. You will look like a clown for trying to take a company over their own property. You will lose the case. Drop your flags and save yourself the trouble.

 

What’s next, are you gonna take PSY to court because of your smash hit from the Juhnlogic album?

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22 minutes ago, DamnedDev said:

As I said they had no solid ground and I wasn't told to remove it but threatened if I talked about what happened. I don't take kind to threats.

 

You're literally talking about it to everyone who will listen. You've been incriminating yourself and making your chances of winning the case plummet like a plane that just lost it's wings and turbines since twenty days ago.

 

@Ash_735 @Jestic , what was the call like?

 

 

2 minutes ago, DamnedDev said:

The lawyer doing me a favor he not gonna charge me. What he gonna do is make it where we can talk to them to work it out.

 

Oh god please tell me you didn't get one of those "IF I DON'T WIN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY A DIME" lawyers that they advertise on television at 2 in the morning.

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There is NO SUCH THING as a FREE LAWYER. Doing legal work is their job, not a pass time. Did you ring them up after hearing them run an advertisement on the radio?
 

This situation should have stayed between you, your lawyer and Take Two. Blabbing about it to this degree is going to totally destroy your “case” if it wasn’t DOA.


I would love to see you get through this and release your mod but stop acting like you have a chance to take on some big corporation by lying and saying they’re illegally harassing you. Slander / libel is not going to help you overthrow big bad Zelnick.

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I know John can be a dick and has been a dick in the past, even I wasn't bothered about hearing him out at first. BUT he did a brilliant job in actually recording the call with Gena because it shows what tactics they've used, she used threatening language, got details about the mod completely wrong and refused to actually explain what was wrong once corrected, instead trying to further threaten him. I'm not going into the full details, that's up to John, but in this instance, Take-Two are completely in the wrong and went about this in the wrong way in hopes that John would back down like previous people have, but unlike them, John is an adult, they can't just go to his parents (even thought they tried!) and hope to confuse them with court costs and threats and bully them into signing an NDA, again, something they've done with previous cases.

 

My advice to John though, spread this to as many news sites as possible, BUT don't go shouting off in the comments sections and stuff when people show doubt, just get the news out there and let your lawyer do the rest with what should hopefully be a breeze of a case unless Take-Two try and drag it out as much as possible.

 

edit: And reading through this thread, John has done a bit of a sh*t job explaining what happened, but I can say the pattern was the same as the previous C&D's, only here John blew it up right away instead of signing anything.

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Well dang, Ash blew my idea of the whole thing being fake out of the water. Well done my guy.

 

But even if this does go to court, I'm still very skeptical of how well it'll hold out.

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Just now, DamnedDev said:

How so as Ash said confirming they had no legal grounds it's a ball park winner.

 

I mean you're still gonna have to pay for a lawyer and, knowing T2, they'll probably try to drag it out as long as they will since there's actually opposition this time.

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