Favourite Female Character?

[Vercettis]

This is a tough one: who would you list as your favourite female character in the Grand Theft Auto series?

You have to choose at least one and explain why.

Mine is Mercedes Cortez. I never cared much for her until literally just yesterday after hearing the unused phone calls audio. Mercedes was funny and cute! It's a shame those phone calls were scrapped. She was so horny for Tommy though lmao. It's kind of hard to pick a fav female character in GTA, because most of them are very poorly-written and annoying lol

[billiejoearmstrong8]

My favourite is Elizabeta Torres. No nonsense attitude and a total boss, but also always laughing and joking and enjoying herself. And not without her flaws (drugs and a temper). Really enjoyable character, one of my favourite characters in IV

 

I also like Catalina and her craziness and absolute ruthlessness, great antagonist in III and doing robberies with her is one of my favourite things in San Andreas, totally entertaining

 

In V I liked Maude, she was just a unique and amusing character and I liked her exchanges with Trevor

 

Ilyena Faustin was very interesting, a tragic character really but I liked her conversations with Niko. Marnie is also cool, first hearing her story and helping her out in IV and then the twist of her being clean and an Epsilonist in V. Also I didn't really warm to Michelle/Karen's or Kate McCreary's personalities but I do think they were well written and interesting characters

 

It's true there's some crappy writing of female characters to be found in GTA but there's a few gems in there

 

Edited August 8, 2019 by billiejoearmstrong8

[universetwisters]

Paige in GTA 5 was my favorite big tiddy goth girl

 

 

 

Catalina was also a cool character, not necessarily well written but not too bad either. Even though she was just a generic villain in III, SA did a decent job fleshing her out. Kinda a shame she looks nothing in III like she did in SA though.

 

 

 

 

Really hard to believe these two are the same person tbqh

[H-G]

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Edited March 19, 2020 by The Eddo

[Jeansowaty]

Molly Schultz, since 2013  she's very pretty, has a nice style, rides a cool car and dislikes the stupid protagonists. I also like how she's so affectionate and devout to Devin, really makes you think of how submissive she has to be to him. Shame he's such a cunt to her though.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Mine is Mallorie. She's so cute and is really what holds Roman and Niko together. I think it would've been nice if she was available as a friend though to hang out with. I feel bad for her in the "Deal" ending when she tells Niko Roman was going to be a father.

 

[Copcaller]

Elizabeta Torres badass crime boss who's kinda hot tbh and her killing Manny and jay gives her points too

 

 

[iiCriminnaaL]

Catalina in GTA III, as well as Mallorie and Karen in GTA IV.

Edited August 9, 2019 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[Bratva Assassin]

Mallorie, Kate, and Karen in GTA IV.

[kobeni]

Ling from Chinatown Wars. She is equally as snarky as Huang and is probably able to kill just as well. She could have been a great protagonist to play as.

 

It's just a shame that she got the Rockstar treatment and bit the dust early in the game.

[Death]

Mallorie (GTA IV).

[billiejoearmstrong8]

I forgot Ursula in V! Excellent, I wish there was more of her in the game.

Edited August 14, 2019 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Evil empire]

Catalina closely followed by Michelle Cannes.

[watersgta3]

Catalina, but only in GTA 3. It's a shame she didn't appear in more cutscenes.

 

Kendl would be the closest to being useful on the "heroic" side.

Edited September 16, 2019 by watersgta3

[KingAJ032304]

Unpopular opinion: I actually really liked Catalina in GTA SA but not so much in GTA III because she didn't feel like a realistic crime boss to me. In SA she felt like a real person with serious issues. In III she felt like a plot device for the protagonist to have motivation as her accomplishments done in such little time with little difficulty while also being a female backstabbing unlikable bitch just seems unrealistic even in a game like GTA (though I guess it's more realistic than all of CJs accomplishments in San Fierro lol)

[Bolototu]

Catalina

[Yfyuelu]

Ulrika from first GTA

[Tao Cheng]

Mary Jo Cassidy

 

Most underrated character by far.

Edited September 14, 2019 by Tao Cheng

[Guest Billy Russo]

Catalina actually.

 

I used to think she was annoying, but I really enjoy her now when I replay the games.

[Lioshenka]

Karen Daniels/Michelle

 

I'm literally in love with her in GTA 4. She's perfect in terms of the appearance - the right height, dark hair, pretty face, nice haircut, semi-formal stylish clothes, and turns out to be rather caring despite her job. And she also never argues and isn't bossy.

 

Just being able to be with her would be enough of a reason for me to stay in Liberty City.

[billiejoearmstrong8]

1 hour ago, Lioshenka said:

And she also never argues and isn't bossy.

 

 

That's because she's undercover totally playing you to get as much information out of you as she can though haha. Judging by that flashlight scene in GTA V she might not have shown Niko her full character  

[Lioshenka]

25 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

That's because she's undercover totally playing you to get as much information out of you as she can though haha. Judging by that flashlight scene in GTA V she might not have shown Niko her full character  

I like to blame Niko's disgraceful behaviour towards her that shuttered her positive view on life and made her into the sadistic monster that she is now.

Besides who knows, maybe Niko wouldn't mind the a little torch action every now and then

[Algonquin Assassin]

11 hours ago, Lioshenka said:

I like to blame Niko's disgraceful behaviour towards her that shuttered her positive view on life and made her into the sadistic monster that she is now.

What disgraceful behaviour?

 

She lied and deceived who she really was and Niko thought she wanted a serious relationship so I don't see how he could be blamed for feeling like he was betrayed. Not only did she sell out Niko, but she also sold out Mallorie who thought she was her friend. The thing I don't get is after Karen/Michelle is done with GTA IV's story it's implied she cut ties with the IAA, but GTA V complicates this by making her show up 5 years later as a lead interrogator with barely any sort of explanation. It isn't far fetched that Karen in GTA V is the "real:" person she's always been.

 

The only reason she comes across as cutesy in GTA IV and never argues or anything is it's apart of her job to distort and attract as ittle attention as possible. More of her real personality is on show when she asks Niko to meet her out side of the UL Paper building. She never smokes once when she's dating Niko, but she starts doing it after they stop dating and her demeanour is noticeably different. I'm no expert on human behaviour or anything, but I'm absolutely certain people don't just change their personalities at a switch like that because they had a spat with someone. 

 

You could say she's a great manipulator and managed to get within the inner circle of Niko's family and friends, but it doesn't change the fact she's two faced.

[Max.pain]

16 hours ago, Lioshenka said:

I like to blame Niko's disgraceful behaviour

? i know you don’t like gta 4 but c’mon, “niko’s disgraceful behaviour”. what does that mean? an alternate cutscene i didn’t watch?

[billiejoearmstrong8]

7 hours ago, SonOfLiberty said:

What disgraceful behaviour?

 

She lied and deceived who she really was and Niko thought she wanted a serious relationship so I don't see how he could be blamed for feeling like he was betrayed. Not only did she sell out Niko, but she also sold out Mallorie who thought she was her friend. The thing I don't get is after Karen/Michelle is done with GTA IV's story it's implied she cut ties with the IAA, but GTA V complicates this by making her show up 5 years later as a lead interrogator with barely any sort of explanation. It isn't far fetched that Karen in GTA V is the "real:" person she's always been.

 

The only reason she comes across as cutesy in GTA IV and never argues or anything is it's apart of her job to distort and attract as ittle attention as possible. More of her real personality is on show when she asks Niko to meet her out side of the UL Paper building. She never smokes once when she's dating Niko, but she starts doing it after they stop dating and her demeanour is noticeably different. I'm no expert on human behaviour or anything, but I'm absolutely certain people don't just change their personalities at a switch like that because they had a spat with someone. 

 

You could say she's a great manipulator and managed to get within the inner circle of Niko's family and friends, but it doesn't change the fact she's two faced.

Yeah although you can get some idea of her personality she's still basically playing an acting role the entire time she's with Niko and all of the conversations they have are really just to get info from him either by directing asking him questions or to get him to feel comfortable with her. The entire "relationship" is fake. I think it's true you can tell she does feel somewhat bad about having tricked him which does make her more likeable but you can't judge her personality based on her dates with Niko at all.

Edited September 17, 2019 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Lioshenka]

3 hours ago, Max.pain said:

? i know you don’t like gta 4 but c’mon, “niko’s disgraceful behaviour”. what does that mean? an alternate cutscene i didn’t watch?

We discussed it before (with @SonOfLiberty I believe), it turned out that what he found to be normal and natural reaction from Niko I found disgraceful and appalling. And we were talking about the same cutscnese

 

 

9 hours ago, SonOfLiberty said:

What disgraceful behaviour?

 

She lied and deceived who she really was and Niko thought she wanted a serious relationship so I don't see how he could be blamed for feeling like he was betrayed. Not only did she sell out Niko, but she also sold out Mallorie who thought she was her friend. The thing I don't get is after Karen/Michelle is done with GTA IV's story it's implied she cut ties with the IAA, but GTA V complicates this by making her show up 5 years later as a lead interrogator with barely any sort of explanation. It isn't far fetched that Karen in GTA V is the "real:" person she's always been.

 

The only reason she comes across as cutesy in GTA IV and never argues or anything is it's apart of her job to distort and attract as ittle attention as possible. More of her real personality is on show when she asks Niko to meet her out side of the UL Paper building. She never smokes once when she's dating Niko, but she starts doing it after they stop dating and her demeanour is noticeably different. I'm no expert on human behaviour or anything, but I'm absolutely certain people don't just change their personalities at a switch like that because they had a spat with someone. 

 

You could say she's a great manipulator and managed to get within the inner circle of Niko's family and friends, but it doesn't change the fact she's two faced.

We discussed it before, you think that Niko's reaction was justified, and that Karen never developed personal attachment to him, I think otherwise based on the same dialogues and the cutscenes.

 

The way I see it is that she left her life of crime behind her when she started working for the government, involuntarily fell in a genuine love with Niko during the course of their interactions and was hoping for something more thinking that there may be a normal future ahead of her after all; he then proceeded to being all butthurt about it (and called her a bitch I believe), which made her realise that she and all her dreams are worthless, and no matter how loving and affectionate the person appears to be they are only out there to hurt you after all. At which point she reverted back to smoking (I either assume she stopped or she didn't want to tell Niko out of fear of being rejected) and focusing on her career by any means necessary.

 

I do not fully agree with you that people can change their behaviour like that, generally it takes a lot of building up and trying to hold it together, especially if you've been through a lot of mental abuse or physical violence or whatever crap Karen got involved with when she was younger, and then all it takes is that one thing that tips it over making you re-think your whole life. Some people became apathetic, some people become killers, some people focus on their career - and I think Karen did the latter.

Edited September 17, 2019 by Lioshenka

[billiejoearmstrong8]

19 minutes ago, Lioshenka said:

We discussed it before (with @SonOfLiberty I believe), it turned out that what he found to be normal and natural reaction from Niko I found disgraceful and appalling. And we were talking about the same cutscnese

The cutscene where she reveals she's an undercover agent who was going on dates with him, sleeping with him and pretending to be in a relationship with him only to report on him and his friends leading them to being blackmailed/arrested? And the worst he did was feel betrayed and call her a bitch? Plenty of GTA characters have been killed for much less, him and everyone he knows in the city is in danger because of her. What about Niko's reaction was disgraceful/appalling? 

Edited September 17, 2019 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Lioshenka]

1 minute ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

The cutscene where she reveals she's an undercover agent who was going on dates with him, sleeping with him and pretending to be in a relationship with him only to report on him and his friends leading them to being blackmailed/arrested? And the worst he did was feel betrayed and call her a bitch? Plenty of GTA characters have been killed for much less, him and everyone he knows in the city is in danger because of her. What about Niko's reaction was disgraceful/appalling? 

For someone who's been through the wars, betrayal and a whole bunch of LC-based crime I expect him to better control his emotions. He's not a teenager for god's sake.

[billiejoearmstrong8]

1 minute ago, Lioshenka said:

For someone who's been through the wars, betrayal and a whole bunch of LC-based crime I expect him to better control his emotions. He's not a teenager for god's sake.

I would say only calling her a bitch and walking away was a pretty good demonstration of controlling emotion considering Niko has committed more murders than any other GTA protagonist lol. The moral code of him and the people he knows is based on loyalty. He isn't just upset because of the relationship turning out to be a lie, he also knows he and everyone he's met in the city is now in danger (indeed, he and Jacob are blackmailed and have to risk their lives for the government and Elizabeta ends up in prison for life, and he has no idea how many other friends might get arrested or what will happen to him). In the criminal world of GTA it's really not much different to say the undercover cop in Blow Your Cover who they instantly kill without a thought, even though she'd been blackmailed to do the work herself that doesn't make a lot of difference to the people she was spying on so she was lucky really. I think you're underestimating what a big deal the reveal was, it was a lot more than just a relationship ending.

[Lioshenka]

16 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

I would say only calling her a bitch and walking away was a pretty good demonstration of controlling emotion considering Niko has committed more murders than any other GTA protagonist lol. The moral code of him and the people he knows is based on loyalty. He isn't just upset because of the relationship turning out to be a lie, he also knows he and everyone he's met in the city is now in danger (indeed, he and Jacob are blackmailed and have to risk their lives for the government and Elizabeta ends up in prison for life, and he has no idea how many other friends might get arrested or what will happen to him). In the criminal world of GTA it's really not much different to say the undercover cop in Blow Your Cover who they instantly kill without a thought, even though she'd been blackmailed to do the work herself that doesn't make a lot of difference to the people she was spying on so she was lucky really. I think you're underestimating what a big deal the reveal was, it was a lot more than just a relationship ending.

That's the beauty of the artform that is video games - they leave a lot to the imagination.