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Beatrice

Won the car 2 days ago, and won a different one today - while not having a garage yet. Did I mess up big time?

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Beatrice

Actually, do you fellas believe that the 'honorable' thing to do is to buy the Thrax? When I got the black armored Bentley car for 6 story missions, I realized that I'm in love, to be honest - the steering and speed combo this one has is just perfect for my poor riding skills with a gamepad.

 

But I do think that if that's a sh*tty thing to do from an outside perspective, it would be better to buy it back, and also tune it to have the exact same colors as the podium version had. I was actually surprised why they had to give me $ instead of just giving the car, seeing that now I have a garage with tons of space. After all, this car is more than just a car, it's a fun memory of one of the worst blunders I had ever made.

 

P.S. On a slightly unrelated note, apparently I ran into a hacker yesterday, who was first 'ejecting' me from my car and 'suiciding' me, but after he was done I also noticed a reticle appeared when I ride that black armored Bently. I checked with the wiki, the car should not have a built-in machine gun, so I guess it's something the hacker did to the vehicle. I wonder whether I'm about to find something else changed. This is insane that other people can modify your stuff. As much as I hate modern Blizzard as a company, after playing FromSoftware's and Rockstar's online games on PC I now see just how grateful people should be to how hacker-protected WoW really is.

 

For now, dropped another ticket, hopefully they can look at some logs to see what was done to the car and revert it. ;_;

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dieseltech20
7 minutes ago, Beatrice said:

Actually, do you fellas believe that the 'honorable' thing to do is to buy the Thrax? When I got the black armored Bentley car for 6 story missions, I realized that I'm in love, to be honest - the steering and speed combo this one has is just perfect for my poor riding skills with a gamepad.

 

But I do think that if that's a sh*tty thing to do from an outside perspective, it would be better to buy it back, and also tune it to have the exact same colors as the podium version had. I was actually surprised why they had to give me $ instead of just giving the car, seeing that now I have a garage with tons of space. After all, this car is more than just a car, it's a fun memory of one of the worst blunders I had ever made.

 

P.S. On a slightly unrelated note, apparently I ran into a hacker yesterday, who was first 'ejecting' me from my car and 'suiciding' me, but after he was done I also noticed a reticle appeared when I ride that black armored Bently. I checked with the wiki, the car should not have a built-in machine gun, so I guess it's something the hacker did to the vehicle. I wonder whether I'm about to find something else changed. This is insane that other people can modify your stuff. As much as I hate modern Blizzard as a company, after playing FromSoftware's and Rockstar's online games on PC I now see just how grateful people should be to how hacker-protected WoW really is.

 

For now, dropped another ticket, hopefully they can look at some logs to see what was done to the car and revert it. ;_;

Uh, the free armored car does indeed come with machine guns on it.

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Beatrice
1 hour ago, dieseltech20 said:

Uh, the free armored car does indeed come with machine guns on it.

...huh. That's weird. It definitely didn't 'default' to the machine guns when I entered it just after getting it, but now whenever I enter it, even if the last weapon was set to 'unarmed', every time I enter it it's 'machine guns'. Welp, maybe I pressed something wrong...

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SummerFreeze
6 hours ago, Beatrice said:

Actually, do you fellas believe that the 'honorable' thing to do is to buy the Thrax?

I do, but I also realize money is very hard to come by as a new player, so I wouldn't blame you if you didn't.

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whywontyoulisten
6 hours ago, Beatrice said:

Actually, do you fellas believe that the 'honorable' thing to do is to buy the Thrax?

You can do that with all the money you're making from your new bunker.

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Beatrice

Decisions, decisions... This week has juicy discounts on doomsday-related vehicles, but to buy them, I first need to buy a facility and complete some introduction, it seems. So if I want to capitalize on the discounts, I need to decide quicker, and also calculate whether I'd even need those extra 2.325 to get the most of the discount week.

 

I also wonder whether I should use the 85% twitch prime discount on yachts... I mean... I know they are pretty much useless, BUT 85% MAN. This marketing strategy seems to work perfectly, considering that I didn't have a garage a couple of days ago, and now I wish to buy a goddamn yacht that I don't need.

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They have discounts every few weeks on pointless toys. A yacht is nothing more than a floating spawn point. If you don't invest in money-making businesses while you can, you will be poor forever.

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SummerFreeze
31 minutes ago, Beatrice said:

Decisions, decisions... This week has juicy discounts on doomsday-related vehicles, but to buy them, I first need to buy a facility and complete some introduction, it seems. So if I want to capitalize on the discounts, I need to decide quicker, and also calculate whether I'd even need those extra 2.325 to get the most of the discount week.

 

I also wonder whether I should use the 85% twitch prime discount on yachts... I mean... I know they are pretty much useless, BUT 85% MAN. This marketing strategy seems to work perfectly, considering that I didn't have a garage a couple of days ago, and now I wish to buy a goddamn yacht that I don't need.

Do you own any money-making businesses yet apart from those included in the starter pack?

 

The nightclub is usually considered a late game business, but given that the Terrorbyte is 50% off, and the fact that you already own a bunker and cash factory, you might consider getting one. You could then alternate between TB client jobs and VIP work, which both pay pretty well and can be done in Invite-Only sessions. Or you could get a special cargo warehouse as well, which opens another item in the NC and you can source crates as well in between client jobs / VIP work.

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Beatrice
52 minutes ago, whywontyoulisten said:

They have discounts every few weeks on pointless toys. A yacht is nothing more than a floating spawn point. If you don't invest in money-making businesses while you can, you will be poor forever.

 

16 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

Do you own any money-making businesses yet apart from those included in the starter pack?

 

The nightclub is usually considered a late game business, but given that the Terrorbyte is 50% off, and the fact that you already own a bunker and cash factory, you might consider getting one. You could then alternate between TB client jobs and VIP work, which both pay pretty well and can be done in Invite-Only sessions. Or you could get a special cargo warehouse as well, which opens another item in the NC and you can source crates as well in between client jobs / VIP work.

You guys vastly overestimate my current level of involvement in the game.

So far, I have 7.1m$ saved from various promotions (I have the game in my steam library since something like 2015, the edition I got on one of the sales also had one of the shark cards) - that's including the 2.325 I got back for the Thrax.

 

As for the CESP stuff, I haven't even just bought them all. I log in, I see the Lamar mission that I need to do (the one with a yellow and purple 'team' stirring sh*t up in the city), I get a ton of calls regarding Arena Wars, various businesses and stuff... But the only thing from CESP I actually 'bought' already is the 10-car garage. I also got some of the free cars (including Elegy and the 6 casino missions armored Bentley) in there. That's all - I haven't bought anything else yet. I mostly launch the game casually, run to the casino, spin the wheel, check the various things, and then log off. That's my routine. I am much more involved with RDO currently, but I do plan on playing GTAO in a more involved way eventually. That said, I don't really know what to do with those 7.1m right now. I don't think I have the required level of attention and involvement to even go through the introductory stuff right now (that's why I'm not even 'buying' the free business - I know that I'll probably need to do some initial stuff first, and I also know that I can't focus myself enough to just think of an organization's name for the free office purchase, let alone actually doing any missions).

 

So yeah - the real issue here is that I don't even 'own' a bunker/cash factory yet, because I still didn't get through the initial stuff. But that said, when I do set my mind on something, I do it properly and thoroughly, more than a decade of achievement grinding and collectioneering in WoW and an actually diagnosed OCD case really get the gears working. That's pretty much the reason why I'm contemplating what to do with those 2.325m. If I end up deciding that I need to use the most out of the discounts, and then calculate the exact amount of money I'd ideally want to spend including the factory - then I'd sit and play for 24h straight if needed, doing the preparation stuff, including the bunker, the cash factory and whatever else is needed. I'm that sort of player, if you ever met the kind I'm sure you'd understand how and why I'm approaching things in games, especially those with a ton of stuff to do that backlogged over the years it exists.

 

 

But yeah - my main concern when it comes to not missing the discount week is Terrorbyte and that other... thing that seems crucial to DDH. If I researched correctly, I would definitely need those things, they aren't just some yachts, and it's not even like there are several options to choose from - I just would need those specific vehicles 100%, regardless of other choices. And when I know that I will need X eventually, and I have a chance to get it now, when I don't need it immediately, but get it with a discount, the pragmatic in me tells me it's definitely worth it (that's why I have 300+ games in my steam library, out of which I never launched at least 200, and it's not like I have the biggest half of my life remaining before me).

 

Sorry for the wall of text, I felt like I need to explain my situation a bit better.

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whywontyoulisten
58 minutes ago, Beatrice said:

 

You guys vastly overestimate my current level of involvement in the game.

So far, I have 7.1m$ saved from various promotions

You're still poor.

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SummerFreeze

OK, if you aren't *really* playing the game yet, and just want to make use of some good discounts, then I'd recommend buying a nightclub, the Terrorbyte, and the weapons + vehicle workshops for the Terrorbyte. I don't know which NC location to recommend though -- most of them are fine but you might want to avoid the cheapest one.

 

All other items on sale right now aren't really essential to new players. Those aren't rare discounts either except the 85% off yachts. But even at $1.5M a yacht is of little use.

 

I agree with @whywontyoulisten that the bunker is a great investment but if you're not using one yet then you might as well wait until they are put on sale.

 

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dieseltech20

Don’t waste your damn money on that stupid yacht. Maybe at a 95% discount, MAYBE. 

 

I started red playing in late 15 and spent my CMMC money on one of those things and have regretted it ever since. Aside from the occasional Piracy Prevention I never touch the damn thing. 

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Beatrice

So I ended up getting the 'free' Paleto Bay bunker just to see what's up. Somehow managed to not get killed while I transferred the 'tutorial' goods back home across the whole damn map. Following your advice I'm not upgrading anything, but again I'm looking at MOC, Avenger and Terrorbyte, all 3 on discounts, and not sure what to do next.

 

From my understanding, this is what I should do:

 

- Research which NC is best and buy it, do the required setup stuff

- Change the bunker to some better one

- Buy Terrorbyte and MOC? Or only Terrorbyte?

- Facility next, not sure whether it matters to get the 'same' as the bunker location

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Nightclub isn't much use to you. You need $millions to fully upgrade it, and $moremillions to buy all the businesses to feed it. As a property by itself it does nothing.

 

Terrorbyte, MOC, Avenger...all expensive inessential toys, or used to upgrade other expensive inessential toys. Apart from a handful of missions, you can do everything in regular businesses that you can in the Terrorbyte. Its only real use is for storing the Oppressor Mk2, which is a very long way off.

 

Facility...why are you so obsessed with this heap of crap? If you want to do Heists, then get a cheap High End apartment and start hosting the original ones. You do not have the money, weaponry, equipment, experience, or health to get anywhere in the Doomsday Heist, and after that the Facility is just a dead weight with daily charges. Location barely matters as you will 1- Not be able to achieve any of the Criminal Mastermind runs, and 2- will never go back there afterwards.

 

Bunker, bunker, bunker, bunker. Chumash or Farmhouse. Do it.

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With the Criminal Enterprise Starter Pack, you can produce weapons (bunker), cash, and cargo (if you buy the cheapest special cargo warehouse for $250k) right away. That's without having to actually use those businesses, only the NC.

 

You can also get the NC staff upgrade ($500k) and run a promotion mission every time your popularity falls to 75%, which will bring it back up to 100%. Going from 100% to 75% adds $44k to the vault over time.

 

With the Terrorbyte you can alternate between VIP work and TB client jobs for some very good money. Both these types of jobs and the NC popularity missions can be done in an Invite-Only session.

 

For most everything else you should look up how to create empty public session, so people don't blow you up while you do business missions. (Method depends on your platform.)

 

Only get the facility right now if you plan on running the Bogdan glitch. If you do, then other businesses become pretty much irrelevant.

Edited by SummerFreeze

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suicidal_banana

My 2 cents: ALWAYS get the upgrades, for all your businesses, it makes it so the chance of a raid by police or whatever group of npc's goes down or vanishes completely (depending on the company, all MC stuff can still get raided even after buying security, but ive never had issue with my bunker or nightclub for instance)

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