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metoxys

Testing different Inside Track (horse racing) betting strategies

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Shaundi.

Has anyone been kicked off the betting computer after backing out many times to refresh the horse list? This seems new and didn't happen yesterday or the day before. This is bullsh*t.

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mute!

All YouTube betting tip videos rendered useless :panic:

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Pedinhuh

Lol they're really into people looking to make money huh?

 

Though I won't say that this isn't surprising, it was too good to last for long...

 

Oh well...Back to Bogdan I go, I suppose.

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Shaundi.

The lengths Rockstar goes to to stop people making easy money. Very childish on their part. Reading this literally made me squint.

 

 

 

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jargonaut

Welp, this is new.

 

SaNCHbh.jpg

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Sentinel Driver

This is dumb

- first they make an exclusive currency for the casino

- items sold at the casino rotate weekly, are time limited

- you can only draw 50k chips every hour which isn't enough to buy the stuff you want

- if you want more chips you have to gamble

-now they're nerfing the only good ways to win with gambling because HURHURDURHUR HOUSE ALWAYS WINS XDDDDD YOU'RE AN IDIOT FOR PLAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD YOU LOSE!!!!!!!!!!

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jargonaut
1 minute ago, Sentinel Driver said:

This is dumb

- first they make an exclusive currency for the casino

- items sold at the casino rotate weekly, are time limited

- you can only draw 50k chips every hour which isn't enough to buy the stuff you want

- if you want more chips you have to gamble

-now they're nerfing the only good ways to win with gambling because HURHURDURHUR HOUSE ALWAYS WINS XDDDDD YOU'RE AN IDIOT FOR PLAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD YOU LOSE!!!!!!!!!!

I posted in another thread that they should at least change the chip re-buy system, for example to one million per 24h irl instead of this 50k/48min bs. This game is supposed to be Mature rated game, meaning 17 and up, meaning people who are likely to have lives, school, work, family etc. How are we to enjoy this dlc if buying stuff or just racking up enough chips to actually _gamble_ means we have to clock chip rebuys or write macros to do the rebuys for us. Total asshole design.

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SummerFreeze
49 minutes ago, Shaundi. said:

The lengths Rockstar goes to to stop people making easy money. Very childish on their part. Reading this literally made me squint.

How is it childish?

 

They realized they made a mistake and are correcting it.

 

No casino would run the original version of their horse betting game.

 

19 minutes ago, Sentinel Driver said:

This is dumb

- first they make an exclusive currency for the casino

- items sold at the casino rotate weekly, are time limited

- you can only draw 50k chips every hour which isn't enough to buy the stuff you want

- if you want more chips you have to gamble

-now they're nerfing the only good ways to win with gambling because HURHURDURHUR HOUSE ALWAYS WINS XDDDDD YOU'RE AN IDIOT FOR PLAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD YOU LOSE!!!!!!!!!!

You don't have to buy everything the first time it hits the store.

 

The stuff is going to become available again.

 

I've actually stopped buying floor pieces for now.

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kenmy13999
1 minute ago, SummerFreeze said:

 

You don't have to buy everything the first time it hits the store.

 

 

Says who? You? 😂

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SummerFreeze
1 minute ago, kenmy13999 said:

Says who? You? 😂

Rockstar, by limiting money to chip conversion and rotating store items.

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Aznknight
10 hours ago, CloudFuel said:

Took some time to track my results with the 4-1 / 5-1 approach. YMMV.

Number of bets: 100
Number of wins: 35
Win percentage: 35%

Amount per bet: $10,000
Total amount bet: $1,000,000
Amount won: $1,750,000
Total profit: $750,000

Does your table go left to right or down? 

 

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Sentinel Driver
50 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

How is it childish?

 

They realized they made a mistake and are correcting it.

 

No casino would run the original version of their horse betting game.

 

You don't have to buy everything the first time it hits the store.

 

The stuff is going to become available again.

 

I've actually stopped buying floor pieces for now.

 

No casino would run the original version of their horse betting game.

 

yeah and no one would go to a casino in underwear while wearing a pig mask and go air thrust in front of a security guard

 

but this is game, not real life

don't have to buy everything the first time it hits the store but what if I want to? Why does r* want to limit our ability to get chips so badly? 

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SummerFreeze
1 minute ago, Sentinel Driver said:

Why does r* want to limit our ability to get chips so badly? 

They know their audience.

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Mdc
2 hours ago, Pedinhuh said:

Lol they're really into people looking to make money huh?

 

Though I won't say that this isn't surprising, it was too good to last for long...

 

Oh well...Back to Bogdan I go, I suppose.

No not at all. Anybody looking to make money is doing it via dupe glitches. Or bogden as you say. They are looking to annoy collectors and make that rare stuff a little harder to get that's all. Anyone with a brain realises that the 50k casino chip purchase limit is there to make chips harder to obtain than money. A f*ck you to modded money players you could call it. You want it you still gotta grind to get everything its not really so bad

1 hour ago, Sentinel Driver said:

This is dumb

- first they make an exclusive currency for the casino

- items sold at the casino rotate weekly, are time limited

- you can only draw 50k chips every hour which isn't enough to buy the stuff you want

- if you want more chips you have to gamble

-now they're nerfing the only good ways to win with gambling because HURHURDURHUR HOUSE ALWAYS WINS XDDDDD YOU'RE AN IDIOT FOR PLAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD YOU LOSE!!!!!!!!!!

 

What's new? You want the stuff grind the glitch lol

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AlltsaVilkenSexigApa
Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, CloudFuel said:

Took some time to track my results with the 4-1 / 5-1 approach. YMMV.

Number of bets: 100
Number of wins: 35
Win percentage: 35%

Amount per bet: $10,000
Total amount bet: $1,000,000
Amount won: $1,750,000
Total profit: $750,000

Awesome, thanks for the data! Even though 100 entries isn't optimal for calculating probability long term I used your data to verify my strategy, here are the results: 

Jh6pWL5.png

 

Edited by AlltsaVilkenSexigApa

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Pedinhuh
18 minutes ago, Mdc said:

They are looking to annoy collectors and make that rare stuff a little harder to get that's all.

If thats the case then they would have to patch the glitch that allows us to close the game before the Wheel hits the "vehicle" or "Mystery".

 

But as even Fun himself already said: They can't.

 

They did patch the storing glitch that allowed us to store TLMC Slamvan though, so maybe they just want to piss us off too

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Mdc
3 minutes ago, Pedinhuh said:

If thats the case then they would have to patch the glitch that allows us to close the game before the Wheel hits the "vehicle" or "Mystery".

 

But as even Fun himself already said: They can't.

 

They did patch the storing glitch that allowed us to store TLMC Slamvan though, so maybe they just want to piss us off too

Just evidence of what I said is it not? The thrax wasn't a rare vehicle as you could buy it. The slamvan is rare and the odds of winning that via mystery are already out there. 

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GTK0HLK

i dont see no reason for that kind of conversation.., all it chalks up to.., is that one side is uncaring of the other.., and others one way or another.., have gotten quite disappointed int he direction the game has gotten in key aspects.., (one aspect being, imo, that the game has no direction.., and due to the money, one random direction is slapped on it, every single time a dlc is released.., partly cause they cant rebuild/change the game at all-anymore.., i hope online for VI will actually have been built better, unfortunate the -cash-grab will still be there)

 

only other question to ask.., is there away to still make a consistent profit, or not at all.., that wont get a spot light on it.., R* will go tooth and nail to have profit.., but many of the community deserve earnings.., there is fun.., but most of it is in fairness.., R* kicked that to the curb.., (i really hope the other parts of the casino dont shut down in user use.., cause it wont be the Duggans, but R*/T2)

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Mdc
5 minutes ago, GTK0HLK said:

i dont see no reason for that kind of conversation.., all it chalks up to.., is that one side is uncaring of the other.., and others one way or another.., have gotten quite disappointed int he direction the game has gotten in key aspects.., (one aspect being, imo, that the game has no direction.., and due to the money, one random direction is slapped on it, every single time a dlc is released.., partly cause they cant rebuild/change the game at all-anymore.., i hope online for VI will actually have been built better, unfortunate the -cash-grab will still be there)

 

only other question to ask.., is there away to still make a consistent profit, or not at all.., that wont get a spot light on it.., R* will go tooth and nail to have profit.., but many of the community deserve earnings.., there is fun.., but most of it is in fairness.., R* kicked that to the curb.., (i really hope the other parts of the casino dont shut down in user use.., cause it wont be the Duggans, but R*/T2)

Lol u want consistant profit go do bogden with a friend. Its that mentality that has drove rockstar to create a new currency that is harder to earn. I think the game is hilarious as a whole. It keeps people on their toes to take any little advantage they can get. It's not so much different to real life, is it? Only the nieve cry that it's so unfair.

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Fun 2
Posted (edited)
17 hours ago, Shaundi. said:

If only this stuff stayed low-key on reddit, this forum and other forums, horse 1 with 4/1 or 3/1 odds winning 100% of the time would always happen, instead garbage youtubers announce this like a baby gender reveal on a rooftop for everyone to see and hear, including Rockstar.

 

GTA youtubers are lowest of the low, worse than CoD, Overwatch, Fallout and Cyberpunk 2077 youtubers combined.

Surprise Surprise, R* check this forum and other forums too.

There's no such thing as "low-key" once you publish it to public.

R* devs themselves play the update on launch day, it doesn't take a genius to figure out "oh look, I can change the odds of the horses just by backing out"

Edited by Fun 2

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GTK0HLK
Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, Mdc said:

Lol u want consistant profit go do bogden with a friend. Its that mentality that has drove rockstar to create a new currency that is harder to earn. I think the game is hilarious as a whole. It keeps people on their toes to take any little advantage they can get. It's not so much different to real life, is it? Only the nieve cry that it's so unfair.

when did i ever say i wanted the game easier.., not once.., i wanted fairness and not underhandedness.., like having a lower chance on the horse you bet on.., and R* should of accepted their losses on those that won those races, instead of removing from them..,

 

im one for difficulty.., but the game has lost most of it.., the grind is still there.., i get some feeling from achievement.., but there is no sense of progression any more, the game lacks many things..,

but this is the last ill say of that here..,

 

specially since i said: "i dont see no reason for that kind of conversation..," then gave my opinion.., and left it at.., the important thing why this thread exists.., to make fun, and profit from the horse races.., strategies.., even if most of the time there will be loses, there will still be the game.., but since fairness is lacking.., i fear horse racing may die.., leaving mostly.., one part of the casino dead(except for those that dont know the numbers, or know enough, or like it cause of the added challenged of unfairness.., to each their own..,) 

 

thank you for misinterpreting another player as one of those who likes things being easy..,

 

(edit: know what, ill give you a like.., just for that..,)

Edited by GTK0HLK
you decided..,

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LennyGhoul
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Shaundi. said:

The lengths Rockstar goes to to stop people making easy money. Very childish on their part. Reading this literally made me squint.

 

 

 

Oh no people were legitimately winning! We can't have that... 

46 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

Surprise Surprise, R* check this forum and other forums too.

There's no such thing as "low-key" once you publish it to public.

R* devs themselves play the update on launch day, it doesn't take a genius to figure out "oh look, I can change the odds of the horses just by backing out"

Maybe if they played it before launch day they wouldn't use it's player base as beta testers... Just saying. 

Edited by LennyGhoul

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Mdc
Posted (edited)
31 minutes ago, GTK0HLK said:

when did i ever say i wanted the game easier.., not once.., i wanted fairness and not underhandedness.., like having a lower chance on the horse you bet on.., and R* should of accepted their losses on those that won those races, instead of removing from them..,

 

im one for difficulty.., but the game has lost most of it.., the grind is still there.., i get some feeling from achievement.., but there is no sense of progression any more, the game lacks many things..,

but this is the last ill say of that here..,

 

specially since i said: "i dont see no reason for that kind of conversation..," then gave my opinion.., and left it at.., the important thing why this thread exists.., to make fun, and profit from the horse races.., strategies.., even if most of the time there will be loses, there will still be the game.., but since fairness is lacking.., i fear horse racing may die.., leaving mostly.., one part of the casino dead(except for those that dont know the numbers, or know enough, or like it cause of the added challenged of unfairness.., to each their own..,) 

 

thank you for misinterpreting another player as one of those who likes things being easy..,

 

(edit: know what, ill give you a like.., just for that..,)

You miss my point. What's underhanded about changing the game? You can't have it both ways. Gambling in a game vs gambling real life. You expect in a game it should be fair but in real life they change the odds before the race. Just what rockstar have done. It's nonsense. Step outside and tell me it's all fair

 

Outside the game I mean. It wasn't a threat

Edited by Mdc

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kenmy13999
45 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

it doesn't take a genius to figure out "oh look, I can change the odds of the horses just by backing out"

Was it really necessary to ruin my self-esteem when I finally thought I had become a genius 😉

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gtmike

Well they didn't patch the actual glitch so I'm glad for that. I haven't had any problems resetting the odds yet either.

 

Hilarious how Rockstar trolls people who try to play their games legit.

 

29 minutes ago, GTK0HLK said:

.., but since fairness is lacking.., i fear horse racing may die.., leaving mostly.., one part of the casino dead

 Lol thanks for that, funniest sh*t I've read all day. The whole casino will be dead in a month so I wouldn't spend your time worrying....

 

46 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

Surprise Surprise, R* check this forum and other forums too.

There's no such thing as "low-key" once you publish it to public.

R* devs themselves play the update on launch day, it doesn't take a genius to figure out "oh look, I can change the odds of the horses just by backing out"

So true, gotta love these weirdos blaming everything on Youtubers like Rockstar never heard of Reddit....

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LennyGhoul

I'm sure the Black Jack won't be fixed tho... since that one is totally broken in their favor. 

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Fun 2
40 minutes ago, LennyGhoul said:

Maybe if they played it before launch day they wouldn't use it's player base as beta testers... Just saying. 

Maybe if you understand game development, you won't be saying this.

Bugs happen all the time but we don't know how many there were before the update went live, we don't know how many bugs their beta testers faced just for you to call us the players "beta testers".

Also, R* was planning to release the update late June, but it was pushed back all the way up to late July and the community gets disappointed every time they find out the update is a week or two away.

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Mdc
2 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

Maybe if you understand game development, you won't be saying this.

Bugs happen all the time but we don't know how many there were before the update went live, we don't know how many bugs their beta testers faced just for you to call us the players "beta testers".

Also, R* was planning to release the update late June, but it was pushed back all the way up to late July and the community gets disappointed every time they find out the update is a week or two away.

It's all good man. The chips are real now. The crybabies are crying. The tryhards lost the passive pop. The collectors have their slamvan. Big up rockstar most interesting update in a while. 

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CloudFuel

I don't understand why R* is concerned about whether or not we "re-roll" for specific odds. In real life, I can choose which race I want to bet on, so it's not like there isn't precedence for this sort of thing.

I would just expect R* to be far more concerned with the glitch (betting $200 vs $10,000) and resolving that.

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AUScowboy

I wonder if these casino exploits will be enough for R* to adjust accounts or issue bans?

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