What from GTAO, would you like to bring over to RDO?

[éX-Driver]

9 minutes ago, -LN- said:

You're right; the roads, or should I say paths, would not support a car from that time period. It's mostly one lane trails and if those cars were to drive off "road", they'd likely not last very long. I can see people now trying to drive them through Ambarino and getting stuck in the snow or falling off the edge of the mountain. It just wouldn't work and is probably best to keep the modes of transportation they way they are with horses and the like.

 

 

Edited July 30, 2019 by éX-Driver

[Stupidis]

19 minutes ago, -LN- said:

I'm very opposed to them adding weaponized wagons as well. Though definitely more common in a sense, I hate to think of what they might do to the state of the game. A supply wagon would be great, but nothing that can be used to encourage griefing.

 

[Lonely-Martin]

Yeah, as I said, not too keen on cars coming to RDRO.

 

But the argument of immersion or it breaking reality isn't enough to say no, we've got those ability cards after all, and I don't remember reading many cowboys and girls rushing to buy a hat so they can survive headshots back in the day.

Edited July 30, 2019 by Lonely-Martin
Lobby choice would solve it though. Add cars and invite only. Let us play our West. :)

[-LN-]

3 minutes ago, éX-Driver said:

 

Ok, but that's from the 20s. A car from 1898 would be more like this:

 

I just can't see those having the same capabilities.

 

5 minutes ago, Stupidis said:

 

Lol! Please, god, no.

[CMCSAVAGE]

7 minutes ago, éX-Driver said:

 If I want to own something that was readily available to the people with the means to own them in that time period, why shouldn’t I be allowed to? Because it won’t be good to look at for YOU?

 

And who are you to tell me not to have fun how I want.

Let's get the "bold" part out of the way first. I really don't give a fk how you have fun and didn't say anything to the contrary.

 

Just because cars were being manufactured during that time, still doesn't make it realistic for them to be purchased or even be in the game. It has nothing to do with what I think looks good, but rather what would be period correct.

 

Just because you have $10k (I have $30k), doesn't change the game dynamics or who we are. We're cowboys and gunslingers, we wouldn't have the means to own one, regardless of how much in game money we have.

 

If cars were as popular as you think they were at the time, ("Cars have existed since 1886, and have been common enough to be purchasable by the upper classes since 1895.")  why is it that we don't see any, at least as a static object? Shouldn't there be some parked outside those big homes in Saint Denis?

 

 

[Leftover Pizza]

Cars around that time had less speed than a horse, so they would be quite useless and be very easy to kill players in, even with @ALifeOfMisery's aiming skills  

 

I hope they won't go there and am quite confident they avoid the efforts of creating a dealership and service points in the current world. They'd have to create additional storage too. Can't store a car at a stable.

 

 

[ALifeOfMisery]

3 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

Cars around that time had less speed than a horse, so they would be quite useless and be very easy to kill players in, even with @ALifeOfMisery's aiming skills  

Lol. I don't know, I still think they'd have to park up and light a cigar before I could get a clean shot on them.

[AmyStone]

51 minutes ago, éX-Driver said:

 

 

And how long do you realistically expect a car to last going over that kind of terrain? OK, fine. You have your car. I'll stick with the more practical horse.

[ALifeOfMisery]

I don't think they'll be added but I'm not completely against period authentic vehicles being added.

 

They'd be extremely limited in their usefulness in general, off road they would be awful and they would be a worse choice overall that a horse. If players wanted to put themselves at a disadvantage or simply own one as a collector's piece, eh, why not.

 

Driving one would be like wearing a bullseye though. I'd defy anyone to drive for longer than 5 minutes in a town before getting hit with a dynamite arrow.

Edited July 30, 2019 by ALifeOfMisery

[The Dedito Gae]

On 7/28/2019 at 11:47 PM, Leftover Pizza said:

What from GTAO, would you like to bring over to RDO?

The constant updates.

[AmyStone]

13 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I'd defy anyone to drive for longer than 5 minutes in a town before getting hit with a dynamite arrow.

I'd be very tempted.

[Danish Crusader]

1 minute ago, AmyStone said:

I'd be very tempted.

"I wonder if the wheels will blow off?... Oh they did... Hey, let's try and only get 2 wheels off next time and see if it will still drive!"

 

Yeah, I am already making plans =D

[CosmicBuffalo]

Planes, no question, I think flight will be added to online.

[1898]

The GTA events like land splitting, parachuting from the highest height etc. take place in a live map from where ever you happen to be at the time. That's how I'd like to see hunting and fishing competitions. Yeah, you might get greifed, but I'd rather take that chance than have everyone fishing in a barrel or hunting the same 1/2 acre.

 

As for vehicles, I ride IRL and love vintage bikes but they would seem out of place here. Instead, I'd love to see a Prohibition Era game and all the cars and bikes from that period. But if they offer them in RDRO, I will be one of the first at the dealer.

 

 

[ALifeOfMisery]

14 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said:

Planes, no question, I think flight will be added to online.

I wouldn't be against either owning a hot air balloon or being able to pay to use one.

[AmyStone]

6 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I wouldn't be against either owning a hot air balloon or being able to pay to use one.

Sweet. More stuff to shoot at.

[XxJazzy42xX]

20 minutes ago, AmyStone said:

Sweet. More stuff to shoot at.

Uh.........Yeah it'd be hard to resist shooting down a hot air balloon and I'm not someone who goes looking for trouble unless I have some kind of virtual bloodlust going on which isn't often

Edited July 30, 2019 by XxJazzy42xX

[Kremita]

3 hours ago, -LN- said:

Ok, but that's from the 20s. A car from 1898 would be more like this:

 

I just can't see those having the same capabilities.

 

Lol! Please, god, no.

Imagine the MK2 of this. Will probably be a Pegasus...

[-LN-]

22 minutes ago, QAnon said:

Imagine the MK2 of this. Will probably be a Pegasus...

Here it is:

 

 

This was actually built in the UK in 1898.

[ALifeOfMisery]

2 minutes ago, -LN- said:

Here it is:

 

 

This was actually built in the UK in 1898.

[Leftover Pizza]

2 hours ago, XxJazzy42xX said:

Uh.........Yeah it'd be hard to resist shooting down a hot air balloon and I'm not someone who goes looking for trouble unless I have some kind of virtual bloodlust going on which isn't often

 

Oh yeah. It's gonna be really hard resisting when a big slow moving "Please Shoot Me Down" sign is floating above my common sense level in this game. 

[Leftover Pizza]

4 hours ago, Stupidis said:

Opressor Mk II.

 

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Just kidding!   One thing I'd like is the wardrobe and the possibility to save more than three outfits. I can get that you can't store that much on the horse. But in our camp and at wardrobes it should be an option.

 

 

I really don't see why you can't store 10 outfits on your horse, while you can stuff tons of meat, dead animals, skins, food cans, bottles of rum/whisky, stacks of herbs, cookies, fishing lure, a fishing pole, binoculars, 600 rounds of ammo and more in a satchel you can't even see. 

[DentureDynamite]

3 hours ago, AmyStone said:

Sweet. More stuff to shoot at.

You mean like this?

 

 

[Stupidis]

1 hour ago, Leftover Pizza said:

 

I really don't see why you can't store 10 outfits on your horse, while you can stuff tons of meat, dead animals, skins, food cans, bottles of rum/whisky, stacks of herbs, cookies, fishing lure, a fishing pole, binoculars, 600 rounds of ammo and more in a satchel you can't even see. 

 

That's a valid point.

[Leftover Pizza]

The invisible satchel seems fridgerated too. Raw meat and dead fish don't rot inside it. Reality in the game stops when you respawn after being killed already.

Edited July 30, 2019 by Leftover Pizza

[éX-Driver]

8 hours ago, -LN- said:

As Ok, but that's from the 20s. A car from 1898 would be more like this:

 

I just can't see those having the same capabilities.

 

Lol! Please, god, no.

The model T first went on sale in 1908, and remained virtually unchanged for the rest of its lifespan. It was not dramatically different from the cars that came before it, and was only popular because it was cheap. Motorcycles were an option as well:

https://www.motosport.com/blog/the-evolution-of-the-motorcycle-part-three-the-first-american-motorcycles

 

8 hours ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

Let's get the "bold" part out of the way first. I really don't give a fk how you have fun and didn't say anything to the contrary.

 

Just because cars were being manufactured during that time, still doesn't make it realistic for them to be purchased or even be in the game. It has nothing to do with what I think looks good, but rather what would be period correct.

 

Just because you have $10k (I have $30k), doesn't change the game dynamics or who we are. We're cowboys and gunslingers, we wouldn't have the means to own one, regardless of how much in game money we have.

 

If cars were as popular as you think they were at the time, ("Cars have existed since 1886, and have been common enough to be purchasable by the upper classes since 1895.")  why is it that we don't see any, at least as a static object? Shouldn't there be some parked outside those big homes in Saint Denis?

 

 

Clearly you did, considering this thread was simply asking what we’d LIKE to see in Red Dead and you took it upon yourself to tell me what I wanted to see didn’t fit your vision of what the game should have. If you didn’t give a sh*t, you would’ve kept your mouth shut. But you didn’t, and here we are.

 

“Realistic” “period correct” motor cars are both for 1898. The reason cars weren’t popular in the old west was because they were expensive and there was no infrastructure to maintain them. Think: electric cars now. If someone had the means and the will to own one, they would. I in-game have both. So why couldn’t my character have a car brought in from San Francisco or St Louis or Denver, all nearby cities with a thriving motor industry at the time? ‘We wouldn’t have the means to own one’ is a terrible excuse and you know it. Just look at the sh*t we’ve been able to do and own despite being criminals in GTAO since day one. There’s plenty of ahistorical stuff in the game already. Animals well out of their natural ranges, bison were basically extinct in 1899 and you wouldn’t see them in the wild, weird geography, European imported guns you wouldn’t see in the west. Being allowed to openly carry guns in towns and especially in cities, which is something most small towns disallowed by the 1890s precisely because of bandits going around breaking the law. 

 

I question that as well. The same question goes for bicycles. In the 1890s, bicycles were a HUGE international fad. Every major city you’d see thousands of them. Yet we don’t see a single one in-game for whatever reason. In 1900, the New York-New Jersey area alone had something like 30 different automobile manufacturers.

7 hours ago, AmyStone said:

And how long do you realistically expect a car to last going over that kind of terrain? OK, fine. You have your car. I'll stick with the more practical horse.

That’s the thing. as was pointed out in an earlier post, there really were no real roads outside of cities. Cars HAD to be designed to handle rough terrain, because that’s all that was available. Why do you think they have such tall ride heights and wide wheel tracks? It’s so they could clear snow and mud without getting stuck. They were also dog simple to repair, because they had to be. It it broke down in the wilderness, you had to be able to fix it yourself. And before you say “it’s unrealistic to be able to repair it in the wild in-game”, it’s also unrealistic to heal our horse with just an injection of something after we ride it off a cliff and shatter its legs. Cars back then were designed for the environment they’d be operated in, just as they are now. 

And ultimately that’s what they’d end up being. Impractical showcases for our wealth and status. You know, what they were in reality at the time. The vast majority of players would just ride a horse. So there, everybody wins. I get my impractical finnicky car that I stubbornly refuse to not drive, and the other 99% of players just ride their horses and only take their car out to show how much money they have. Just like the expensive unweaponised aircraft in GTAO.

[drizzi_b]

I always enjoyed the businesses in GTAO, and would like something along those lines that you build up over time

[CosmicBuffalo]

The player menu  without kd.  I want to see other people and judge them into oblivion.  The creator. Use votes and then a Q&A committee (player volunteers) to choose which ones are promoted.    I would like a way to in game message, ravens or pigeons or something.  Did I mention aircraft....a hot air ballon would be great, just make it able to be full of holes and still float.  I want to the see the map from above and create some havoc from above as well.

Edited July 30, 2019 by CosmicBuffalo

[GazzaRichNUFC]

Blackjack.

[Gleeman Vox]

Other way around, but I think that since GTA’s gunplay is so f*cking awful (especially on console) that we need ability cards on GTA

Edited July 31, 2019 by Gleeman Vox