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flysky578

New aim problems against opressor mkII

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flysky578
Posted (edited)

As I had the thought before after a few encounter with mkII, that we cant auto aim anymore with bst on mkII since the Update..

 

Yesterday I tested it and indeed you cant auto aim anymore while on foot on a mk2 with rifles(regardless of bst) from the front, only from a certain point from the side and the back and even than its when the mk2 move...luck to hold the aim.

 

Basically MkII spammers can now farm direct kills and we cant auto aim at them anymore, only free aim ...while they are in a safe distance...

 

First the savage now this..griefing easier than ever ridiculous gg r*

 

Works not ps_messages_20190728_pvksm.jpg

 

Works

 

https://abload.de/img/20190728_170617pnkdi.jpg

 

https://abload.de/img/20190728_17063706ku7.jpg

Edited by flysky578

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7enas

I think it's a bug, like with akula. You can't lock-on with homing too, unless nobody is sitting on mkII.

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Big Molio

The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away...

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BOOGIEMAN219

I have shot a few off with the bullpop rifle mkll with normal ammo since the update but it seems the combat mg is worthless against them now sadly.

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flysky578
1 hour ago, BOOGIEMAN219 said:

I have shot a few off with the bullpop rifle mkll with normal ammo since the update but it seems the combat mg is worthless against them now sadly.

I had it with the heavy revolver, mkII MG and special carbine

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Arrows to Athens

I've noticed that I can lock onto them only sometimes. A stranger bug, indeed. It's made it easier for Mk2 users to grief players on ground.

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White Shark

I think the complete removal of the Op MKII is long overdue.

 

If Rockstar can't nerf it, whilst it's existence continues to cause it to have performance-improving bugs, it's time to cut losses and remove it from the game.  Just refund all owners the full price of the thing and be done with it.  Allow the Terrorbyte to store any other motorcycle or Thruster.

 

Solved.

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Pumpkin Zone
Posted (edited)

I too think there seems to just be a general lock-on bug with anyone riding the OpMkII. I recall on the first day of the casino update I attempted to lock onto a griefing player near the entrance way and I just couldn't do it and I thought something was wrong with me since I had been playing RDRII so much. I was on foot just using an assault rifle as well.

Edited by Pumpkin Zone

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bombkangaroo
7 minutes ago, White Shark said:

I think the complete removal of the Op MKII is long overdue.

 

If Rockstar can't nerf it, whilst it's existence continues to cause it to have performance-improving bugs, it's time to cut losses and remove it from the game.  Just refund all owners the full price of the thing and be done with it.  Allow the Terrorbyte to store any other motorcycle or Thruster.

 

Solved.

This TBH. (along with A LOT of other things) I might actually care about the dripfeed cars, much the same as the Arena Wars verhicles*, if they weren't rendered worthless by the existence of [vehicles like] the OPMkII. (*which are really cool, and I'd buy them, maybe even go to the effort of getting the trade price, if it wasn't for the ubiquity of Jets and vehicles with homing missiles) Outside of races, which I'm reticent to take part in because of all the loading screens and waiting for players to ready up and vote, what could I feasibly do with them, except for make myself an easy target for OPMkIIs? 

 

I really appreciate the non-military nature of the recent updates, but they're no good to us if Rockstar don't roll back a lot of the military stuff, or at least send it off into its own game mode, away from the crime-game* that I would like to be able to play. (*meaning a game that revolves predominantly around driving and shooting, rather than getting spawn-raped by a Jet, or trying to swat all the OPMkIIs buzzing around)

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KSI_IS_STUPID_

f*cking hell another bug with this broomstick, yeah rockstar definitely are excessively obsessed with this ratbike!

I think they intentionally buffed it..

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Pedinhuh
Posted (edited)

So far I can lock on it while it's airborne, but it doesn't "last" like it used to before the update, I used to lock on and get about 10 from 20 bullets on the rider...Now I get 5 on them before the lock breaks, if much.

 

And it's not my aiming preference, which is full-lock auto aim.

 

I can adapt to this by using my Heavy Revolver Mk2 with incendiary bullets, but only if the Mk2 is not the riders favorite bike...Otherwise I'll be struggling a lot to fend them off.

 

Is the change only on this bike, or its all the other bikes???

 

Because maybe it's a QoL change to make bike riders ride in more peace?

Edited by Pedinhuh

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Pedinhuh

I rode into a "hot zone" right now with my Hakuchou Drag, and it took a considerable amount of time but the tryhards did shot me off my bike.

 

This is very intriguing and needs further testing.

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Amy Vinewood
6 hours ago, White Shark said:

I think the complete removal of the Op MKII is long overdue.

 

If Rockstar can't nerf it, whilst it's existence continues to cause it to have performance-improving bugs, it's time to cut losses and remove it from the game.  Just refund all owners the full price of the thing and be done with it.  Allow the Terrorbyte to store any other motorcycle or Thruster.

 

Solved.

R* not nerfing it just made me hate it all the more. That said I did use it to get the 54 playing cards, but I felt dirty afterwords and had to take a shower. They don't make water hot enough to wash that away.

 

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The Wandering Hunter

opmk2 doesn’t need removing, just its weapons.

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White Shark
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, The Wandering Hunter said:

opmk2 doesn’t need removing, just its weapons.

If they reduced the missiles to Buzzard standard and removed countermeasures except for smoke, I'd be happy. And I say this as a user of the MKII, as it is a useful vehicle for grinding and missions.

 

It is interesting that it appears to have effected all motorcycles though (even though the MKII is hardly an mc). But then I play free aim so the effect means little to me anyway.

Edited by White Shark

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YELLOW DOG WITH CONE
2 hours ago, Amy Vinewood said:

R* not nerfing it just made me hate it all the more. That said I did use it to get the 54 playing cards, but I felt dirty afterwords and had to take a shower. They don't make water hot enough to wash that away.

 

I used my trusty Thruster instead, no shower needed afterwards.

 

On topic, as much as I wouldn't put R* above stealth buffing this thing, this seems more like a bug, seeing how it seems to affect other bikes too.

 

Now, will R* pull a hotfix or we'll have to deal with this bullsh*t from here to December to the very least?

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Taterman
2 hours ago, Amy Vinewood said:

R* not nerfing it just made me hate it all the more. That said I did use it to get the 54 playing cards, but I felt dirty afterwords and had to take a shower. They don't make water hot enough to wash that away.

 

Do you happen to have map showing all the locations?

 

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Amy Vinewood
2 minutes ago, Taterman said:

Do you happen to have map showing all the locations?

 

Yes, this is the one I used

 

Spoiler

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Taterman
8 minutes ago, Amy Vinewood said:

Yes, this is the one I used

 

  Hide contents

 

 

 

Cool!!! Thanks.

 

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Amy Vinewood
2 minutes ago, Taterman said:

 

Cool!!! Thanks.

 

Your welcome ( :

And what I did to make it a bit easier and so I didn't forget, I opened that map up in Ms Paint and put a X on the spots I found as I went

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Taterman
2 minutes ago, Amy Vinewood said:

Your welcome ( :

And what I did to make it a bit easier and so I didn't forget, I opened that map up in Ms Paint and put a X on the spots I found as I went

Good idea. I'm hoping to print out the map and mark it, but if that doesn't work, your idea will.

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Talisman_83
4 hours ago, White Shark said:

If they reduced the missiles to Buzzard standard and removed countermeasures except for smoke, I'd be happy. And I say this as a user of the MKII, as it is a useful vehicle for grinding and missions.

 

It is interesting that it appears to have effected all motorcycles though (even though the MKII is hardly an mc). But then I play free aim so the effect means little to me anyway.

The problem is people freeaiming missiles at ground players, especially now that you can't auto-aim them (or consistently, at least)

As long as that thing has missiles in any shape or form, it'll be a nuisance.

Remove all weapons or remove the f*cking thing from the game.

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HopalongCasidy

The most effective thing against the broomstick is the atomizer.  

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White Shark
1 hour ago, HopalongCasidy said:

The most effective thing against the broomstick is the atomizer.  

Which takes a hell of a lot of luck to land a hit.

1 hour ago, Talisman_83 said:

The problem is people freeaiming missiles at ground players, especially now that you can't auto-aim them (or consistently, at least)

As long as that thing has missiles in any shape or form, it'll be a nuisance.

Remove all weapons or remove the f*cking thing from the game.

Remove missiles.

 

Leave the peashooter guns and even the explosive cannons on it are fine as it requires a considerable amount of aiming to land shots.

 

Thing should never have had missiles to begin with, especially Vigilante style missiles.

 

Madness.

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YELLOW DOG WITH CONE
2 hours ago, Talisman_83 said:

The problem is people freeaiming missiles at ground players, especially now that you can't auto-aim them (or consistently, at least)

As long as that thing has missiles in any shape or form, it'll be a nuisance.

Remove all weapons or remove the f*cking thing from the game.

Freeaiming missiles will always be a problem as long as the missile's blast radius in this game always kill you no matter how far you are from the blast.

 

The funny thing is that the reason why explosives in this gane don't have any damage falloff is because R* forgot to add it. You add it back and this happens:

 

GIF made by @Gaffa

 

So yeah, before removing any missiles from the game, it would be better if they "nerfed" them by actually fixing them to how they should work in the first place.

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The FoolYT

They should just removing the locking on to players aspect and problem solved. 

They can still wack NPCs but no longer can wack other players with no effort. Still retain their use this way but not horrendsouly overpowered in PvP combat

 

Btw, I was playing with my friend in a insurgent pickup and that thing slaps oppressors and deluxos for days. We were constantly baiting them and i had proximity mines installed as well as a good gunner so we slaughtered them. Only time we actually died is when three of them were in a MC and kept recalling their bike in which was odd. It might be a good/fun idea if you have another player to roll in a insurgent pickup as it takes roughly 27 rockets to kill and you can generally kill them within a few hits

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Gaffa

Reminds me I need to make videos of all the other various testing I've done, just been hammered with stuff recently. :/ 

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YELLOW DOG WITH CONE
13 minutes ago, Gaffa said:

Reminds me I need to make videos of all the other various testing I've done, just been hammered with stuff recently. :/ 

Don't worry man, take your time, it's okay :)

 

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Dr.Rosenthal
15 hours ago, White Shark said:

I think the complete removal of the Op MKII is long overdue.

 

If Rockstar can't nerf it, whilst it's existence continues to cause it to have performance-improving bugs, it's time to cut losses and remove it from the game.  Just refund all owners the full price of the thing and be done with it.  Allow the Terrorbyte to store any other motorcycle or Thruster.

 

Solved.

 

+1

 

What I find most disappointing about the Mk2 is that it renders pretty much all other military vehicles obsolete. I’m all for Half-tracks, APC’s, Hunters, Akulas, even Khanjalis or jets, but the balance of this game is so fubar atm that none of them really matter.

 

They should all receive nerfs/buffs to make the playing field more interesting. I’d like to let my troops set foot using a Valkyrie to drop them off, but wait - there’s a Mk2 there - screw it, we’ll all just zoom in on Mk2’s then.

 

☹️

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Happy Hunter

Don't know why they insist on pandering to the broomstick boys/people who use it to try grief. They're nearly always so stupid they still get outplayed anyway. Trying to put someone like that on top via all these stealth buffs and hand-holding just isn't going to work. All they're doing is dumbing the people down more and more.

 

The aircraft people will always beat them no matter how much they're discriminated against.

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