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José_Sócrates

Is GTA Online canon to the HD universe?

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José_Sócrates

Or is it an alternate timeline or some sh*t? I ask because some things don't add up with the story of V, plus if GTA Online was canon, one of the endings in V would have to be canon (ending a is not canon, if I'm not mistaken), which means that GTA VI story could mention those events in the story, plus it would be really sh*tty for players who made another choice. Also, how is the futuristic stuff and others going to be explained in the next game?

What do you think, is GTA Online canon or not?

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GrudgefromSanAndreas
Posted (edited)

No it's fujifilm

 

Srsly tho i think due to online being a mess in every sense of the word, probably even r* themselves don't know if it's canon or not

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GTA-Biker

I'm guessing it's something like an alternate timeline.I personally consider it canon until Import/Export DLC,before that GTA Online was still at least somewhat serious,but then in Import/Export we started getting a bunch of mememobiles and futuristic stuff (flip car, KITT, rocket car, in later DLCs flying bikes, flying Delorean, Batmobile, those sci-fi guns, evil supercomputer with an army of invisible juggernauts from Doomday Heist, and similar stuff),though I'm not sure should more realistic and serious recent DLCs like After Hours and Diamond Casino be considered canon or not.

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Nintendo Thong Tuna

There is a story to online and all but like with most multiplayer versions of established single player games I treat it separately.

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tranceking26

I'd say it takes it's own path. IV into V into 6? will be canon.

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DOUGL4S1
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I think it stopped being canon around the time it moved to Xbox One/PS4, when they started adding more futuristic/sci-fi-esque vehicles and weapons, and some other stuff like floating stunt tracks and military bunkers.

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Rhoda

As far as I know, it was canon. Don't hold me to this but I did read somewhere early on that the events of Online take place some months before V's storyline. Obviously this timeline is floating, because many many months have passed since and we seem to have taken a diversion into flying motorcycles and casinos that are curiously absent in offline play. There's also one reference Lester makes to your online character during the diamond heist planning, and cites you as "unpredictable". I'm not sure if there are any more references, but it's a neat bit of lore considering Online was a way off at that point, even if you were playing casually and took your time during missions.

 

The way time works in the Grand Theft Auto world is a little nutty anyway - the radio is an endless cycle, the pedestrians loop dialogue and there's two seconds for every minute. We're definitely caught in a loop.

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Legion of Hell

The only thing that I'm sure is that Online confirms the Option C is the canonical ending

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billiejoearmstrong8
Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Legion of Hell said:

The only thing that I'm sure is that Online confirms the Option C is the canonical ending

To me this instead points more to Online not being canon, since creating three different endings but only one of them being canon is utterly pointless and defeats the entire purpose of giving you the choice. Also if I have a saved game where I picked option A or B that save and that version of events still exists with Michael or Trevor dead in it. So I think above all else the three endings have to be considered canon.

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universetwisters
2 hours ago, Legion of Hell said:

The only thing that I'm sure is that Online confirms the Option C is the canonical ending

 

Yea man you gotta kill Michael or else some guy is gonna make a computer that tries to destroy the world or some dumb sh*t like that

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Tao Cheng

Now that's what I call canon 69!

 

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It's common sense to know which parts are canon and some that are just there to add gameplay value. It is kind of messy with the game starting off events before GTAV and jumping into 2017 and forward. Since you're intrigued about GTAVI explaining futuristic stuff, I'm sure they'll find a clever way. I wonder myself how they're going to make the GTA Online character start from scratch considering these intense empires you've built over the years.

 

Off topic, I wish they confirmed the ending for IV.

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I'd be disappointed if it's the one where Roman lives because the results were anticlimatic. Then again I have no problem with the 95% of the people that chose Revenge and push people into thinking that's THE ending.

 

22 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

 

Yea man you gotta kill Michael or else some guy is gonna make a computer that tries to destroy the world or some dumb sh*t like that

Wish this ending was canon but execution sucked. Franklin was out of character and I don't think he would take orders from a clown to kill his mentor.

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billiejoearmstrong8
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Tao Cheng said:

 

 

 

Off topic, I wish they confirmed the ending for IV.

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I'd be disappointed if it's the one where Roman lives because the results were anticlimatic. Then again I have no problem with the 95% of the people that chose Revenge and push people into thinking that's THE ending.

 

 

Some people believe they did confirm it in V because..

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if you look at Jimmy's laptop when he's sitting at the dining table it shows Niko's Lifeinvader page, including a post from him wishing Roman a happy birthday, Roman listed as a friend, and his occupation listed as driver at Bellic Cab Service. This would suggest that Roman is alive and still running the cab company. However imo it doesn't confirm it 100%, since people do sometimes keep deceased relatives' facebook pages up as a tribute and wish them a happy birthday, and the cab company could be taken over by Niko/someone else. Bit of a stretch maybe but technically possible, I personally prefer to believe that both endings are still canon.

 

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TheerT

Well, if you pretend certain DLC's are actual events in the world of southern San Andreas, while the most unrealistic ones (like Cunning Stunts or Doomsday Heist) are just films/TV shows/whatever in which GTA Online Protagonists play some roles, then you can say GTA Online is canon to the storyline. Personally, I do consider Online as a part of the HD universe, as it feels like a separate game with all those updates with Online exclusive vehicles (unless you're on PC and you use mods).

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Tao Cheng
3 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

Some people believe they did confirm it in V because..

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if you look at Jimmy's laptop when he's sitting at the dining table it shows Niko's Lifeinvader page, including a post from him wishing Roman a happy birthday, Roman listed as a friend, and his occupation listed as driver at Bellic Cab Service. This would suggest that Roman is alive and still running the cab company. However imo it doesn't confirm it 100%, since people do sometimes keep deceased relatives' facebook pages up as a tribute and wish them a happy birthday, and the cab company could be taken over by Niko/someone else. Bit of a stretch maybe but technically possible, I personally prefer to believe that both endings are still canon.

 

Then again 

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Jimmy is known to be a troll online, making an alt account of Niko...

 

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billiejoearmstrong8
8 minutes ago, Tao Cheng said:

Then again 

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Jimmy is known to be a troll online, making an alt account of Niko...

 

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Loving this new theory :lol: 

 

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JC_HUMBLE
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3 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

Some people believe they did confirm it in V because..

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if you look at Jimmy's laptop when he's sitting at the dining table it shows Niko's Lifeinvader page, including a post from him wishing Roman a happy birthday, Roman listed as a friend, and his occupation listed as driver at Bellic Cab Service. This would suggest that Roman is alive and still running the cab company. However imo it doesn't confirm it 100%, since people do sometimes keep deceased relatives' facebook pages up as a tribute and wish them a happy birthday, and the cab company could be taken over by Niko/someone else. Bit of a stretch maybe but technically possible, I personally prefer to believe that both endings are still canon.

 

Also Franklin's cousin who is living in Liberty City mentions Roman's Cab service.

 

In After Hours DLC Jimmy Boston mentions the "bouncer" Luis, if I remember correctly in TBOGT Luis mentions that he introduced Boston to his sister. Also Poppy Mitchell remembers when Luis saved her from the paparazzis with a fire truck, event that happens in the nightclub management missions.

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ThatKyloRenGuy
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Na. It isn’t. Also, I agree with @billiejoearmstrong8 through and through with how she has said that the fact that it states ending C to be canon is further proof that GTA Online isn’t canon. I also completely agree with her in regards to liking to think a combination of both GTA IV endings are canon. Looks like me, her, and Jeansowaty know what’s REALLY going on, folks! ;)

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billiejoearmstrong8
16 hours ago, ThatKyloRenGuy said:

Na. It isn’t. Also, I agree with @billiejoearmstrong8 through and through with how he has said that the fact that it states ending C to be canon is further proof that GTA Online isn’t canon. I also completely agree with him in regards to liking to think a combination of both GTA IV endings are canon. Looks like me, him, and Jeansowaty know what’s REALLY going on, folks! ;)

I'm a she but glad you agree with me :D 

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ThatKyloRenGuy
3 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

I'm a she but glad you agree with me :D 

I’m SUPER sorry for confusing your gender. Am I forgiven by any chance? And BTW, I edited my post.

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billiejoearmstrong8
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15 minutes ago, ThatKyloRenGuy said:

I’m SUPER sorry for confusing your gender. Am I forgiven by any chance? And BTW, I edited my post.

To be fair I have a male sounding username and I also tend to assume most people on here are male haha. Wasn't offended at all, no worries!

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Duhillestpunk

I believe it’s canon. I also think the reason why none of the stuff in GTAO is brought up in GTAV is simply because... of relevance. Why would any of the stuff in Online be relevant to the protagonists lives in V even though Trevor and some story characters have met them?

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AirWolf359
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On 7/27/2019 at 12:24 PM, José_Sócrates said:

Or is it an alternate timeline or some sh*t? I ask because some things don't add up with the story of V, plus if GTA Online was canon, one of the endings in V would have to be canon (ending a is not canon, if I'm not mistaken), which means that GTA VI story could mention those events in the story, plus it would be really sh*tty for players who made another choice. Also, how is the futuristic stuff and others going to be explained in the next game?

What do you think, is GTA Online canon or not?

TL;DR: canon yes, but alternative timeline. Alternative timeline does not automatically mean something is not canon, see below.

 

It depends on your definition of "canon". In literary sense, yes, GTA Online is canon, as it belongs to the same body of works (genre, author, setting).

GTA Online is just as much part of the HD Universe as GTA 4 and 5. Canon is not about keeping a single timeline.

The canon ending in Story mode is whatever the player chooses (until Rockstar says otherwise).

 

If you mean, do Story mode and Online take place in the same timeline, then I'd say no, they don't. There are too many (small) contradictions.

GTA Online was originally supposed to be a prequel to Story mode, but it has grown to be its own timeline and contradicts events from Story mode

During heists update we see Trevor visiting Los Santos, while in Story mode he goes there for the first time.

In Import/Export DLC, you rob the Union Depository in the mission Escape Escort, while Story mode states it hasn't been robbed before.

And Molly Schultz is alive in Online in 2015 (buys car collections), while in story mode she died in 2013.

Trevor Philips is confirmed alive in 2017 during Smuggler's Run. Compare this to picking canon ending A.

During doomsday heist (2017), the hangar at LSIA still belongs to Devin Weston who was supposed to be killed if ending C was chosen (Tao Cheng mentions almost getting killed at the country club)

Or, ending A/B was chosen, Devin survived and still owns the hangar, and Tao Cheng did not almost get killed at the country club.

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The Journey
17 hours ago, AirWolf359 said:

Or, ending A/B was chosen, Devin survived and still owns the hangar, and Tao Cheng did not almost get killed at the country club.

Technically, Tao Cheng could have still almost died at the country club, just under different circumstances.

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Lotte

I think GTA V has four timelines; The one where Ending A eventually happens, the one where ending B eventually happens, the one where ending C eventually happens, and the one where online is still happening in. I say this mostly because of Trevor's participation in Online.

 

If you assume online is a prequel and the Series A heists are setup for the story mode, then it's kind of weird. Trevor knows the Lost MC operate out of Stab City, but in story mode he has to tail them to figure out where their base is. He hangs out in LS while running the funding, but in story mode he doesn't really do that until the story brings him to the city, right? I think i remember some dialogue in story mode stating that those story mode missions are the first time he goes to LS, which doesn't really track if we're going with the prequel thing. To a lesser extent you could say map changes like Benny's and the Diamond Casino & Resort count towards the 4th timeline thing, but you could also say that Story mode only happens for a few months in 2013 and both of those changes happen much later (2015 and 2019, respectively)

 

I think the events of story mode straight up don't happen in the Online timeline and in some kind of insane, roundabout way, the missions you do for the story characters prevent the story mode events from happening.

 

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KingAJ032304
On 8/9/2019 at 3:53 PM, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

I'm a she but glad you agree with me :D 

In all the years I browsed this forum as a guest, I NEVER knew or could have guest you were a female... and I'm still kind of trying to wrap my mind around how you are lol.

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