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kidojanss

black jack are rigged?

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fightingirish595
29 minutes ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

Bullsh*t. This is exactly what I do and I almost always walk away even or up. I play blackjack and I only play so many hands. If I dip below a certain amount I leave the table. 
Blackjack is actually one of the more consistent ways to "earn" with this DLC as the wins can be relatively consistent if you play smart. You may not be able to get a massive payout like you can from other activities, but consistency. 

You do this in a real casino?

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CaliMeatWagon
4 minutes ago, fightingirish595 said:

You do this in a real casino?

I don't go to real casinos for a reason...

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SummerFreeze

Blackjack is the casino game I like the most, because it is the most complex. (Still fairly simple in general.)

 

If you want to make money you gotta play the horse racing game. But it's pretty boring.

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Neemo

I've been doing pretty good at moving around between blackjack, poker and horseracing , I'm at about 900k chips on each of my characters

 

If u win a few hands in a row u should get up and play something else 

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jargonaut

I usually try to avoid discussions about the odds of casino games with people who have a strong belief that there's some magical strategy that will give them the edge over house, but since there may be some minors here or other people who aren't math-orientated I feel like I should say something. So: something.

 

Also, just to bust the common myth that you can stay winning by changing the bet amount, like doubling on losing and then going back to lower bets after a win: https://www.roulettesites.org/strategies/martingale/

 

TL;DR:

So, Can Martingale Help Me Win?
The Martingale system will bring you small winnings in the short term, but because of the steep progression, it’s an extremely risky strategy to use in the long term. In the end, the amount you’ve lost will surely outweigh the amount you’ve managed to win. It might seem to work at first, but the math doesn’t lie.

Every player has a bad experience with this system sooner or later. We are giving you a fair warning – don’t make extensive use of it in the long run! You might end up losing a lot of money and love for the game of roulette.

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Sentinel Driver
Posted (edited)

How to rig blackjack in your favor

 

1. bet max

2. win

3. profit

4. if step 2 fails, quickly close application and return to step 1

Edited by Sentinel Driver

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BeatsDown

Forget everything you've read here, THIS is how you win at Blackjack (up to $100,000 per hand)

 

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lost-in-emotions

^ can anyone confirm this?

other question, there are some winning tables to find in google.

in that table the dealers card are onl till 10 and A,
but sometimes (of course) he have of more f.e 12. and now?

 

the table say, that at 10 or A is at 99% to hit. but what over 10?!

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Aghakhi

I think people are way too keen on making profits from the casino. I just play for the heck of it. I prefer the good old business to make money.

 

The casino games are a blast to play and lose a couple of hours on, but they're way too inconsistent and luck-based. And I'd hate to depend on my luck for profits, that's for sure haha :p

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OzakiLeona
5 hours ago, lost-in-emotions said:

^ can anyone confirm this?

other question, there are some winning tables to find in google.

in that table the dealers card are onl till 10 and A,
but sometimes (of course) he have of more f.e 12. and now?

 

the table say, that at 10 or A is at 99% to hit. but what over 10?!

The disconnect method no doubt works. Same with the wheel. So far. IMHO can be patched, but bugs like this are in the game for YEARS, so clearly it's not so simple.

They could theoretically detect it though, and limit you later, similar to how car sales will be limited if you sell too much.

 

As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you be more specific ?

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CuteFaceJay
Posted (edited)

Just means, Take a break and do other activities in GTA, Then go back later. If it has gotten to the point where you question it then this might mean you're spending too much time in the Casino.

Edited by CuteFaceJay

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fightingirish595
8 hours ago, jargonaut said:

I usually try to avoid discussions about the odds of casino games with people who have a strong belief that there's some magical strategy that will give them the edge over house, but since there may be some minors here or other people who aren't math-orientated I feel like I should say something. So: something.

 

Also, just to bust the common myth that you can stay winning by changing the bet amount, like doubling on losing and then going back to lower bets after a win: https://www.roulettesites.org/strategies/martingale/

 

TL;DR:

So, Can Martingale Help Me Win?
The Martingale system will bring you small winnings in the short term, but because of the steep progression, it’s an extremely risky strategy to use in the long term. In the end, the amount you’ve lost will surely outweigh the amount you’ve managed to win. It might seem to work at first, but the math doesn’t lie.

Every player has a bad experience with this system sooner or later. We are giving you a fair warning – don’t make extensive use of it in the long run! You might end up losing a lot of money and love for the game of roulette.

Haven’t seen anyone here clAim they have a system that gives them the edge over the house though

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OzakiLeona

Martingale ? Lol.

But notice, it's site run by casino, with direct links to 'try it' at casino. With most guides like this they don't even hide the fact.

 

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kenmy13999
49 minutes ago, OzakiLeona said:

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They could theoretically detect it though, and limit you later, similar to how car sales will be limited if you sell too much.

 

 

But limiting the car sales works because the game saves and register your sale, closing the app takes advantage of how the game saves/don't save and don't get a chance to save that you spin the wheel :)

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lost-in-emotions
Posted (edited)

Ive tried the disconnect method. It works very well, but cmon guys, its not worth...

The complete amount of time reloading from shutdown, screens, etc. Outch

Its too much only for another 0815 car wich only is good for collecting dust fter a time.

So ive done it 3 times and then i accepted my fate for a sh*tty win - free clothing

 

The Black Jack Table:

Blackjack-Basic-Strategy-Chart.png

 

 

Why the Dealers Card only counts to 10 and A?

There are sometimes Cards with 11 or more.

And then what to do for me?!

Edited by lost-in-emotions

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OzakiLeona
17 minutes ago, lost-in-emotions said:

Ive tried the disconnect method. It works very well, but cmon guys, its not worth...

The complete amount of time reloading from shutdown, screens, etc. Outch

Its too much only for another 0815 car wich only is good for collecting dust fter a time.

So ive done it 3 times and then i accepted my fate for a sh*tty win - free clothing

 

The Black Jack Table:

..

 

Why the Dealers Card only counts to 10 and A?

There are sometimes Cards with 11 or more.

And then what to do for me?!

Dealer goes to A, because it's the card which dealer shows. You don't know his other card, that's why it's not part of decision table.

 

I have even better system, which gives you on average 2% more than these tables: don't play the game.

 

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lost-in-emotions
Posted (edited)

^ but he can take some new cards in the upcoming rounds.

 

i have 2 + 4, he 5

i take another and have 10,
he takes one and have 15

 

and now?
this table (and all other in the web) dont shows this case...

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OzakiLeona
1 minute ago, lost-in-emotions said:

^ but he can take some new cards in the upcoming rounds.

 

i have 2 + 4, he 5

i take another and have 10,
he takes one and have 15

 

and now?
this table (and all other in the web) dont shows this case...

That's not how blackjack works. It's not I take one, dealer takes one, I take second, and so on ..

 

Dealer deals 2 cards to everyone first, and only showing one of his.

Then you take all your cards. If you hit BJ or you burn, it's game over.

Then dealer takes all his cards. Note that he hits till he gets hard 17, or burns, regardless of what your cards are.

 

When it's your turn, there are always just 2 dealer's cards on the table, and only one is visible. Dealer only takes another card, after all your choices are over.

 

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z06z33

I've noticed this on the first day it was a mix of wins and losses the 3rd day after release was a loss every hand like 20 hands in a row at different tables different sessions,dealer always gets good cards I get really bad ones that I can't hit on but aren't enough to beat his two cards. I've played Blackjack plenty IRL and have never had anything like this

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hei3enberg

As a person with a legit math education heavily involved in everyday statistical analysis I can only tell this: if Casino is not rigged or glitched you should be insane to expect to earn systematically or expect any sustainable income from gambling. I'm not open to serious math discussion on this, because this horse is long dead and all over the internet, but I can guarantee that unless it's glitched, you won't get out of the Casino with more money that you can earn in the same time doing activities like VIP work, Terrorbyte missions or even 2x contact missions.

 

Oh, and I do hate the gambling problems, because almost every prof with a probability course thinks that students are interested in gambling and that will give an edge to his course, because they want to OuTsMaRT tHe cAsInO and hence will learn math. Mathematicians dont gamble for a reason (regression to the mean, expected payout is seldom to be expected, etc, etc).

 

TL;DR: unless you're a student and/ or looking for a glitch while studying don't waste your time and do other stuff.

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Mdc
30 minutes ago, z06z33 said:

I've noticed this on the first day it was a mix of wins and losses the 3rd day after release was a loss every hand like 20 hands in a row at different tables different sessions,dealer always gets good cards I get really bad ones that I can't hit on but aren't enough to beat his two cards. I've played Blackjack plenty IRL and have never had anything like this

Yeah I've noticed a sudden sh*t ton of losses in a row here. I know it's a gamble but funny how trying to make my last 250k chips for few remaining art pieces I literally lose every time. Hmm

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z06z33
4 minutes ago, Mdc said:

Yeah I've noticed a sudden sh*t ton of losses in a row here. I know it's a gamble but funny how trying to make my last 250k chips for few remaining art pieces I literally lose every time. Hmm

I've been lucky with roulette just betting black or red

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-LN-
9 hours ago, Aghakhi said:

I think people are way too keen on making profits from the casino. I just play for the heck of it.

^ This so much!

 

A casino does not exist so that their patrons can earn a profit or living; they exist so that they themselves can earn it! It should be treated simply as a source of entertainment by regular people who like to gamble every now and then. If you come out ahead, that's great, but don't spend the money that you need to pay your bills.

 

Now when it comes to things like poker; that's a little different. I'm talking about real poker against other players; not a table game against the house. If you want to gamble for a living or for more consistent profits; that's your best option. However, you have to very much know what you're doing and yes, also expect swings of variance as it's still gambling and you can most certainty run into cold streaks. It's just not against the house though; they take a rake from every pot and that's how they make their money.

 

TL;DR - Treat the casino as a form of entertainment; you may win or lose, but don't expect to come out ahead. If you wanna be a professional gambler, learn how to play poker and learn how to play it well, but still be cautious and know when to hold em, when to fold em, yadda, yadda, yadda. 😜

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fightingirish595
1 hour ago, hei3enberg said:

As a person with a legit math education heavily involved in everyday statistical analysis I can only tell this: if Casino is not rigged or glitched you should be insane to expect to earn systematically or expect any sustainable income from gambling. I'm not open to serious math discussion on this, because this horse is long dead and all over the internet, but I can guarantee that unless it's glitched, you won't get out of the Casino with more money that you can earn in the same time doing activities like VIP work, Terrorbyte missions or even 2x contact missions.

 

Oh, and I do hate the gambling problems, because almost every prof with a probability course thinks that students are interested in gambling and that will give an edge to his course, because they want to OuTsMaRT tHe cAsInO and hence will learn math. Mathematicians dont gamble for a reason (regression to the mean, expected payout is seldom to be expected, etc, etc).

 

TL;DR: unless you're a student and/ or looking for a glitch while studying don't waste your time and do other stuff.

Facts. There are ways in an actual casino you can cut into the house edge. But unless you can count cards. Good luck

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RayD70
10 hours ago, Aghakhi said:

I think people are way too keen on making profits from the casino. I just play for the heck of it. I prefer the good old business to make money.

 

The casino games are a blast to play and lose a couple of hours on, but they're way too inconsistent and luck-based. And I'd hate to depend on my luck for profits, that's for sure haha :p

I don't care about making money at all. I have more than enough for the next several updates (and we're not getting many per year anymore) unless R* starts adding things for over 100M a pop. LOL

 

Just building up chips for the inevitable refresh of items to buy with chips. But not gambling at all, you can have a couple million a week just buying chips at 50K a pop.

 

Play for fun. Don't bet what you're not willing to lose. Frankly, I've found the most fun playing Blackjack or 3 card poker with friends just hooting and hollering over hands, talking smack, etc. I really wish they put real poker in the game, but I can see the pitfalls they worry about (and if they did it like RDO, I'll pass. That version is horrible)

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MeatSafeMurderer
27 minutes ago, fightingirish595 said:

Facts. There are ways in an actual casino you can cut into the house edge. But unless you can count cards. Good luck

Good luck doing that these days. Most casinos use continuous shuffling machines these days to combat card counters. Even if you remember what cards came up they're immediately put back into the deck at a random point so counting them to eliminate them is useless.

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Aghakhi
3 hours ago, lost-in-emotions said:

Ive tried the disconnect method. It works very well, but cmon guys, its not worth...

The complete amount of time reloading from shutdown, screens, etc. Outch

Pretty much the reasons I don't use this trick haha :D People who use this are quite patient I'd say, but the time you lose with it breaks the whole notion of making it for profit, since you'd get more by simply spending the same amount of time doing regular business work, be it I/E, crates, nightclubs, MC & bunker sales, VIP work. Almost all business gives better money/hour ratios, since luck doesn't account for the payout and a majority of dangers can be avoided through workarounds like solo public sessions or certain vehicles.

 

I know the casino can be crazy profitable, but it's too reliant on sheer luck. As a friend of mine showed me, you can get well over 10x the amount of money invested in chips but its all mostly down to your luck and you can also lose it all as quickly as you earned it too.

 

4 minutes ago, RayD70 said:

Just building up chips for the inevitable refresh of items to buy with chips. But not gambling at all, you can have a couple million a week just buying chips at 50K a pop.

I kind of do the same, regularly buying 50k in chops but I end up usually forgetting about the casino store and gambling them away :p I'm at 140k in chips right now, had a bit of a rough time learning 3-card poker hahaha

 

7 minutes ago, RayD70 said:

Play for fun. Don't bet what you're not willing to lose. Frankly, I've found the most fun playing Blackjack or 3 card poker with friends just hooting and hollering over hands, talking smack, etc. I really wish they put real poker in the game, but I can see the pitfalls they worry about (and if they did it like RDO, I'll pass. That version is horrible)

I agree with all of this :) I mean it's easy to get carried away in the rage and believe it's all rigged, but I see cases where my luck turns around, or my friend raking a serious profit and realize that's all pure luck, or the lack of it. If blackjack is being a failure, do as I did and turn to poker, Inside Track or even roulette or slot machines. Eventually you'll start winning, and if you know when you stop you won't be broke either :D

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fightingirish595
28 minutes ago, MeatSafeMurderer said:

Good luck doing that these days. Most casinos use continuous shuffling machines these days to combat card counters. Even if you remember what cards came up they're immediately put back into the deck at a random point so counting them to eliminate them is useless.

They don’t do this at Mohegan sun. 

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Neemo
24 minutes ago, Aghakhi said:

Pretty much the reasons I don't use this trick haha :D People who use this are quite patient I'd say, but the time you lose with it breaks the whole notion of making it for profit, since you'd get more by simply spending the same amount of time doing regular business work, be it I/E, crates, nightclubs, MC & bunker sales, VIP work. Almost all business gives better money/hour ratios, since luck doesn't account for the payout and a majority of dangers can be avoided through workarounds like solo public sessions or certain vehicles.

 

I know the casino can be crazy profitable, but it's too reliant on sheer luck. As a friend of mine showed me, you can get well over 10x the amount of money invested in chips but its all mostly down to your luck and you can also lose it all as quickly as you earned it too.

 

I kind of do the same, regularly buying 50k in chops but I end up usually forgetting about the casino store and gambling them away :p I'm at 140k in chips right now, had a bit of a rough time learning 3-card poker hahaha

 

I agree with all of this :) I mean it's easy to get carried away in the rage and believe it's all rigged, but I see cases where my luck turns around, or my friend raking a serious profit and realize that's all pure luck, or the lack of it. If blackjack is being a failure, do as I did and turn to poker, Inside Track or even roulette or slot machines. Eventually you'll start winning, and if you know when you stop you won't be broke either :D

This morning the house was against me ... lol 

 

Was down about 500k...won about half of it back...I'll win it back to it later

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