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CH14R1

Which vehicles are blacklisted for passive mode?

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Jackimo1999
On 7/26/2019 at 6:29 AM, Fun 2 said:

This is the list of the vehicles that are permanently blocked from using passive mode.

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Fire Truck

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The other vehicles may only be blocked if you have weapons installed.

I can't say I've ever been playing online and gone "Oh, no, not the fire truck!"

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AStiffBreeze
On 7/27/2019 at 3:20 AM, Snoopbr said:

Are Luxor deluxe, Supervolito, Swift deluxe still blacklisted?

This is what really, really annoys me. The Supervolito and Volatus are the only two helicopters I own that appear in the casino Aircraft Concierge list, and they’re completely unarmed luxury helicopters with no countermeasures... but we can’t go passive in them, we have to be defenceless targets instead. 

 

Maybe its just me, but with the excellent changes to passive mode that they made, I don’t think it was necessary to add so many of those vehicles to the banned list. I’m looking especially at the vehicles that only have machine guns, which for the most part are completely useless anyway, or the ones which are completely unarmed.

 

I was really glad to see the Thruster made it through though, that’s my go to vehicle for scooting around the city, and since you can’t own two of them there’s no way to have a weaponised and non-weaponised version for PvE and transport respectively. 

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oleg_aka_djmeg
On 7/25/2019 at 11:29 PM, Fun 2 said:

This is the list of the vehicles that are permanently blocked from using passive mode.

 

Fire Truck

 

what the fuсk

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SummerFreeze
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, AStiffBreeze said:

This is what really, really annoys me. The Supervolito and Volatus are the only two helicopters I own that appear in the casino Aircraft Concierge list, and they’re completely unarmed luxury helicopters with no countermeasures... but we can’t go passive in them, we have to be defenceless targets instead. 

 

Maybe its just me, but with the excellent changes to passive mode that they made, I don’t think it was necessary to add so many of those vehicles to the banned list. I’m looking especially at the vehicles that only have machine guns, which for the most part are completely useless anyway, or the ones which are completely unarmed.

 

I was really glad to see the Thruster made it through though, that’s my go to vehicle for scooting around the city, and since you can’t own two of them there’s no way to have a weaponised and non-weaponised version for PvE and transport respectively. 

The helicopters and jets with champagne and cigars in the back could never go passive -- it's due to another issue that is unrelated to the recent change.

 

The Swift is a really nice heli and can go passive. (Non-Deluxe versions only.)

Edited by SummerFreeze

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AStiffBreeze
Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

The helicopters and jets with champagne and cigars in the back could never go passive -- it's due to another issue that is unrelated to the recent change.

 

The Swift is a really nice heli and can go passive. (Non-Deluxe versions only.)

I heard that the reason is that the champagne is considered a weapon in terms of how it is activated. It seems like these big passive mode changes might have been a good time for Rockstar to revisit that code. 

 

The Swift is OK, but it’s no Supervolito or Volatus. 

Edited by AStiffBreeze

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SummerFreeze
20 minutes ago, AStiffBreeze said:

I heard that the reason is that the champagne is considered a weapon in terms of how it is activated. It seems like these big passive mode changes might have been a good time for Rockstar to revisit that code. 

 

The Swift is OK, but it’s no Supervolito or Volatus. 

Volatus > Swift > SuperVolito, IMO.

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Gridl0k

I'm annoyed I can't use the Volatus or Volito, but then again at least Swift can land how I want to.

 

Also the Frogger is underrated.

 

 

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AStiffBreeze
1 hour ago, SummerFreeze said:

Volatus > Swift > SuperVolito, IMO.

Speed-wise, indeed. 

 

Landing-wise:

Swift > Volatus > SuperVolito

 

Looks-wise:

Volatus > SuperVolito > Swift

 

Its all about the looks though :)

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Gridl0k

You, a level 140: BIGNESS mask

Me, a idiot: FLYING BRAVO helicopter

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Snoopbr
4 hours ago, AStiffBreeze said:

This is what really, really annoys me. The Supervolito and Volatus are the only two helicopters I own that appear in the casino Aircraft Concierge list, and they’re completely unarmed luxury helicopters with no countermeasures... but we can’t go passive in them, we have to be defenceless targets instead. 

 

Maybe its just me, but with the excellent changes to passive mode that they made, I don’t think it was necessary to add so many of those vehicles to the banned list. I’m looking especially at the vehicles that only have machine guns, which for the most part are completely useless anyway, or the ones which are completely unarmed.

 

I was really glad to see the Thruster made it through though, that’s my go to vehicle for scooting around the city, and since you can’t own two of them there’s no way to have a weaponised and non-weaponised version for PvE and transport respectively. 

For the first time I considered buying a luxury helicopter, but this info annoys me too. I was thinking about the normal Swift, but I really wanted the luxury version... It doesn't make any sense.

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Gridl0k

The cigar, ashtray and champagne bottle can't be ghosted because of the animations, or something. And if they can't be ghosted they can still kill non-passive players.

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AStiffBreeze
3 minutes ago, Gridl0k said:

The cigar, ashtray and champagne bottle can't be ghosted because of the animations, or something. And if they can't be ghosted they can still kill non-passive players.

Why not just disable the champagne and other junk (and hence animations) when in passive?

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Gridl0k
Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, AStiffBreeze said:

Why not just disable the champagne and other junk (and hence animations) when in passive?

I'm going off what someone posted in the distant past, but the issue is that if you are in passive, you and the chopper are ghosted but the animated elements are not.

 

Now imagine someone griefing a lobby by skillfully braining players with a low flying '86 Dom.

 

As we know, the only allowed way to grief a lobby is by holding RT and pressing A when the beeps come on your impossible flying scooter.

Edited by Gridl0k

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AStiffBreeze
1 minute ago, Gridl0k said:

I'm going off what someone posted in the distant past, but the issue is that if you are in passive, you and the chopper are ghosted but the animated elements are not.

Surely they could just disable the button prompt to initiate the animation when in passive though? For example, the Hunter used to be able to go passive, at which point the button prompt for the gunner to activate the gun turret - the same button as you use to drink champagne in a Volatus - no longer worked. 

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Gridl0k
Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, AStiffBreeze said:

Surely they could just disable the button prompt to initiate the animation when in passive though? For example, the Hunter used to be able to go passive, at which point the button prompt for the gunner to activate the gun turret - the same button as you use to drink champagne in a Volatus - no longer worked. 

I think the issue is more fundamental than that, they bodged animations into vehicles and now can't easily undo it. Disabling the animations wouldn't affect the inability of the assets to ghost.

 

Coupled with 'we don't give a f*ck, we solved that already'.

 

So yeah the real luxury is the expensive fireball you'll die in.

Edited by Gridl0k

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HopalongCasidy
44 minutes ago, Gridl0k said:

I'm annoyed I can't use the Volatus or Volito, but then again at least Swift can land how I want to.

 

Also the Frogger is underrated.

 

 

Frogger at one point was my favorite one to fly.  Havoc now takes that by a country mile.  

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Gridl0k
Posted (edited)

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PS this was the perfect opportunity to add the Buzzard (unarmed) to warstock and the concierge service but nope

 

PPS you can pull an armed one out your ass anywhere on the map but not leave a helipad in it.

Edited by Gridl0k

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Rebel_Scum

Remember when you thought you were safe from the fire truck in passive mode in 2013? You're old now just like me!

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HopalongCasidy
On 8/6/2019 at 6:57 AM, Gridl0k said:

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTSsBqwBKmGmyflzZr3eYt

 

PS this was the perfect opportunity to add the Buzzard (unarmed) to warstock and the concierge service but nope

 

PPS you can pull an armed one out your ass anywhere on the map but not leave a helipad in it.

Perfect meme placement, here.   

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Gridl0k
2 hours ago, HopalongCasidy said:

Perfect meme placement, here.   

In case you're being sarcastic on the internet, I was referring to the guy above's Havok :)

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