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Smokewood

Story lines that were never resolved???

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RedDeadJohn

There is one moment that always bugs me what the hell happened in the meeting with Dutch and Colm O'driscoll did they just silently walks away after Arthur was kidnapped wtf ?

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crazedZ10
8 minutes ago, RedDeadJohn said:

There is one moment that always bugs me what the hell happened in the meeting with Dutch and Colm O'driscoll did they just silently walks away after Arthur was kidnapped wtf ?

Definitely one of the worst missions in the game, both from a narrative and gameplay perspective. Why the hell did Dutch agree to happily walk into a trap with only Arthur as his back up, he has an entire gang. Also they never tell us what happens during the meeting, Dutch and Micah don't see Arthur getting attacked nor do they do anything to help Arthur during his kidnapping. Colm for some reason takes off all of Arthur's clothes and makes him wear a red onesie and a baby hat thing, that's pretty weird. That small gameplay section with the candle is boring and useless and should just be a cutscene. The horse magically uses GPS to cross over an entire state and find the camp. And oh yeah no one really gives a sh*t afterwards. Shaun gets a party after being held by bounty hunters but Arthur gets nothing for rescuing his damn self. Speaking of Shaun, they kill him off immediately after and then start the jack kidnap thing giving you 0 time to process what happened. Maybe they did that purposely so you didn't think about that crappy mission too much.

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Deadman2112

@crazedZ10

 

Regarding the kidnapping of Arthur.

Yeah that one has always left a bad taste in my mouth. It's almost as if they were trying to get rid of him.

 

I say this because Dutch sends Arthur to retrieve Micah when he's in trouble, yet no one goes looking for Arthur.

 

 

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JupeShot92
2 hours ago, Deadman2112 said:

LOL first of all I am not hostile. Are you truly that sensitive, that a bit of directness and honesty bothers you so?

 

I'm simply sitting here dumbfounded over the idea that a 40+ year old (who by the way, lacks all the correct markings on her skin) is supposed to pass for a 20 year old.

 

Couple that with the fact that I'm trying to show you the errors in your own logic...

...you're basing all of this on your personal opinion about Rockstar's completion of something when you don't know that for certain.

 

...and you're also basing this on the things that can change like hair color and style, rather than look at the hard facts like marks on the skin, and age.

 

So yeah, I'm a little confused in that Arena.

 

You see police are trained, not to look at things like hair color and hairstyle because they know these things are easily disguised. Instead they go by distinguishing facts that you can't easily change like your height, weight, age, eye color, and marks on your skin.

 

I get that this is a video game and not real life but the people who created this video game do exist in real life and so it seems pretty evident that they base things on real life experiences.

 

I believe, that I can make this comment with a level of certainty because they give examples of people who age in the game and the spots on their skin still look the same even in spite of the fact that their overall appearance has changed with time.

 

...and I'd like to point out that you're not the only one who has made incorrect assumptions. I myself have made several regarding another NPC in this game.

 

That said, I'm glad you admit that you don't know. That's the whole point that I was trying to get across in the first place. Now maybe we can get back to actually trying to figure out who she is.

 

Regardless of what you may believe there are lots of us out there who value honesty over all else, because honesty gets right to the point and all of this other ridiculous banter isn't even necessary.

 

Anyway as I said before, thank you for at least finally being honest. Opinions and factual proof are two different things, and distinguishing between the two is truly important. Without that, it just leads to Blind arrogance, an incorrect assumptions.

 

 

You were being hostile man, you were wowing and lolling and blah blah blahing from the very beginning, it just seemed like you  were taking it a lot more seriously than you needed to.

 

I don't believe that the point you were trying to get across was that neither of us know, bear in mind in my original post all I said was that I believe its her not that it's an actual fact. You were the one who went on a big screed accusing me of ignoring the facts. 

 

As for the way the way the prostitute looks you already know my opinion on that but there are other reasons that she could look like that and still be the princess. She's been a prostitute in a rundown saloon in a crappy town in a pre condom era since she was a kid, her face could be ravaged by all kinds of diseases and alcohol abuse. I know people can change their hair but the hairstyle is still significant because no one else in the game has it which makes me think that it's a deliberate clue left by Rockstar. That was my point about the hair from the beginning. 

 

As it stands there's more evidence of the prostitute being the Princess than there is of Mary Beth and if it isn't either of them then who could it be? People have been turning the game upside down since release and have found nothing. If there was anymore to it someone would have found her by now. 

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Deadman2112

Big difference between sarcasm and hostility.

 

Was I being overly sarcastic?

absolutely

 

Just re-read your original statement and I apologize you weren't the one claiming that it's definitively her.

my mistake. However you did do so several times after.

 

Actually there's a little bit more evidence I just have been sitting on it.

 

I tend to play things a little close to the chest when it comes to info because there are several YouTubers out there who not only steal other people's ideas but have a good portion of Community believing things that aren't true.

 

If you'd like to discuss things further let's take this to private message...

 

 

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JupeShot92
17 minutes ago, Deadman2112 said:

Big difference between sarcasm and hostility.

 

Was I being overly sarcastic?

absolutely

 

Just re-read your original statement and I apologize you weren't the one claiming that it's definitively her.

my mistake.

 

Maybe Hostile was the wrong word to use but you kinda came off unnecessarily mocking. Maybe I read you wrong and you didn't really mean to be though. 

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JupeShot92
28 minutes ago, Deadman2112 said:

 

Actually there's a little bit more evidence I just have been sitting on it. 

 

I tend to play things a little close to the chest when it comes to info because there are several YouTubers out there who not only steal other people's ideas but have a good portion of Community believing things that aren't true.

 

If you'd like to discuss things further let's take this to private message...

 

 

I missed this part because I was in the middle of replying when you added it. I'll message you. 

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foosso

From the main storyline, I'd say the exact fate of Karen Jones.

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AddamHusayin
On 8/15/2019 at 2:56 PM, Cutter De Blanc said:

Didn't Javier say something about John's kids (plural) in the first game, implying he'd known about both of them?

 

Yup, just checked, at about 1:40 "I hope you and your wife and children rot in hell" 

 

Yeah I remember hoping to hear more about the daughter who got sick and died that John talked about but there doesn't seem to be anything in the game about it to my recollection. When was this kid born? In RDR1, Rockstar may have intended for the kid to be born during the gang days since there is no grave at Beecher's Hope and judging by Javier's reaction implying he is aware that John has more than one child. However, Dutch inquires about how Jack is doing when they meet up again in Blackwater so it implies that he only knows of Jack being alive. "He ain't so little anymore." The kid either died during the gang days and Dutch knows that or was born and died after John left meaning Dutch wouldn't know about it. I think Rockstar just kind of forgot about it since it's not all that important in the grand scheme of things but I was hoping RDR2 would've shed some light on John's daughter.

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