Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk VIII

[rollschuh2282]

i can´t code, but i think they maybe build systems on top of other systems which are part of a another system...etc.

so i guess the old code does have so many systems depending on it, that when changing 1 single thing, it causes big bugs in a another part.

 

game development is weird...like in the volition saints row 2 stream (yeah a different dev and series) they talked about how they made a little change and it broke like the walking animation of like half the peds.

and the change had nothing with animation to do.

so it isn´t really easy to go back and change 6 year old code

Edited October 28, 2019 by rollschuh2282

[DentureDynamite]

^^ Just an issue of priorities and motivation--code can be ported fairly easily even between similar CPUs; e.g. PPC and 680x0 line.

Edited October 28, 2019 by DentureDynamite

[Classique]

5 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

I can't explain it in perfect detail because all of this is just a bunch of theories/guesses merged together, so I look at what is there in the code and try to guess how it would work.

Going over what we found,

1- Rockstar is trying to change how the freemode script is requested thus it's possible we may get a new script that will function like freemode but with some changes.

You know how Rockstar can't change "old code" ? Well, their way of fixing that is to come up with new scripts that would function the same but with new code.

The mini-games you can launch in your Biker Clubhouse like the Arm Wrestling and Darts ? They have new scripts made just for them, because Rockstar can't mess with the old one.

Have you noticed any significant changes ? Nope, same mini-games but different location.

So the possible changes coming to freemode that I talked about will be the same, it could be a big list of changes or minor changes, could be Cops n Crooks OR custom freemode lobbies (like you can disable/enable certain vehicles or weapons ..etc)

 

2- We found out that it is possible the number of players in this new freemode will be adjustable, so the session may be limited to 16 players or 8 players or even less.

This feature would work well with either Cops n Crooks or custom freemode lobbies, or completely unrelated this new update could introduce roles like criminal-related roles.

You know how R* had problems with Heists because of the roles given to the players ? For example, they had problems with the gateway driver role.

In the single-player version, the gateway driver will be waiting for you outside, but try to imagine yourself in the same position, it will be so boring.

Heck that's why people hate Flecca Job, because you may end up with a player who suck at hacking and you'll stay there watching him try to hack it multiple times.

With this in mind, the limitation of how many players can play in this new freemode, is possibly because each player will play as part of a team with a given role, so they can't let one team outnumber another team.

 

3- Just recently, I found out that in this new mode, you won't see the icons for missions, races, minigames such as Tennis / Arm Wrestling ..etc

This further suggest this new freemode is gonna be a mode rather than what most people think of it as a better version of the current freemode.

 

With all of this in mind, Cops n Crooks seem highly possible to be the next update, but this all speculation.

This may not be the answer to your question, or my answer is too vague, but this is just because I really don't know what's coming in the next update, all I know are the three points I have stated.

Can I just have a moment to just thank you so much for this information?

No "guesswork", no "leak-games", none of that - pure information, and your own take at the information, adding fuel to the speculation engine

 

Thank you, Fun. 

[Zak Ras]

2 hours ago, gtafan1995 said:

Can you tell us why they can't change old code? I remember that leaker from 4chan talking about how they don't touch old features, but what's the reason behind this?

From my experience with updating assets, I strongly reckon it's not a case of "they can't", it's more; "they dare not" change anything that works.

 

You know the saying; "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"? Well there's one that comes before that in programming which is "If it works, for your own sake leave it the f*ck alone".

 

[Lemoyne outlaw]

hi everyone. i have been a bit out of the loop recently. and now that im back i am hearing all this talk about cops and crooks. so i am wondering what has happened to spark this talk? was there a leak?

[REXX]

Just now, confederatestatesgta said:

hi everyone. i have been a bit out of the loop recently. and now that im back i am hearing all this talk about cops and crooks. so i am wondering what has happened to spark this talk? was there a leak?

All speculation and guesses mate.

[Lemoyne outlaw]

1 minute ago, REXX said:

All speculation and guesses mate.

oh okay thanks.

[—TheSquid—]

3 minutes ago, confederatestatesgta said:

hi everyone. i have been a bit out of the loop recently. and now that im back i am hearing all this talk about cops and crooks. so i am wondering what has happened to spark this talk? was there a leak?

Fun’s post that gtafan recently quoted lays out everything pretty well. The cops n’ crooks part mostly stems from the beta/original GTAO we never got. 

[Lupo-Akane]

Some how I feel like cops and crooks will fade away after x2$ is over if its just more stupid pvp.....

 

[Geisterfaust]

10 minutes ago, Lupo-Akane said:

Some how I feel like cops and crooks will fade away after x2$ is over if its just more stupid pvp.....

Unless it's properly balanced and no hardcore military hardware is allowed in freemode, especially Mk2.

[Ehllfhire]

1 minute ago, Geisterfaust said:

Unless it's properly balanced and no hardcore military hardware is allowed in freemode, especially Mk2.

Why do people hate on the toys of gta?

[REXX]

1 minute ago, Ehllfhire said:

Why do people hate on the toys of gta?

Because 90% of them are abused.

 

I personally can't hate any of them as I'm always in IO, but yeah, I reckon thats why.

[Ehllfhire]

1 minute ago, REXX said:

Because 90% of them are abused.

 

I personally can't hate any of them as I'm always in IO, but yeah, I reckon thats why.

Abused how? This is a sand box game with no rules. /shrug

[Classique]

23 minutes ago, Ehllfhire said:

Abused how? This is a sand box game with no rules. /shrug

While true, we cannot deny the fact that the MKII has drastically reduced the joy in Freeroam for many. It's the #1 vehicle to use for griefing. 

[VitoCorleone1992]

9 minutes ago, Ehllfhire said:

Abused how? This is a sand box game with no rules. /shrug

But think like a person spent a week grinding 1M from a bussiness...then comes a griefer in a MK II and blows it effortlessly in less then 10 seconds, to win 2k, some ammo and some snacks. There's nothing that makes griefing worth it in the game so far.

[Ehllfhire]

3 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

But think like a person spent a week grinding 1M from a bussiness...then comes a griefer in a MK II and blows it effortlessly in less then 10 seconds, to win 2k, some ammo and some snacks. There's nothing that makes griefing worth it in the game so far.

I wouldnt deliver in a public lobby for one this is gta.

11 minutes ago, Classique said:

While true, we cannot deny the fact that the MKII has drastically reduced the joy in Freeroam for many. It's the #1 vehicle to use for griefing. 

It was the hydra before.

[REXX]

3 minutes ago, Ehllfhire said:

It was the hydra before.

It was originally the Rhino.

 

... then it got the dumbest nerf in the history of GTAO.

 

*looks down in shame*

[Lupo-Akane]

1 hour ago, Geisterfaust said:

Unless it's properly balanced and no hardcore military hardware is allowed in freemode, especially Mk2.

That would help it and only be allowed to use starting weapons like the micro smg and pistols but they will flip it up so I would not hold any hope for anything good.   

[eyman]

nvm

Edited October 28, 2019 by eyman

[Geisterfaust]

8 minutes ago, Lupo-Akane said:

That would help it and only be allowed to use starting weapons like the micro smg and pistols but they will flip it up so I would not hold any hope for anything good.   

Truth to be told, I don't have any hope for anything good in GTA Online. I'm visiting the forums, more and more off-topic and RDR 2 sections, but I don't even want to touch the game: probably played enough.

 

@Ehllfhire Read this, enough material to answer your questions and much more adequate place to ask them.

[HamwithCheese]

3 hours ago, Ehllfhire said:

Abused how? This is a sand box game with no rules. /shrug

The mk2 (and any meme vehicles before and after it) is the prime example on needless escalation to capitalize shark card sales. What started as a jumping car with missiles bound to free roam work, has now escalated to a flying missile bike with counter measure and can be spawned reliably at your feet. Whats next? A rocket rhino that can go off the radar? An invisible helicopter? An iron man suit with teleport abilities? Any vehicle that blatantly gives anyone an advantage in any aspect, so much so that its practically needed to get around is a contradiction of an open world sandbox game.

Edited October 29, 2019 by HamwithCheese

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

2 hours ago, Ehllfhire said:

I wouldnt deliver in a public lobby for one this is gta.

If this is GTA, wouldn't that mean that selling in a public lobby is the intended game experience though?

 

You're pretty much contradicted yourself with said statement.

 

Hell, literally needing to go out of your way to avoid other players at all costs in an online multiplayer game kind of proves how this game is fundamentally flawed.

[REVENGE777]

4 hours ago, Ehllfhire said:

Why do people hate on the toys of gta?

It totally sh*t on the lore and continuation of the HD universe. Like, if we wanted saints row 4 we’d play that. Like a lot of the stuff is cool but a lot of it is just excessive.

[—TheSquid—]

I don’t care about militarized vehicles because I can at least believe they exist. The meme vehicles are the problem. Hell, you can’t tell me that taking away the Mk.II would just mean something equally bad will take its place. Jets have the Chernobog, homing launcher, AA trailer, explosive rounds, and a vast array of other aircraft as counters. Not to mention they can’t be snapped into existence within a ten-foot radius via interaction menu, and they require skill to pilot. 

 

Armored vehicles like the Insurgent are dirt cheap and can be countered by each other as well as stickies, light weapons fire and heavy vehicles like tanks. Fast cars equipped with stickies are flimsy and can be torn apart with anything, really. 

 

The Mk.I and II, Deluxo and Thruster shouldn’t be lumped in with that crowd. The Mk.II especially, given that auto-aim is useless, snipers require a lucky shot, homing launchers are a joke, aircraft missiles zoom right past, aircraft themselves don’t have countermeasures, let alone 20 missiles worth and so on. A new big, clunky tank or some riot vehicles are not going to break the meta. 

[Ehllfhire]

50 minutes ago, SonofLosSantos said:

It totally sh*t on the lore and continuation of the HD universe. Like, if we wanted saints row 4 we’d play that. Like a lot of the stuff is cool but a lot of it is just excessive.

Ooh can we have super powers rockstar?

1 hour ago, YELLOW DOG WITH CONE said:

If this is GTA, wouldn't that mean that selling in a public lobby is the intended game experience though?

 

You're pretty much contradicted yourself with said statement.

 

Hell, literally needing to go out of your way to avoid other players at all costs in an online multiplayer game kind of proves how this game is fundamentally flawed.

Suee it is so i sell in a public lobby by myself or with friends so no hypocrisy. Only hypocrits are those who dont want sandbox pvp in a sandbox pvp game.

[LeakyLine]

4 hours ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

But think like a person spent a week grinding 1M from a bussiness...then comes a griefer in a MK II and blows it effortlessly in less then 10 seconds, to win 2k, some ammo and some snacks. There's nothing that makes griefing worth it in the game so far.

Virgins will be virgins.

[Ehllfhire]

2 minutes ago, LeakyLine said:

Virgins will be virgins.

A guy grinding a million might not be a virgin. You never know.

[LeakyLine]

Just now, Ehllfhire said:

A guy grinding a million might not be a virgin. You never know.

People who blow up other people's cargo for fun are the virgins, not the grinders.

[REVENGE777]

12 minutes ago, LeakyLine said:

People who blow up other people's cargo for fun are the virgins, not the grinders.

Virginity is sacred

[VitoCorleone1992]

Well, virginity is just someone who didn't made sex yet. Virginity doesnt define if you're a douche or not. There's douches virgins and not virgins.

Edited October 29, 2019 by VitoCorleone1992