Next DLC Speculation Topic Mk VIII

[Scottiedog123]

I've just come back from Goodwood so tbh nothing is gonna top that..

But I actually need my fix of GTA cars more than ever now.

[ddarko12]

5 minutes ago, Scottiedog123 said:

I've just come back from Goodwood so tbh nothing is gonna top that..

But I actually need my fix of GTA cars more than ever now.

lmaoo wow, that must've been exciting

[FrugalDangerMan]

1 hour ago, ghostsoap01 said:

So I just signed in briefly during lunch and had to go through re-accepting the R* terms and conditions, maybe this means the dlc may be coming next week?

 

You put the controller down and/or rested your hand in such a way that it pressed a button (R2 on PS4) and "reset" the game settings during boot up.

 

I do it all the time. 

 

Just close the game before it auto saves and start it back up to restore the original settings.

 

ITS A FEATURE NOT A BUG, OK?!?

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

2 minutes ago, PNutterSammich said:

ITS A FEATURE NOT A BUG, OK?!?

[VitoCorleone1992]

13 minutes ago, JackRR said:

That is why online gambling regulations would not apply here.

But they do apply. That's why poker in RDO isn't allowed in those countries with gambling restrictions. I know, i don't understand how a "simulation of gambling" have a thing to do with the law. Is not like you in RDO (and probably GTA will follow the same path) can play "gambling games" bought with real money, neither you are able to transform your own fake cash in the "gambling" mini-games to real cash. Seems very weird pulling the "law card" in a game who doesn't have a real gambling system but a simulated gambling system.

[Scottiedog123]

13 minutes ago, ddarko12 said:

lmaoo wow, that must've been exciting

I can't really put it in to words atm.

If you are a massive petrol/gear head, then it really must be the best place to go. 

I never really believed it but it's true.

The more passionate you are then the more phenomenal it is.

Alot of personal reasons for me too though so it has been an emotional rollercoaster.

I have had four days with my Son, of smelling racecars first thing in the morning, being surrounded by beauty and wonder at every turn, I have seen literally 100's of my favourite cars and many of which I have been able to inspect from every angle and get very close to or in, and some of those have been OH SO SPECIAL. I have met drivers and celebrities, motoring royalty (to me) have amazing souvenirs such as autographs, car parts, etc. 

My mind is completely blown.

 

I will be 100% going again.

I cannot recommend it highly enough.

 

I will be posting a load of photos because it's just too incredible not to.

I did post a few that I took on my phone of a 250 SWB/C in the gt500 thread. 

But I bought a camera as it really was necessary, and I want to learn a bit anyway, I took over 1000 photos/videos and could have done a lot more, and my Son did roughly the same on his phone so I gotta lot to go through and sort out.

Edited July 9, 2019 by Scottiedog123

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

2 minutes ago, Scottiedog123 said:

Spoiler

 

I can't really put it in to words atm.

If you are a massive petrol/gear head, then it really must be the best place to go. 

I never really believed it but it's true.

The more passionate you are then the more phenomenal it is.

Alot of personal reasons for me too though so it has been an emotional rollercoaster.

I have had four days with my Son, of smelling racecars first thing in the morning, being surrounded by beauty and wonder at every turn, I have seen literally 100's of my favourite cars and many of which I have been able to inspect from every angle and get very close to or in, and some of those have been OH SO SPECIAL. I have met drivers and celebrities, motoring royalty (to me) have amazing souvenirs such as autographs, car parts, etc. 

 

My mind is completely blown.

Sound you had a blast! Well, welcome back to GTAF were....the fun...is........right...now..............uhm...................

Edited July 9, 2019 by MrARCO

[Scottiedog123]

Sort of..on topic.. sorry..

You can imagine what this experience has done to the wishlisting/speculative side of my mind...

Everything I've seen, I want in GTA and I'm trying to "casino" link it all in my head.

Edited July 9, 2019 by Scottiedog123

[JackRR]

16 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

But they do apply. That's why poker in RDO isn't allowed in those countries with gambling restrictions. I know, i don't understand how a "simulation of gambling" have a thing to do with the law. Is not like you in RDO (and probably GTA will follow the same path) can play "gambling games" bought with real money, neither you are able to transform your own fake cash in the "gambling" mini-games to real cash. Seems very weird pulling the "law card" in a game who doesn't have a real gambling system but a simulated gambling system.

I understand what you are saying. Gambling with money bought from sharkcards is no different than paying money to open loot boxes in other video games. There are no US regulations in that regard. Gambling in GTAO with money from sharkcards would be allowed in the US and many other major countries, just as it is allowed to purchase loot boxes in other video games with real money. There may be a few countries that don't allow it, but I don't think Rockstar will completely overhaul their currency system to make sure players from, say, Saudi Arabia, can gamble in the GTAO casino. That is why the buying chips method would be put in place, to prevent players from those countries from gambling. It's up to Rockstar to decide what they want to do, but they have no regulations they have to conform with, in regards to the casino (at least in most countries). RDR2O could have "sharkcards", and allow players to play poker with that money, if they wanted to. Rockstar made RDR2 from the beginning so that micro transactions would only get you gold not money. GTA doesn't have "gold" and they are not going to add an entire new currency system if they don't have to. The reason there is buyable gold in RDR2 and not buyable cash, is because the community doesn't like micro transactions that give you in game currency, they didn't do it because of any laws or regulations. Overall what I am trying to say is, gambling in GTA using money from sharkcards is no different than using money to be loot boxes in other video games, therefore it would not be subject to "gambling regulations" in most countries.  

[korhan332]

I Don't know if this hards to make but they can seperate shark card money and money earned from heists etc they can still withdraw/deposit money but can't gamble money bought with shark cards

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

1 minute ago, korhan332 said:

I Don't know if this hards to make but they can seperate shark card money and money earned from heists etc they can still withdraw/deposit money but can't gamble money bought with shark cards

I think we get something similar such as RP, but it can be earned with the new casino missions and activities inside the casino.

[DentureDynamite]

1 minute ago, korhan332 said:

I Don't know if this hards to make but they can separate shark card money and money earned from heists etc they can still withdraw/deposit money but can't gamble money bought with shark cards

I have my doubts about that--I've had both shark card money and script kid GTA$ dumped onto me (that were mixed together) that got wiped by Rockstar.

 

My shark card money was of course 100% legit, but R* either can't separate it, or they just don't give a rip.

[CarimboHanky]

1 hour ago, Dock said:

 

R* is obviously not going to change anything about the cash/bank system but, “savings account”? What?? I’d really like to know what exactly is the reasoning behind stashing money on hand in a second character, because I’ve never heard of anything like this before lol

yes, i use my 2nd character as a savings account, when i get 2-3million, i move it to my 2nd character, it stops me from impulse buying and wasting more money than what i already do

 

i normally only keep 500k at hand on my main guy.

[matamike]

1 minute ago, DentureDynamite said:

I have my doubts about that--I've had both shark card money and script kid GTA$ dumped onto me (that were mixed together) that got wiped by Rockstar.

 

My shark card money was of course 100% legit, but R* either can't separate it, or they just don't give a rip.

they need to distinguish the money on hand, bank money and shark card money . Its the same thing all along but they will have it categorized inside a data container for each of these groups. This way could help resolve that. After seeing all those things they have pulled off in this game this thing seems fairly easy for them to implement.

[DentureDynamite]

^^ Well, seeing as R* frequently fails to even GIVE all their players free GTA$, I have a hard time believing how much competence their "system" has for anything else.

 

Cheat detection and money separation included.

[Hazzardtohimself]

Without wanting to get into the whole gambling debate thing again, as it's been discussed ad nauseam already... 

 

Rockstar managed to get away with in-game cash (and by extension, that cash purchased via Stinky Fish cards) being spent on the Arena Wars wheel by making every spin reward the player. There was no 'complete loss' scenario - you spent $5000, but could at least win your money back or gain more than that with extra money on top of your original 'stake' or the rewards of RP / AP points etc. 

 

Complete guesswork and my opinion, but I don't think that would be an option for most casino games. Unless every slot machine pays out what you spend on it... and every blackjack dealer refunds your money if you lose the game. I mean, good for your wallet certainly... but it's the risk versus reward thing that powers most gambling.

 

If there is a complete loss option to gambling, like in real life, Rockstar would have to tread carefully if people are buying cash, losing it all, and having to buy more cash... and becoming addicted to that cycle of trying to win that illusive jackpot or exclusive pair of Bigness sunshades that are only available in the casino. 

 

Of course... this glosses over the fact that money purchased via Stinky Fish cards is routinely wiped out in freeroam by script-kiddies, used to purchase supplies that are stolen by NPCs or blown up by Broomsticks, and of course frequently 'accidentally corrected' by Rockstar themselves. And used to bet in races and stuff... which is also something of a legal grey-area, I suppose. 

 

TLDR: Like many, I expect a second currency to be introduced that can only be earned in game. 

[VitoCorleone1992]

1 hour ago, JackRR said:

I understand what you are saying. Gambling with money bought from sharkcards is no different than paying money to open loot boxes in other video games. There are no US regulations in that regard. Gambling in GTAO with money from sharkcards would be allowed in the US and many other major countries, just as it is allowed to purchase loot boxes in other video games with real money. There may be a few countries that don't allow it, but I don't think Rockstar will completely overhaul their currency system to make sure players from, say, Saudi Arabia, can gamble in the GTAO casino. That is why the buying chips method would be put in place, to prevent players from those countries from gambling. It's up to Rockstar to decide what they want to do, but they have no regulations they have to conform with, in regards to the casino (at least in most countries). RDR2O could have "sharkcards", and allow players to play poker with that money, if they wanted to. Rockstar made RDR2 from the beginning so that micro transactions would only get you gold not money. GTA doesn't have "gold" and they are not going to add an entire new currency system if they don't have to. The reason there is buyable gold in RDR2 and not buyable cash, is because the community doesn't like micro transactions that give you in game currency, they didn't do it because of any laws or regulations. Overall what I am trying to say is, gambling in GTA using money from sharkcards is no different than using money to be loot boxes in other video games, therefore it would not be subject to "gambling regulations" in most countries.  

I would say that they only added poker in RDO because there was already two previous currencies...maybe they already did that also to make "gambling" easily to play without complanings from parents that their childrens are wasting all their credit cards money. That's why gta will have another currency aswell or at least some kind of "arena points" like in AW dlc. They did this to prevent the exact same thing i said: lawsuits from parents bcz now "their childrens are addicted into gambling and wasted all their money without knowing that they were snicking their pockets to grab their VISA's". In order to that, R* made RDO in a way that prevent real money being spent in a game. That's why you can't bet golden bars. So, if in fact there are no gambling, just a "simulated gambling", why R* fear so much countries laws if those gambling laws as far we know, can't be applied in a game that in fact doesn't use gambling mechanisms which use real money, bcz you are just playing with fake money to get fake money, and not playing with real money to get fake money, much less playing with real money, to get fake money and in some way transform that fake money into real money.

Edited July 9, 2019 by VitoCorleone1992

[eyman]

I think this week is the week we can get the ball rolling again. I ask myself was it a good idea for Rockstar to announce the casino in June? probably not but yet again, I can only imagine what this place would have looked like if everybody still didn't know what was coming next. I'm looking forward to the artwork.

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

I wonder what in-game music track they are going to use for the trailer. "Jamiroquai - Alright" is a save bet.

Edited July 9, 2019 by MrARCO

[White Shark]

8 minutes ago, MrARCO said:

I wonder what in-game music track they are going to use for the trailer.

 

[carnerd3000]

A leak would be fantastic right about now...

 

[aaron2997]

26 minutes ago, MrARCO said:

I wonder what in-game music track they are going to use for the trailer.

I think they'd use some new score. Something big band esque.

[White Shark]

RockStar still trying to think of a last minute theme and name for the Casino hence the delay: 

 

 

[Calvin.L]

Spoiler

8 hours ago, Gridl0k said:

Purdy 

 

 

It's not gonna "map" 1:1 but gives you an idea of the issue.

 

Gonna be reporting every KSA tag I see in the casino btw 

 

Maybe I will use VPN.

 

[VitoCorleone1992]

4 minutes ago, Calvin.linardi said:

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Maybe I will use VPN.

 

I didn't undertand very well...i'm wrong when saying that, by looking at that map, the USA for example, couldn't get gamble in GTAO?

[Ping101]

1 hour ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

They did this to prevent the exact same thing i said: lawsuits from parents bcz now "their childres are addicted into gambling and wasted all their money without knowing that they were snicking their pockets to grab their VISA's". In order to that, R* made RDO in a way that prevent real money being spent in a game. That's why you can't bet golden bars. So, if in fact there are no gambling, just a "simulated gambling", 

 

I still think this is a very real risk and one that R* should be flagging internally. It's one thing to argue the rights and wrongs of closed-system one-way gambling, but addiction is entirely a different thing. What's to stop a class action lawsuit in 5 years from now, from thousands of players who could claim that their finances and lives have been ruined after getting hooked on GTAO in-game betting? It doesn't matter that you can't pull money out of the system once you have spent it, the act of gambling for a reward is still theoretically addictive.

 

Regardless of how absurd it might seem for someone to claim they got hooked and financially exploited in GTA, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a law firm out there drawing up plans to make their own fortune from finding relevant misery to get their day in court and a big compensation payout.

 

It's a political hot topic across the world, it's part of the wider process of laws and regulations from a different age trying to keep pace with the rapidly-moving 'new' digital world. Even if a lawsuit like this won't easily fly in the USA at the moment, there are many jurisdictions where a challenge like this could be more favorably tested. It's only a matter of time before the sh*t hits the fan. Of all the material R* could develop, I really think they are being weirdly brave to choose casinos for this DLC right now.

Edited July 9, 2019 by Ping101

[Calvin.L]

2 hours ago, PNutterSammich said:

 

You put the controller down and/or rested your hand in such a way that it pressed a button (R2 on PS4) and "reset" the game settings during boot up.

 

I do it all the time. 

 

Just close the game before it auto saves and start it back up to restore the original settings.

 

ITS A FEATURE NOT A BUG, OK?!?

That happend to me too, Every i start GTAO on my PC i must go to the story mode before joining GTAO lobby and after that i must accepting the terms and conditions to go online!

is there a way to disable this?

sorry for double post

[specterkev]

2 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

I didn't undertand very well...i'm wrong when saying that, by looking at that map, the USA for example, couldn't get gamble in GTAO?

Yeah I don't understand that because we can in the US on Red Dead and we have a lot of online gambling type things to. I used to hang out and gamble in a casino on PlayStation Home

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

46 minutes ago, carnerd3000 said:

A leak would be fantastic right about now...

 

I thought that was roadkill for a second. Damn, speculation went for 0 to 100 real quick.

[Zak Ras]

@Mach1bud

 

Get in here.