No animals online...

[Chunkey_Monkey]

1 hour ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

Well I can't speak for Xbox. Actually to think it was nerfed is ridiculous. For what reason, to prevent someone from getting .1 gold? As far as the dozens of post, it's dozens of post by the same people with the same conspiracy theory. I can respect opinions if they're just that, but not when they're thrown out there as fact with no proof.

They didn't just nerf the spawns in lemoyne they adjusted prices of feathers and quantity was dropped from 3 flite feathers to one on herons etc only a small amount of birdlife wasnt affected of the higher value birds and adjusted carcass prices even some animal were adjusted as well deer for an example, Why is it only you think nothing was nerfed when many folk on here say it was ? 

Edited June 21, 2019 by Mad-Monkey_1st

[AmyStone]

8 hours ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

It was never reduced.

It was definitely reduced. I used to hunt in the same spot and could make $200 an hour. Then after the update I could barely make $70 in the same time. It was not my imagination. What makes you so certain they didn't reduce them? You seem to be the only person on here who doesn't think they reduced it. But if you want to think you alone are right and everyone else is wrong then that's up to you.

Edited June 21, 2019 by AmyStone

[The Dedito Gae]

12 minutes ago, AmyStone said:

It was definitely reduced. I used to hunt in the same spot and could make $200 an hour. Then after the update I could barely make $70 in the same time. It was not my imagination. What makes you so certain they didn't reduce them? You seem to be the only person on here who doesn't think they reduced it. But if you want to think you alone are right and everyone else is wrong then that's up to you.

Gonna repeat what MadMonkey said but... they just adjusted some prices and changed the quantity of some valuable plumes you get with the erron.

 

Thats all, they never reduced animal spawns, there was a glitch in Xbox but theres a huge difference between an accident and on purpose.

 

[gtmike]

30 minutes ago, The Deadite said:

Gonna repeat what MadMonkey said but... they just adjusted some prices and changed the quantity of some valuable plumes you get with the erron.

 

Thats all, they never reduced animal spawns, there was a glitch in Xbox but theres a huge difference between an accident and on purpose.

 

I assume you just forgot the proof, and will be adding it in soon?

 

Like I said it happened on PS4 too, and yes there is a difference between accidental and on purpose, but just saying that doesn't prove which it was...

 

The only actual fact here is that at some point there were less animals. Too many people noticed it for it to be a "conspiracy". Everything else is speculation.

[Pocket Fox]

I can't even load RDRO atm to examine animal spawns.

 

6 attempts, all no connection to R* and error blahblah 21006

 

:<

[jazzbone]

Whether uninteded or not the fact is that the February 26th update did immediately reduce the animal population.
The reduction was also not limited to the area north of Saint Denis, but was very noticeable there. PS4 included.

The animal population has since returned but the varmit rifle is still nerfed.
Maybe there are some out there that want to argue that the varmit rifle was never nerfed?

Edited June 22, 2019 by jazzbone

[Cratoz]

There definitely were less animals after the that update. Hunting is my favourite activity in this game and done so since its release.

It was the reason why I had stopped actively playing RDO for about a month, until a friend told me that the animals are spawning normally again.

 

All my friends playing this game experienced this (PS4 btw). I watched a lot of Youtubers, the comment sections were full of people experiencing the same.

 

I have specific strategies to hunt at all kind of different locations none of which worked, maybe an animal here and there. Gators north of Saint Denis would be the worst though in my experience, didn't see them for weeks back then.

Even in the mission "Highly Illegal and highly moral" which is often used to hunt in a "private" session sometimes nothing would spawn.

 

I watched livestreams, people experiencing this too, livestreams which are still up. There is a streamer who streams this game everyday and she also had to go into this mission to somewhat make animals spawn again. Also on PS4. Those streams are still up on Youtube.

 

 

I understand that plural of anecdotes is not data but this was very prevelant and and what point can we say that is wasn't just the same people "drinking kool aid" on this forum. This was an issue far spread discussed at many different platforms.

 

The only thing I say is, it most likely just wasn't an intentional thing.

[-LN-]

I didn't play as much as most back then; I think I stopped playing around the third week of March and didn't play at all again until the game came out of beta. I'm guessing it was February, but I do remember being in sessions where no animals were spawning at all, anywhere. Even if I switched lobbies, it wouldn't always correct the problem, and when they did spawn, there definitely seemed to be significantly less overall than from when I had played before (November - January).

 

The game was a complete mess; I don't think or know if the lack of animal spawns were necessarily intentional (I doubt it), but yea, they also slashed prices of what things sell for at the butcher and reduced the number of plumes from premium birds. All I know is that after the problems with animal spawns, rampant disconnects, and red dot players spawning around me when I was way out in the middle of nowhere, I was burnt the f*ck out with everything and decided to take a long, almost permament break as a result.

 

I've not run into this issue since the update though; all the lobbies that I've been in seem to have plenty of animals.

[Failed Again]

Picture this:

 

I crowd of Cavemen gathered around a newcomer. The newcomer is standing above the crowd on a rock.

He's holding up a sharpened rock, and wearing the skin on an animal.

He then proclaims" With this stone you only need to wear the skins of the dead animals!!

 

The crowd below- looks on in amazement, They are draped in the full bodies of beasts...

Gary Larson

 

maybe the animals are smarter now..

[RayD70]

42 minutes ago, -LN- said:

I didn't play as much as most back then; I think I stopped playing around the third week of March and didn't play at all again until the game came out of beta. I'm guessing it was February, but I do remember being in sessions where no animals were spawning at all, anywhere. Even if I switched lobbies, it wouldn't always correct the problem, and when they did spawn, there definitely seemed to be significantly less overall than from when I had played before (November - January).

 

The game was a complete mess; I don't think or know if the lack of animal spawns were necessarily intentional (I doubt it), but yea, they also slashed prices of what things sell for at the butcher and reduced the number of plumes from premium birds. All I know is that after the problems with animal spawns, rampant disconnects, and red dot players spawning around me when I was way out in the middle of nowhere, I was burnt the f*ck out with everything and decided to take a long, almost permament break as a result.

 

I've not run into this issue since the update though; all the lobbies that I've been in seem to have plenty of animals.

Similar for me.

 

I used to get hit with the whole "empty world" problem frequently. No animals, no fish, not even NPCs. Switching sessions fixed it, but only temporarily. Eventually it would happen again.

 

That, and the whole griefing, "some men just want to see the world burn" thing really turned me off. I walked away around mid-February IIRC. Came back with the last update when beta ended. I haven't had the no animals thing since. And the world is far more peaceful.

 

Now if only they could make the sessions more stable and stop the disconnects, and make Showdowns more reliable to join, it would be even better. Then we just need more things to do.

[Lonely-Martin]

Pretty entertaining read, we need Jerry Fletcher in here asap!

 

6 hours ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

One thing I can tell ya, I hunted there long before it became popular and the introduction of the daily challenges. The place used to be a ghost town. While everyone was watching YouTube videos on the best fishing spots and farming cops, I was making a sh*tload of money plucking plumes.

Not for this though.

 

That said, it's a Rockstar online game in the 2010's. New session or restart is standard fare.

 

I agree with @Jason. Look at that error code inconsistenty, dozens had that but others were fine. Same with this current showdown issue where some get infinite loading but others get in. The game was going through the teething phase in a beta. Inevitable really. But no conspiracy.

 

Just poorly made.

Edited June 22, 2019 by Lonely-Martin

[CMCSAVAGE]

SMFH , Don't really care if anyone disagrees, I know what my experience was. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.

[-LN-]

2 hours ago, RayD70 said:

Similar for me.

 

I used to get hit with the whole "empty world" problem frequently. No animals, no fish, not even NPCs. Switching sessions fixed it, but only temporarily. Eventually it would happen again.

 

That, and the whole griefing, "some men just want to see the world burn" thing really turned me off. I walked away around mid-February IIRC. Came back with the last update when beta ended. I haven't had the no animals thing since. And the world is far more peaceful.

 

Now if only they could make the sessions more stable and stop the disconnects, and make Showdowns more reliable to join, it would be even better. Then we just need more things to do.

Oh, yes, I've seen the lack of NPCs as well; not since the update, but back when animals weren't spawning properly.

 

I definitely agree. Overall, things are definitely more peaceful; I know that hasn't been the case for everyone, but I've not run into any serious issues myself.

 

The showdowns are an absolute disaster though; I tried again earlier for the daily challenge, but nope, I gave up after seeing the infinite loading screen yet again. We definitely need more things to do though; the next update can't come soon enough!

 

7 minutes ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

SMFH , Don't really care if anyone disagrees, I know what my experience was. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.

Hey, it's not about drinking Kool-Aid; perhaps you were lucky and some of us were not. I really don't know why what happened actually happened, but I do know that I experienced lobbies with very few animals and often, with none at all. Others that I know had the same experiences and most of us have decent enough internet connections, so I don't think it was related to that. Some things within the game were most definitely broken, but they may have not affected everyone equally. I still cannot get into showdowns (except for a few random times after I've closed my app five or six times), but some seem to be able to get in to them without much trouble at all. I'm honestly not sure.

[gtmike]

20 minutes ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

SMFH , Don't really care if anyone disagrees, I know what my experience was. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.

[infectedG636]

Ive been trying to find buffalos other than in Great Plains. Moses around the Forrests. So far no luck other than elk.

[Chunkey_Monkey]

5 minutes ago, infectedG636 said:

Ive been trying to find buffalos other than in Great Plains. Moses around the Forrests. So far no luck other than elk.

Try between the kerosene plant and emerald ranch 

[Lonely-Martin]

7 hours ago, -LN- said:

Hey, it's not about drinking Kool-Aid; perhaps you were lucky and some of us were not. I really don't know why what happened actually happened, but I do know that I experienced lobbies with very few animals and often, with none at all. Others that I know had the same experiences and most of us have decent enough internet connections, so I don't think it was related to that. Some things within the game were most definitely broken, but they may have not affected everyone equally. I still cannot get into showdowns (except for a few random times after I've closed my app five or six times), but some seem to be able to get in to them without much trouble at all. I'm honestly not sure.

That's why I believe it wasn't a nerf as had it of been, there would of been a consistency to it still I feel.

 

For some players to have no issue and some with less spawns, and some with none. It's too varied to have been deliberately manipulated. Much like that 2006 error code wasn't universal or this showdown stuff now. But alas, all is well now so that's all that matters now.

[Chunkey_Monkey]

15 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

That's why I believe it wasn't a nerf as had it of been, there would of been a consistency to it still I feel.

 

For some players to have no issue and some with less spawns, and some with none. It's too varied to have been deliberately manipulated. Much like that 2006 error code wasn't universal or this showdown stuff now. But alas, all is well now so that's all that matters now.

But there was a consistency for us that had it it was like black and white the day it needed and same when they came back both on update days with f*ck all in Bluewater marsh in between 

Edited June 22, 2019 by Mad-Monkey_1st

[Lonely-Martin]

29 minutes ago, Mad-Monkey_1st said:

But there was a consistency for us that had it it was like black and white the day it needed and same when they came back both on update days with f*ck all in Bluewater marsh in between 

That's not how to show consistency. To show it as a consistent nerfing accross the board, all players (or at least the large majority) would all have experienced the same thing.

 

Many had no animals, many had some scattered about, many had no issue. That's what I mean. It was too varied to show a consistent nerf.

 

I know I've had the odd day where my usual hunts weren't spawning, but during those 2 DLC's there was times I had no problem too. Buggy as sh*t.

 

But of course, if a player experiences an error regularly, that's consistent, but only for them if a regular issue. But it's not a consistent thing across the game as a whole and wasn't affecting everyone at the same times, which lead me to seeing it as errors and bugs.

Edited June 22, 2019 by Lonely-Martin
Wording.

[Chunkey_Monkey]

41 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

That's not how to show consistency. To show it as a consistent nerfing accross the board, all players (or at least the large majority) would all have experienced the same thing.

 

Many had no animals, many had some scattered about, many had no issue. That's what I mean. It was too varied to show a consistent nerf.

 

I know I've had the odd day where my usual hunts weren't spawning, but during those 2 DLC's there was times I had no problem too. Buggy as sh*t.

 

But of course, if a player experiences an error regularly, that's consistent, but only for them if a regular issue. But it's not a consistent thing across the game as a whole and wasn't affecting everyone at the same times, which lead me to seeing it as errors and bugs.

 But the large majority on here did experience it, players from all parts of the planet have it’s also an issue on iTunes at the time and several other forums, it was from the day feb update dropped and stayed nerfed till the day of the last update, The only time we (7 in our posse) could hunt well in Bluewater was when 4 of us did the story mission with the Marshall from near Van horn and hunt in the mission it wasn’t nerfed in mission 

 

read ads in this forum alone dozens of members have mentioned it 

I’m retired and play Apr 8 hours per day I only hunt and do stranger/story missions and I saw a major drop in spawns in Bluewater between them date it was like a switch being turne off then later back on I’m not bullsh*tting I’ve got 2 characters one to Level 177 and the second just under level 40 doing only the above stuff, 

 

The nerf didn’t affect any other area of the map 

 

it was that bad I didn’t see gators for several days at a time and birdlife IE the good stuff was so scarce it was unreal 

Edited June 22, 2019 by Mad-Monkey_1st

[Lonely-Martin]

2 minutes ago, Mad-Monkey_1st said:

 But the large majority on here did experience it, players from all parts of the planet have it’s also an issue on iTunes at the time and several other forums, it was from the day feb update dropped and stayed nerfed till the day of the last update, The only time we (7 in our posse) could hunt well in Bluewater was when 4 of us did the story mission with the Marshall from near Van horn and hunt in the mission it wasn’t nerfed in mission 

 

read ads in this forum alone dozens of members have mentioned it 

I get that there were issues and not denying that. People are saying R* deliberately nerfed animal spawning, and if you managed to hunt during that spell on missions, it only highlights further that it was bugs and not a nerf.

 

When they readjusted the feathers from exotic birds so we can only collect one from each, that affected all animals for every player, freemode or missions. So if R* had of nerfed animal spawns, it would have affected everyone like it did with the feathers obtained. It's too inconsistent to be anything other than a bug.

 

The current showdown issue isn't universal either and has dozens sharing that issue here/elsewhere. But not all players are experiencing this too. But yet no-one's thinking 'R* nerfed showdown access' which is what some are saying here with 'R* nerfed animal spawns' while others weren't affected. Makes no sense other than a bug due to how inconsistent it is accross the board.

[Jason]

16 minutes ago, Mad-Monkey_1st said:

 But the large majority on here did experience it

This forum is a tiny sample size, and when people have problems with games they tend to be vocal, it doesn't make them a majority.

[Chunkey_Monkey]

32 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

I get that there were issues and not denying that. People are saying R* deliberately nerfed animal spawning, and if you managed to hunt during that spell on missions, it only highlights further that it was bugs and not a nerf.

 

When they readjusted the feathers from exotic birds so we can only collect one from each, that affected all animals for every player, freemode or missions. So if R* had of nerfed animal spawns, it would have affected everyone like it did with the feathers obtained. It's too inconsistent to be anything other than a bug.

 

The current showdown issue isn't universal either and has dozens sharing that issue here/elsewhere. But not all players are experiencing this too. But yet no-one's thinking 'R* nerfed showdown access' which is what some are saying here with 'R* nerfed animal spawns' while others weren't affected. Makes no sense other than a bug due to how inconsistent it is accross the board.

I really don’t see how you can put anything forward as you hardly play the game you only know what you know because you read it on here your level speaks volumes in terms of personnel game knowledge. 

 

When only 2 say one thing and dozens of others on several sites say the opposite

 

I know what I’ve seen and witnessed and won’t discuss the matter anymore because it’s pointless  I refuse to get into one of your long standing arguments so that’s it as far as I’m done 

Edited June 22, 2019 by Mad-Monkey_1st

[Lonely-Martin]

13 minutes ago, Mad-Monkey_1st said:

I really don’t see how you can put anything forward as you hardly play the game you only know what you know because you read it on here your level speaks volumes in terms of personnel game knowledge. 

 

When only 2 say one thing and dozens of others on several sites say the opposite

 

I know what I’ve seen and witnessed and won’t discuss the matter anymore because it’s pointless 

Because you're wrong more like, lol. I've been a day one player that has played spells during all but about 5 days, lol. I think if you need to make false assumptions because you can't discuss shows the issue here.

 

Of course, I could play more but there is little reason to play more than an hour a day for me. But that's more than long enough to notice any tweaks or consistent changes. I don't need to be hardcore to see that. Be fair.

 

Anyway, consistency is key to highlight a nerf, it's that simple. It has to affect all, not dozens. C'mon!

 

If some have no issue, including you in missions, it's not a universal thing. It's very clear it was yet another bug during a buggy period on many things thus game had going for it.

 

It's like saying the 2006 error code booting folk offline was deliberate or the current issues with the showdowns is deliberate from R* too, that stupid. There is many, including me and you that during that spell could hunt just fine, or were they nerfing different people on different days, lol.

38 minutes ago, Jason said:

This forum is a tiny sample size, and when people have problems with games they tend to be vocal, it doesn't make them a majority.

Always, GTA too. 

Edited June 22, 2019 by Lonely-Martin
Autospell fail

[CMCSAVAGE]

17 hours ago, -LN- said:

Hey, it's not about drinking Kool-Aid; perhaps you were lucky and some of us were not. I really don't know why what happened actually happened, but I do know that I experienced lobbies with very few animals and often, with none at all. 

Yeah it is, if you believe that this "nerf" was intentional to prevent people from making money. I'm not doubting nor disagreeing with anyone's experience, but at the same time, no one can tell me I'm wrong in what I experienced.

 

Overall, there's just too many inconsistencies among those that experienced this so called "nerf".  Some say, reduced to none at all, a post above says they saw no alligators for weeks. At best it was a bug that didn't affect everyone equally. 

 

 

[-LN-]

13 minutes ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

Yeah it is, if you believe that this "nerf" was intentional to prevent people from making money. I'm not doubting nor disagreeing with anyone's experience, but at the same time, no one can tell me I'm wrong in what I experienced.

 

Overall, there's just too many inconsistencies among those that experienced this so called "nerf".  Some say, reduced to none at all, a post above says they saw no alligators for weeks. At best it was a bug that didn't affect everyone equally. 

 

Oh, no, I never thought it was intentional nor am I doubting what you experienced at all. I just know that both I and quite a few of my friends had lots of issues with animals either not spawning entirely or seeing very few of them on average compared to the way things were before.

 

The reduction of plumes and nerfed butcher prices were most definitely a deliberate attempt to prevent players from making too much money and/or trying to 'balance' the economy in their eyes, but when it comes to the spawns, I'm more inclined to believe that things were just broken, as they've always been to some degree.

Edited June 22, 2019 by -LN-

[AmyStone]

39 minutes ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

Yeah it is, if you believe that this "nerf" was intentional to prevent people from making money. I'm not doubting nor disagreeing with anyone's experience, but at the same time, no one can tell me I'm wrong in what I experienced.

 

Overall, there's just too many inconsistencies among those that experienced this so called "nerf".  Some say, reduced to none at all, a post above says they saw no alligators for weeks. At best it was a bug that didn't affect everyone equally. 

 

 

I think it was intentional. And when we had the update a couple of months back and it was mentioned that they didn't want players to grind as much and all of a sudden more animals suddenly appeared and assumed that's what they were talking about. All of the people I play with noticed it and for a day or 2 we all felt it was like Christmas with all the animals that were around. 

[CMCSAVAGE]

2 minutes ago, -LN- said:

Oh, no, I never thought it was intentional nor am I doubting what you experienced at all. 

I didn't mean "you" personally, it was meant as whoever.

[CMCSAVAGE]

52 minutes ago, AmyStone said:

I think it was intentional. And when we had the update a couple of months back and it was mentioned that they didn't want players to grind as much and all of a sudden more animals suddenly appeared and assumed that's what they were talking about. All of the people I play with noticed it and for a day or 2 we all felt it was like Christmas with all the animals that were around. 

How could it be intentional but didn't affect everyone equally? If they actually did something on purpose then it would've affected 100% of the players on both platforms. How can someone claim not seeing alligators for weeks when I was skinning them everyday?

[Jason]

Personally I honestly can't remember if I noticed reduced spawns or not, I didn't play that much in that period. I may have commented on it, idk. From my experience though RDO has this weird problem where players either have no problems or all the problems.

 

After the recent major update (before the hotfixes), many people going by this forum were experiencing crashes and disconnects, which gave some the idea that that the update broke the game. Some of us however weren't experiencing any crashes or DC's.

 

RDO is just... weird. I wanna say it's likely tied to where the player is located and latency/packet loss to the servers or other players or something. It is kinda strange how some people will experience lots of issues with the game and the rest will experience little to none. There doesn't seem to be an inbetween, at least if there is those people aren't being vocal about it.