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Eugene H. Krabs

Which choices do you think Niko would have taken?

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As we all know, GTA IV has the ability to kill or spare certain characters, and there's also the 2 big endings you have to choose. Feel free to tell which choices you believe Niko would've taken and why

 

  • Ivan
  • Cherise
  • Kill Playboy X or Dwayne
  • Clarence
  • Kill Francis or Derrick
  • Darko
  • Take the deal, or take revenge
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El Penguin Bobo

Well, I would just put it up like this.

 

If Niko killed Darko, he wouldn't pick Revenge because he realized that revenge wasn't the answer and he feels empty after shooting him 12 times...

 

However, if he didn't kill Darko, he would probably go after Dimitri since he's a snake and he wanted him killed from the start.

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billiejoearmstrong8

The beauty of it is either choice each time is plausible and canon. According to Niko's personality I think any combination can be justified and it just slightly changes his story in different ways. 

 

But from my impression of him I think he would spare Ivan and Clarence, since if he can still get paid and as a bonus spite the guy who's paying him without murdering someone he probably would. He'd also spare Cherise as he really has no good reason to kill her. 

 

I have a hard time justifying him killing either Dwayne or Playboy tbh, but I think he would go for Playboy since there's really no strong reason to kill either so he'd probably go for the more moral and loyal choice (ie killing the guy who asked you to kill the other guy). Also fits in with his personality trait of not always simply doing as he's told when he can help it. I don't think the cash for killing Dwayne would sway it, since although he does work as a hitman for money he isn't really as desperate for it as he makes out (in order to justify his crimes to himself) and missing out on one payout isn't really a huge problem.

 

I think he would kill Francis. When I look at him and Derrick I can see bad things about both their characters and I personally dislike Derrick more. But I think when it comes down to it his choice would be based on loyalty rather than character judgement - he kills the guy who's blackmailed him to work for him and spares the guy who's family/gang he's become friends with (Francis not really counting as part of the family) and who he's worked for on fair terms. Same thing as with Playboy/Dwayne regarding the cash reward.

 

With Darko I think killing him just takes it. Killing him like he wanted for so long makes sense, but so does realising it won't change anything and/or that he's probably going to suffer more left alive so sparing him. But I think the possible view of it where it's kind of a case of just delivering justice at this point, or the possibility that he might even feel it's more merciful to kill him once he sees what a mess he is regardless of whether he thinks it'll bring him satisfaction or not means there's more scenarios where killing him would be the choice.

 

Deal or revenge is also a tough one. I like to think he'd go with some kind of deal over the chance of killing Dimitri if he really thought it was a way out. But I can't believe he really would trust Dimitri enough to take the chance of doing a deal with him of all people. So I think he'd pick revenge, not necessarily because of blood lust for Dimitri but more because of not trusting the deal option he's given.

 

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TheSantader25

Spares Ivan. 

Kills Clarence. 

Spares Cherise. 

Kills PBX. 

Kills Francis(though I always kill Derrick) 

Kills Darko. 

Picks Deal. 

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santosvagos
1 minute ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

The beauty of it is either choice each time is plausible and canon. According to Niko's personality I think any combination can be justified and it just slightly changes his story in different ways. 

 

But from my impression of him I think he would spare Ivan and Clarence, since if he can still get paid and as a bonus spite the guy who's paying him without murdering someone he probably would. He'd also spare Cherise as he really has no good reason to kill her. 

 

I have a hard time justifying him killing either Dwayne or Playboy tbh, but I think he would go for Playboy since there's really no strong reason to kill either so he'd probably go for the more moral and loyal choice (ie killing the guy who asked you to kill the other guy). Also fits in with his personality trait of not always simply doing as he's told when he can help it.

 

I think he would kill Francis. When I look at him and Derrick I can see bad things about both their characters. But I think when it comes down to it his choice would be based on loyalty rather than character judgement - he kills the guy who's blackmailed him to work for him and spares the guy who's family/gang he's become friends with (Francis not really counting as part of the family) and who he's worked for on fair terms. 

 

With Darko I think killing him just takes it. Killing him like he wanted for so long makes sense, but so does realising it won't change anything and/or that he's probably going to suffer more left alive so sparing him. But I think the possible view of it where it's kind of a case of just delivering justice at this point, or the possibility that he might even feel it's more merciful to kill him once he sees what a mess he is regardless of whether he thinks it'll bring him satisfaction or not means there's more scenarios where killing him would be the choice.

 

Deal or revenge is also a tough one. I like to think he'd go with some kind of deal over the chance of killing Dimitri if he really thought it was a way out. But I can't believe he really would trust Dimitri enough to take the chance of doing a deal with him of all people. So I think he'd pick revenge, not necessarily because of blood lust for Dimitri but more because of not trusting the deal option he's given.

 

I agree with you but i don't think Niko won't take the chance to deal with that rat Dimitri . He swore to himself that he would track down and kill Dimitri after Roman was captured by Russians . With Niko 's personality , he never broke his oath that he swore to himself .

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billiejoearmstrong8
12 minutes ago, santosvagos said:

I agree with you but i don't think Niko won't take the chance to deal with that rat Dimitri . He swore to himself that he would track down and kill Dimitri after Roman was captured by Russians . With Niko 's personality , he never broke his oath that he swore to himself .

I think if he somehow either had the chance to take revenge on Dimitri, or do a different deal that got him out of everything but left Dimitri unharmed he would take the deal, because there are things more important to him than getting revenge even if he's sworn to it. But yeah doing a direct deal with Dimitri like that, I think he just wouldn't trust him enough to take the chance. Especially when it come from Jimmy who he has no particular reason to trust either.

 

I guess the way I see it when choosing revenge is it's less like "hell yeah let's take revenge!" by this point and more just that the deal isn't trustworthy so it seems like the better choice to try and eliminate him. I think his number one thing by then, especially after finding Darko and not being satisfied whether he gets his revenge or not, is trying to work out which way has a better chance of getting himself/Roman out of trouble.

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7 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

I think if he somehow either had the chance to take revenge on Dimitri, or do a different deal that got him out of everything but left Dimitri unharmed he would take the deal, because there are things more important to him than getting revenge even if he's sworn to it. But yeah doing a direct deal with Dimitri like that, I think he just wouldn't trust him enough to take the chance. Especially when it come from Jimmy who he has no particular reason to trust either.

 

I guess the way I see it when choosing revenge is it's less like "hell yeah let's take revenge!" by this point and more just that the deal isn't trustworthy so it seems like the better choice to try and eliminate him. I think his number one thing by then, especially after finding Darko and not being satisfied whether he gets his revenge or not, is trying to work out which way has a better chance of getting himself/Roman out of trouble.

Dude he wouldn’t deal with Dimitri. He had Nikos cousin Roman as a hostage as well as made their lives a living hell. Niko wouldn’t think one second about letting Dimitri slip away and to deal with him.

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billiejoearmstrong8
1 hour ago, Duhillestpunk said:

Dude he wouldn’t deal with Dimitri. He had Nikos cousin Roman as a hostage as well as made their lives a living hell. Niko wouldn’t think one second about letting Dimitri slip away and to deal with him.

I agree he probably wouldn't do a deal with Dimitri. But hypothetically if he had the option to either do a deal with someone else and get out of trouble, or to get revenge on Dimitri, I think he'd prioritise getting out of trouble and let him go is what I'm saying. He'd like to get revenge on him but it's not the only factor on his mind, imo not trusting Dimitri and not believing the deal will go through is probably a bigger motivator in deciding to go and take him out instead than just pure drive for revenge.

 

Also he's messed up in the head after confronting Darko. He isn't satisfied whether he kills or spares him and it might've changed his whole mindset, at the point where the deal/revenge decision comes up he's pretty much a broken man. I think in that state either decision can be justified because he isn't necessarily rational or in the same state of mind he's been in for most of the game at that point. Depending on previous choices or the way you look at things he could be more up for revenge or more looking for any way out.

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jaylen pizarro

 spare ivan

 kill cherise

kill playboy x

spare clarence

kill francis

spare darko

take revenge

 

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lol232

Spares everyone, kills Playboy and Derrick, takes Revenge.

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Limefong

Spares Ivan

Kills Clarence

Kills Cherise

Kills PBX

Kills Francis

Kills Darko

Takes Revenge

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Utopianthumbs

Niko would spare those that can be spared. Like he says in the story, he's got no problems in sparing a few lives

 

Niko would kill Playboy and Francis. Don't think Niko would turn on his pals though they may be shady too, but Niko empathizes with Dwayne and robbed a bank with Derrick, I don't think he'd turn on them for money cause he has his own set of principles and I think he woudn't be disloyal to those he's allied with/considers a friend

 

Niko would kill Darko. I just don't see him carrying all that rage for a decade to spare him in the end. The execution scene also feels like it's got to be canon

 

Niko would do the Deal. I think this because regardless of what you choose with Darko, Niko comes out of it thinking revenge isn't the answer. Plus Roman was almost hammering it to Niko that he needs to do the Deal and I think Niko would want to indulge the soon to be married Roman and wouldn't want to mess his marriage up by going for Revenge and potentially  causing more problems for them

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NewGuybj

if he kills Dwaybe, he feels bad about it, the same when he kills Derrick. So, i choose who is moraly better choice.

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Ivan: Spare

Cherise: Spare

Playboy X or Dwayne: Kill Playboy X

Clarence: Spare (Niko kills him later on anyways)

 

I feel like most of the "Niko" choices are obvious except for The McReary brothers, Darko, and Deal/Revenge.

 

Francis or Derrick: Kill Derrick.

Most people vote for killing Francis, but I disagree. Morally speaking Derrick is actually the worst, Francis at least tries to do right by joining the LCPD even if he's corrupt. I think Niko would also choose Derrick because Francis has a file on him and killing him probably won't get rid of it. Niko also benefits more by keeping him alive, as he'll be able to call Francis to keep the cops off his back. Another factor into this choice is Packie, who leaves to go to LS. Packie wouldn't leave his mother unless there was someone else in the family looking after her. Gerry is in prison, Derrick would be too strung out, and Kate would be dead, so that leaves Francis. To top it all off, if I'm not mistaken Packie also mentions that Derrick died in GTA V.

 

Darko: Spare.

This is the toughest decision. Niko is just as likely to empty 12 rounds into Darko as he is leaving him to suffer in Liberty City. I think sparing Darko is more fitting as it makes good development for Niko, who kills for a living and spent years searching to kill Darko. Roman is the key factor in this decision, he's always trying to convince Niko to stop seeking revenge and to get out of the criminal lifestyle. And now during the ultimate choice he's beside Niko, telling him to just leave. Niko doesn't listen to Roman much throughout the story, and they tend to argue their differences about life often. So listening to Roman now would be a good turning point for Niko's character without killing him off, which leads to...

 

Deal or Revenge: Revenge.

The obvious reason in choosing this is to avoid Roman's death, but there are other reasons. Unlike Darko, Dimitri is a new, much bigger enemy. He's connected to Bulgarin, is slowly taking over the city, and thus is a big presence in both Niko and Roman's lives. This is the perfect opportunity to take him out, not because Niko is still after revenge but because he has to protect himself and his family, because no matter what Dimitri will keep coming after him. Besides, I can't picture Niko ever working with Dimitri again after all he's done, and the argument between him and Pegorino before the mission explains it perfectly.

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gravejailer
On 6/18/2019 at 6:19 AM, Eugene H. Krabs said:

As we all know, GTA IV has the ability to kill or spare certain characters, and there's also the 2 big endings you have to choose. Feel free to tell which choices you believe Niko would've taken and why Ivy League Schools

 

  • Ivan
  • Cherise
  • Kill Playboy X or Dwayne
  • Clarence
  • Kill Francis or Derrick
  • Darko
  • Take the deal, or take revenge

With Darko I think killing him just takes it. Killing him like he wanted for so long makes sense, but so does realising it won't change anything and/or that he's probably going to suffer more left alive so sparing him.

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Americana

Hmm... I think that Niko would kill Darko, and that's what I do whenever I replay the game. I don't really know about the ending... I mean, it would be kind of expected for Niko to choose Revenge, but... I'm not sure about that.

 

Also, I think that Niko would kill Francis, but I don't think that would be a good choice. Same goes with Playboy X...

 

When it comes to every other character, I think he would kill all of them, except Cherise. 

 


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