Does anyone still play the campaign?

[Dryspace]

55 minutes ago, Payne said:

The mission, characters, story, cutscenes are trash for real. This isnt official complaining thread but there are reasons why someone may not still play the campaign.

Do you like the gameplay? Because for me, the characterization/cutscenes/dialogue is a primary reason why I kept playing, and why I ended up enjoying the game. I think what little traditional gameplay the game has ranges from mediocre to flawed.

 

I haven't played earlier games yet, so if you're speaking from a perspective of disappointment at those things being relatively worse, then I could understand. A sequel can't be judged entirely on its own merits after all.

[Nappy]

What i like: -Driving isn't so good but may be fun at times

-Customising weapons is good

-The world and Countryside is great

-Enemy AI is challenging

-Movement is smooth

-Graphics are great

 

What I dislike: -Story never focuses on anything and doesn't make much sense, not much things to do about crime organizations aside from a few missions.

-Physics are pretty bad compared to other rockstar games.

-Too many jokes that stop being funny after some time.

-The missions goes on a straight way and you rarely choose to do anything other than what the game tells you.

-Personal vehicles are pain, the money on their accounts at the end seriously Don't mean much.

Also: https://gtaforums.com/topic/645812-gta-iii-is-a-much-better-game-than-gta-v/?do=findComment&comment=1071073994

 

1 hour ago, Dryspace said:

I haven't played earlier games yet

Why not

[Dryspace]

44 minutes ago, Payne said:

What i like:

-Driving isn't so good but may be fun at times

(Exactly. Very limited, though.)

-The world and Countryside is great

(Exactly)

-Graphics are great

(Exactly)

 

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What I dislike:

-Physics are pretty bad compared to other rockstar games.

(They're pretty bad compared to other games in general.)

-The missions goes on a straight way and you rarely choose to do anything other than what the game tells you.

(That's one of my problems with the gameplay. I don't like being told literally exactly what to do and how to do it--especially in an open world game. I like to actually control my character, to be given an objective and set free to accomplish that in any way that's possible within the game's rules.)

-Personal vehicles are pain, the money on their accounts at the end seriously Don't mean much.

(It's been pointed out that the way vehicles are handled is pretty lame for a game titled 'Grand Theft Auto'.)

 

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Why not

Because I don't want to spend any money until I figure out exactly what I should buy, where I should buy it, and what I need to do in order to play a game the way it was originally intended. And then I have to wait until a sale, as I'm not going to pay full price for all of them (unless I have to buy a disc version on eBay or something). At least one of the games on Steam is a port of a telephone port, at least one is missing the soundtrack, and I'm not willing to play a game without its original soundtrack.

 

I want to at least try San Andreas and GTA IV before I replay GTAV, but I've just been procrastinating.

Edited February 10, 2020 by Dryspace

[Nappy]

Also buy EFLC's disc too for special radio stations.

[billiejoearmstrong8]

6 hours ago, Dryspace said:

-Driving isn't so good but may be fun at times

(Exactly. Very limited, though.)

-The world and Countryside is great

(Exactly)

-Graphics are great

(Exactly)

 

-Physics are pretty bad compared to other rockstar games.

(They're pretty bad compared to other games in general.)

-The missions goes on a straight way and you rarely choose to do anything other than what the game tells you.

(That's one of my problems with the gameplay. I don't like being told literally exactly what to do and how to do it--especially in an open world game. I like to actually control my character, to be given an objective and set free to accomplish that in any way that's possible within the game's rules.)

-Personal vehicles are pain, the money on their accounts at the end seriously Don't mean much.

(It's been pointed out that the way vehicles are handled is pretty lame for a game titled 'Grand Theft Auto'.)

 

Because I don't want to spend any money until I figure out exactly what I should buy, where I should buy it, and what I need to do in order to play a game the way it was originally intended. And then I have to wait until a sale, as I'm not going to pay full price for all of them (unless I have to buy a disc version on eBay or something). At least one of the games on Steam is a port of a telephone port, at least one is missing the soundtrack, and I'm not willing to play a game without its original soundtrack.

 

I want to at least try San Andreas and GTA IV before I replay GTAV, but I've just been procrastinating.

If you enjoy the characterization and dialogue etc definitely play GTA IV (and EFLC)! The writing and story are amazing. Personally I love the gameplay, physics and everything else about it as well, couldn't recommend it highly enough. I played V for years before finally getting off it to give IV a try and I was blown away by it. 3D era games are a step back since they're not as advanced but San Andreas and Vice City are still brilliant games too.

Edited February 11, 2020 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Dryspace]

10 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

If you enjoy the characterization and dialogue etc definitely play GTA IV (and EFLC)!...

Did you play it on PC? Is that the one that is incapable of achieving 60 fps on any HW? I was wondering if you had any advice, or if the game is pretty much complete and playable beside the performance problem.

[Nappy]

Gta IV Pc version is trash as far as everybody knows, but the graphics still hold up so well(only on pc tho). if you lower down some setting you may get 60fps. Xbox One X plays it on 60fps but graphics are as the same as in 360 version(which is outdated). Pc is the way to go, i’d play it on pc if i had the chance.

Edited February 11, 2020 by Payne
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[billiejoearmstrong8]

1 hour ago, Dryspace said:

Did you play it on PC? Is that the one that is incapable of achieving 60 fps on any HW? I was wondering if you had any advice, or if the game is pretty much complete and playable beside the performance problem.

No sorry only played on console

Edited February 11, 2020 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Excalibur Voltaire]

16 hours ago, Dryspace said:

Did you play it on PC? Is that the one that is incapable of achieving 60 fps on any HW? I was wondering if you had any advice, or if the game is pretty much complete and playable beside the performance problem.

The game, while a bit clunky and suffering from some technical bugs at times is still generally enjoyable, especially on patch 1.0.7.0

 

However, the game has gamebreaking bugs if you played it above 60 FPS where you can't complete the final mission. Also cutscene is always blurry and also zoomed in if you are playing above 60 fps. I would suggest to keep the the framerate on 30 or below 60 to keep the game stable, because the game tend to be buggy if you are playing above 60

 

On topic: I'm currently taking a hiatus on RDRII after playing it for 4 month nonstop so I'm going to play V singleplayer just to mess around with mods, I doubt I'll replay the game though

 

I also just recently completed IV too after leaving the game for 6 months, I might also gonna complete EFLC too..

[Nappy]

Back on topic. It is incredibly stupid how Trevor ignores the whole drug business and all he does is come back and say "how's the f*ckin business?!". I like him and mike were f*ckin with the merrywhether(one of the things I like most about T), however still, I'd rather see him doin his own deals instead of wipin mikes ass

[smokeless6]

About a month back I finished the story mode again. I play on PC full time first person. I had fun, though not as much as when it was all new, and it went quite a bit faster as well as I spent less time doing pointless stuff and made better use of my time. Sometimes just chillin' is all I want to do, but on the whole it was more streamlined the second time around.

 

I also made a lot more money. The first time through I didn't really play the stock market and assassinations to my advantage. The second time through I saved two assassinations for after the big score. That let me have some good money during story mode, and also to make bank after the end. All three characters ended the game with more than 150 million, which is far below what you can make, but allowed me to have spending money throughout the game for vehicles, aircraft, properties or whatever. And that's enough to buy just about anything you might want. Franklin for example, went crazy buying up supercars and helicopters.

 

The first time I played, as soon as the story was complete, I went over to GTAO. The last time, I kept playing trying to get 100%. I am almost there, but the collectibles requirements did me in. I just don't have the desire to hunt them down. The only way I'd ever pull it off is to follow a guide, and I don't want to play like this.

 

I enjoyed many of the missions, I like the cars, the golf, skydiving, stunt jumps. Los Santos is one of the best game worlds ever made. I like the music, the satire and the irreverence. I absolutely love flying helicopters in Los Santos. I come from a flight sim background, like Falcon 4 and it's ilk, and even though the flight models are basic, and using a controller instead of a HOTAS feels limiting, I can easily forget all of that because flying on this map is so much fun.

 

GTA V is a great game. Honestly, I wouldn't have given it a go if they hadn't added first person. But that sealed the deal and it became one of my favorite games, both single player and GTAO which I play just about every day.

Edited February 14, 2020 by smokeless6

[Dryspace]

1 hour ago, smokeless6 said:

GTA V is a great game. Honestly, I wouldn't have given it a go if they hadn't added first person. But that sealed the deal...

Yeah, I always ignored GTA. I recall the timeframe around when I started seeing the "Liberty City" stuff on Steam. I didn't know anything about GTA, I didn't understand anything about it, but I just assumed it was garbage for some reason, lol.

 

But early 2016 I happened to come across an article online about the PC version of GTA V. I was specifically impressed with the screenshots--they looked like they depicted a really immersive and realistic world that I could explore (certified Explorer here). I was encouraged by the description of the port as being very well done with lots of settings and user customization options, in contrast with most ports. It was when I read that a first-person mode was implemented that I became excited at the prospect of being able to properly experience the world, and made the decision to pick it up.

 

It turned out that the world was even more amazing than I had imagined. It was the first open-world game I had ever played in which there was no obvious repetition of assets, and the fact that it's so much larger than other game worlds with copy/paste assets--made for the same hardware--is that much more impressive.

 

Though the basal gameplay is weak, no aspect of the game is poor enough to ruin it, and several aspects are mind-blowing enough to make it an overall great experience.

[Nappy]

The world is top notch. I’d wish we saw more of it in missions instead of scripted style. The world sadly shines more in side missions and free roam sadly.

Edited February 15, 2020 by Payne
Sadly sadly sadly

[smokeless6]

18 hours ago, Dryspace said:

Yeah, I always ignored GTA. I recall the timeframe around when I started seeing the "Liberty City" stuff on Steam. I didn't know anything about GTA, I didn't understand anything about it, but I just assumed it was garbage for some reason, lol.

 

GTA V is the first GTA game i got in to, though I did buy San Andreas many moons ago, but never gave it much of a shake. It didn't click with me and I shelved it. I recall reading reviews when GTA V hit consoles in 2013. It was intriguing, but if I were to try it, it would be when they ported it to PC. When they did that, and added first person, I thought it was worth a punt, if for no other reason than to give me something very different to play than my normal gaming fare.

 

I didn't assume it would be bad, the opposite in fact, but wondered if it would be for me. Good games can fail to light my fire for any number of reasons. But I was hooked right from that first mission with Lamar where you each jack a whip and take off racing through the streets.

 

 

 

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Though the basal gameplay is weak, no aspect of the game is poor enough to ruin it, and several aspects are mind-blowing enough to make it an overall great experience.

 

I have to agree. The aircraft and vehicles physics are funky, the shooting mechanics and movement (in first person anyway) are awkward. I could name a dozen things that are poorly implemented. But it's the experience, the atmosphere, the vibe that shines. The sum is far greater than the parts. It took first person to do it for me, but existing in the world is fantastic and fun. As mentioned, I think Los Santos is one of the best game worlds ever made. It's so convincing, yet just under the surface are all these weird and whacky and wonderful things to do or discover. I can base jump off a skyscraper, then run a motorcycle race in heavy traffic, then watch Princess Robot Bubblegum and then knock off a store and escape by helicopter. So much variety, so much to see and do. Few of the cogs in this machine would succeed as standalone. I wouldn't buy this as a street racer or a flight sim. But mix it all together and it's one of my favorite games ever.

Edited February 15, 2020 by smokeless6