Why Sonny did it?

[MrAlexxV 37]

When I think of Tommy's life back in LC when he used to work for Sonny,  it makes me think of why Sonny set him up back in 1971..If Tommy was working for him normally..was doing all the dirty work for Sonny. I just don't understand why he did that?  If it was a joke then it was a freaking BAD joke..

What are your thoughts about that? What reason had Sonny to set Tommy up? and pull strings to get him 15 years instead of a lifetime sentence?

[Deep Verma 92]

Me too wondering why the heck Salvatore never killed CJ but tried to wipe out Claude. Maybe he later came to know about CJ's betrayal. OR PlotLine.

 

 

[MrAlexxV 37]

tbh not the reply i was expecting but ok, I dont care much about CJ or Claude or even Salvatore Leon, for me its more Tommy V..Guess Salvatore had a tooth on Claude..or however u say that..

[Cjrememberthat 179]

Plothole?

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Maybe Sonny was concerned that Tommy was too ambitious and opportunistic and a threat to his position. Or Sonny was jealous of his huge cojones.

Edited June 2, 2019 by perennial

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18 hours ago, Deep Verma said:

Me too wondering why the heck Salvatore never killed CJ but tried to wipe out Claude. Maybe he later came to know about CJ's betrayal. OR PlotLine.

 

 

I always mentioned this but gta logic sh*ts on everything like I always say 

Edited June 3, 2019 by Big_Smiley

[Copcaller 554]

Was likely jealous of Tommy and viewed him as a threat/rival figuring he could kill him before he became too troublesome. 

[MrAlexxV 37]

pretty much could be..who knows..but I liked yall responses..

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Because Sonny was jealous of Tommy's 14 inch member

[TheSantader25 6,684]

Sonny was gay. He wanted a threesome with Tommy and Ken but Tommy wouldn't accept that. Him and Ken were already engaged. Sonny got pissed and set them up. If it wasn't for Franklin(CJ's great grandfather) Tommy would have been killed. Franklin persuaded Sonny that Jail time is a good enough punishment for Tommy. 

Edited June 3, 2019 by TheSantader25

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6 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Sonny was gay. He wanted a threesome with Tommy and Ken but Tommy wouldn't accept that. Him and Ken were already engaged. Sonny got pissed and set them up. If it wasn't for Franklin(CJ's great grandfather) Tommy would have been killed. Franklin persuaded Sonny that Jail time is a good enough punishment for Tommy. 

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8 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Sonny was gay. He wanted a threesome with Tommy and Ken but Tommy wouldn't accept that. Him and Ken were already engaged. Sonny got pissed and set them up. If it wasn't for Franklin(CJ's great grandfather) Tommy would have been killed. Franklin persuaded Sonny that Jail time is a good enough punishment for Tommy. 

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[MrAlexxV 37]

11 hours ago, TheSantader25 said:

If it wasn't for Franklin(CJ's great grandfather) Tommy would have been killed.

Is that so or just your thoughts? i mean i never really went thru CJ's history..cuz never cared about SA much..no offense to SA lovers..

NAH..Tommy isnt gay for sure..Even if he didnt want to have anything with that slut mercedes or candy doesnt mean he's gay...ofc u can try to say otherwise but i refuse to believe Tommy is gay..nah.. 

Edited June 3, 2019 by MrAlexxV

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On 6/4/2019 at 1:05 AM, MrAlexxV said:

Is that so or just your thoughts? i mean i never really went thru CJ's history..cuz never cared about SA much..no offense to SA lovers..

NAH..Tommy isnt gay for sure..Even if he didnt want to have anything with that slut mercedes or candy doesnt mean he's gay...ofc u can try to say otherwise but i refuse to believe Tommy is gay..nah.. 

Nah he meant Niko(franklin's ex girlfriend), if it wasn't for niko, tommy would have really been killed for sure, niko told frank that he doesn't want tommy to get killed so franklin threatened sonny along with trevor and tommy went to jail instead

Edited June 5, 2019 by Cjrememberthat

[MrAlexxV 37]

I guess theyre somehow really all related to each other lol..

[Guest]

There's no real clear cut reasoning for Sonny's betrayal canon wise atleast so all you're really left with is supposition and hypothesis. What we know for sure is relatively simple; Tommy Vercetti was essentially a hitman as part of the Forelli Family, and from the Keep Your Friends Close cutscene at the end we can somewhat assume he was well embedded in the family due to Sonny's mentioning that  "I pulled strings, called in favours" and Tommy's remark of "I'm a bit rusty on family etiquette." - while this doesn't give us any clear indication as to why Sonny betrayed Tommy, it shows that Tommy was (presumably) in a position of power and from that the only reason I can think of for Sonny's betrayal is that he was concerned about his rising prominence in the family and opted to take care of it. We know this backfired as Tommy survived the assassination attempt, killed everyone involved and was in prison for 15 years however this only adds to his notoriety due to him gaining the name "The Harwood Butcher" and Sonny mentioning in the introductary cutscene "People will remember soon enough. When they see him walking down the streets of their neighborhoods, it will be bad for business.". This further cements the idea that Sonny merely considers Vercetti as a disposable pawn in his game; for one he had absolutely no qualms trying to get him killed, and two instead of welcoming him back to Liberty he is more concerned about their business and decides to ship Tommy off to Vice City to get involved in the drugs trade which none of the other families will be involved with. In that scenario there's pretty much two outcomes; everything goes fine or it goes wrong and Tommy will be the fall guy - then Vice City itself starts.

 

Yeah, it's pretty much just conjecture, supposition and guess work as to the real reasoning behind Sonny's decision but in my opinion that makes the most sense.

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Seems to me that Vercetti as a young adult was motivated to do what ever it takes to rise in the criminal underwood. Wiling to kill the man he was sent to kill only to be backstabbed by Sonny in a double cross betrayal made him realize that business there is no friends & family.  Now that he's out after 15 years, he believes that its his turn to take over, something that should have been his since he started in the business. Sonny saw a hungry driven young Tommy and decided to betray him because it threaten his opportunity of running the Forelli crime family.