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K^2

Marvel's Avengers

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Coming to PS4, XBox One, Stadia, and PC on May 15th, 2020.

 

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Jason
Posted (edited)

plsbegoodplsbegoodplsbegoodplsbegood

 

Been waiting for this for a long, long time Square/Crystal, don't f*ck it up.

 

Edit: Was reading on ResetEra, someone who sounds like he may have a bit of knowledge in the game stated that it's a story focused single player / 4 player co-op experience. Single player is played alongside AI. Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel) will apparently be one of the first characters you use before the roster opens up. Post launch DLC will be largely made up of cosmetic DLC.

 

Sounds good to me, honestly, sounds perfect. Hopefully they don't limit all the good costumes to DLC.

Edited by Jason

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Tchuck

Nice! Finally they announced it! Got some friends working on this project at Square Enix. Been in development since before I left. Don't know much about the details, but I know it's going to look pretty damn good.

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MostWantedMVP

 

 

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Gtaman_92

They better have Black Panther on there.

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Furry_Monkey

You can be Thanos, but when you attacc there's a 50/50 chance that you might die instead of your opponent.

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MostWantedMVP

I hope this is as good as Spider-Man. I've got a gut feeling, not good or bad just something in between. I guess we'll find out in just over 3 hours.

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Zello
11 minutes ago, MostWantedMVP said:

I hope this is as good as Spider-Man. I've got a gut feeling, not good or bad just something in between. I guess we'll find out in just over 3 hours.

Fingers crossed it's not a live service game.

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Jason
14 minutes ago, Zello said:

Fingers crossed it's not a live service game.

It is, this has been known for yonks now lol. They plan to support it after launch with new content. Any game supported post launch = live service game.

 

Whether it's online only or not we'll see, I doubt it will be my self but yea, we'll see.

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MostWantedMVP
Posted (edited)

I'm actually excited to see the gameplay and to play as The Hulk, other than Spider-Man he was my favorite superhero as a kid. I have fond memories of the Hulk PS2 game.

 

All will be revealed soon. 👀

Edited by MostWantedMVP

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JC_HUMBLE

Looks good... I guess. Thoughts?

Yeah Nolan & Troy 

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MostWantedMVP
Posted (edited)

Looks decent. Not sure yet. Need to see more gameplay.

 

It is a live service game which is a shame. Why on earth didn't they make it like Spider-Man PS4.

Edited by MostWantedMVP

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Jason

Looked like an AAA Avengers game. Would love to say I was blown away, but at this point if you aint showing gameplay you can f*ck off. This E3 has been an absolute mess for that, at least it was in-engine I guess. Sounds like the game is on the show floor playable so hooooopefully we'll see some gameplay come out soon?

 

From what we saw though it was impossible to get an idea on the gameplay but visually it looked fine, some of the character models were hmmmm but I guess it's cause we're so used to the MCU actors at this point. Not keen on Cap's costume though, I'll say that, but Thor's looked good. Also they were kinda vague on the roster at launch? Is it just the MCU OG6 minus Hawkeye or what? There's rumours that Ms Marvel (Khamala Khan) plays a role and that might have been her voice in the voice over in the trailer but we'll have to wait and see I guess.

 

Free post launch content for years to come sounds fine and all but what exactly are they monetising to support that is the question. Are we gonna get $20 skins or something?

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JC_HUMBLE
6 minutes ago, MostWantedMVP said:

Looks decent. Not sure yet. Need to see more gameplay.

 

It is a live service game which is a shame. Why on earth didn't they make it like Spider-Man PS4.

Oh no I just heard that... such a shame

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Tchuck

Looks nice. But I don't care for it. The moment I heard the voices and saw the faces.... Man I'd care much more for it if they looked more like the actors in the movies. Of course, it would cost way more to do so, but would be better imo.

 

But then they have "an original story" to justify it and I just... Don't care for it. After Endgame, it's hard to think about the Avengers, specially since this game would be set sometime before it all happened. "A-Day" lol. 

 

Sure looks pretty.

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Jason
18 minutes ago, MostWantedMVP said:

It is a live service game which is a shame. Why on earth didn't they make it like Spider-Man PS4.

I mean a single player game with post launch DLC is technically a live service game. People are too quick to get the pitchforks out when ever they hear the terms live service or game as a service or whatever. I mean, it could end up being horrible but free content and no lootboxes/p2w implies they'll be selling costumes and maybe heroes I guess?

 

Personally I'm perfectly onboard with the idea of buying a good single player / co-op game that gets new content to bring me back into it for years to come. We'll have to see how it plays out here but it being a live service game is the least of my concerns at the moment tbh.

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K^2

Updated the opening post with the trailer shown for anyone who missed it.

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Dbzk1999
42 minutes ago, Tchuck said:

Looks nice. But I don't care for it. The moment I heard the voices and saw the faces.... Man I'd care much more for it if they looked more like the actors in the movies. Of course, it would cost way more to do so, but would be better imo.

 

But then they have "an original story" to justify it and I just... Don't care for it. After Endgame, it's hard to think about the Avengers, specially since this game would be set sometime before it all happened. "A-Day" lol. 

 

Sure looks pretty.

Sometime before it all happened? Uh, what’re you talking about in regards to that?

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JC_HUMBLE
52 minutes ago, Tchuck said:

Looks nice. But I don't care for it. The moment I heard the voices and saw the faces.... Man I'd care much more for it if they looked more like the actors in the movies. Of course, it would cost way more to do so, but would be better imo.

 

But then they have "an original story" to justify it and I just... Don't care for it. After Endgame, it's hard to think about the Avengers, specially since this game would be set sometime before it all happened. "A-Day" lol. 

 

Sure looks pretty.

Seriously, you were expecting this game be part of the MCU

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Tchuck
53 minutes ago, Dbzk1999 said:

Sometime before it all happened? Uh, what’re you talking about in regards to that?

Well this game begun development before Infinity War and Endgame came out. So now all of that has happened, and this probably won't take those things into account. Since it's not a tie-in to a movie or something of the sort, it feels meh.

 

43 minutes ago, JC_HUMBLE said:

Seriously, you were expecting this game be part of the MCU

I wasn't expecting anything. But I just felt that having it look like the MCU would make it much, much better. Right now it looks like a knock-off of the Avengers. It feels like this:

 

https://imgur.com/B2rowaB

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Oldsport

ahh. this is basically a spiritual successor to marvel ultimate alliance

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Edward Nashton
4 hours ago, Tchuck said:

 

5 hours ago, JC_HUMBLE said:

Seriously, you were expecting this game be part of the MCU

I wasn't expecting anything. But I just felt that having it look like the MCU would make it much, much better. Right now it looks like a knock-off of the Avengers. It feels like this:

That's strange, my issue with the character models is that I feel like they look too much like the MCU actors, but they're just different enough to f*ck with my brain, especially Bruce Banner. In fact the overall aesthetics ape the MCU look.

 

I kinda found this reveal cinematic to be underwhelming, some people are going to scoff at this, but I'm still more excited about Ultimate Alliance 3 than this - I actually know how it's going to play, I like the colorful cel shaded look (it also borrows from the MCU but mostly sticks to the comics), and seems to have a lighter tone - this one seems like it's trying to be grimdark, and I don't think it will top Infinity War or Endgame when it comes to that, so you have a game that imo wants to look like the MCU, and tell a story that wants to carry the same tone as the last two big MCU movies... That's a tall order. I feel like they've already pinned themselves in a corner, but hopefully my feelings will change once there's more info out about the game.

 

BTW, How'd you feel about the Arkham games and Spider-Man? Neither of the character models looked like any of the actors who played Batman and Spider-Man - I mean, Arkham did have Kevin Conroy voice Batman, so that kinda helped the character feel familiar.

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Tchuck
1 hour ago, Edward Nashton said:

That's strange, my issue with the character models is that I feel like they look too much like the MCU actors, but they're just different enough to f*ck with my brain, especially Bruce Banner. In fact the overall aesthetics ape the MCU look.

The thing is that they look similar enough yet not close enough to be the real deal. So it just feels like cheap knockoffs of the characters. 

 

1 hour ago, Edward Nashton said:

BTW, How'd you feel about the Arkham games and Spider-Man? Neither of the character models looked like any of the actors who played Batman and Spider-Man - I mean, Arkham did have Kevin Conroy voice Batman, so that kinda helped the character feel familiar.

Loved them. Didn't care about Batman being something else, because we've had what, 5 different Batmans so far since Michael Keaton? And they each played the role different enough. Ditto with Spidey, though we've only had what 3 so far? They were all different enough. 

 

But with the Avengers cast? We've had the same guys playing them for the past 10 years. Several movies with the same Iron Man,  the same Captain America, the same Thor etc. They burned the idea of what these characters should look like in Live Action. I can't imagine an Iron Man that isn't Robert Downey Jr. I can't imagine a Captain America that isn't Chris Evans. I can't imagine a Black Widow that isn't Scarlett Johansson. I can see Hulk/Bruce Banner as other actors, and he's the one I have the least issue with, since we've had several different attempts at it despite Mark Ruffalo being imo the best one. 

 

If the game hadn't gone with a realistic style, I'd have not cared at all about the difference. But since they went realistic, and close enough but then not too close to the real actors... It just feels like a budget Avengers.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Tchuck said:

The thing is that they look similar enough yet not close enough to be the real deal. So it just feels like cheap knockoffs of the characters. 

Sounds like we ultimately have the same issue, only you would have liked if they'd gone all the way and have them to be directly modeled off of the MCU actors, and I would have preferred they'd have gone with a look that's further away from the MCU style.

 

Maybe the fact that the game is going for a realistic look makes me automatically associate it with the MCU, but I feel the game's overall "look" is trying to mimic it. And having the characters look like the MCU actors in a game that isn't set in the MCU would be pretty confusing, I'm sure there are a few people who already think this is supposed to be set in the MCU - a casual viewer could easily think it's set in between some of the films.

 

I guess I'll use Arkham Asylum as an example of what they could have done with this game: even though Batman has been played by several actors and there's more flexibility on how you can portray him - the game did come out during the height of popularity of the Nolan films, but you didn't even have to look at Batman or the Joker to know it had nothing to do with the movies, it had a style that immediately distinguished itself from the movies and other Batman properties, and still had impressive graphics for it's time. I get a sense of lack of confidence with this Avengers game because it's leaning too heavily on the MCU, where as Arkham and Spider-Man went out of their way to remind people they had nothing to do with the films - hell, with Spider-Man, they gave his costume big ol' white spider logo and prominently showed it off in their promotional material to make damn sure no one would think he was supposed to be the Tom Holland Spider-Man.

 

edit: I guess I've already expressed my feelings enough on how this game looks, but look at this guy, they totally wanted him to be Mark Ruffalo LOL! I knew there was a reason he bothered me the most.

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Edited by Edward Nashton

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Tchuck

That is very true. The style and look of Arkham's Batman was extremely different from all the Batmans we had had until that time. It really helped it get distinguished and stand on its own. And it came out right after The Dark Knight, which was the best Batman movie imo. I agree, if they had done something similar to with with this game, it would have been much better.

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Jason
14 hours ago, Tchuck said:

Well this game begun development before Infinity War and Endgame came out. So now all of that has happened, and this probably won't take those things into account. Since it's not a tie-in to a movie or something of the sort, it feels meh.

Disagree 100% on this. Having it related to or connected to the MCU in anyway shape or form woulda been hype killing. Like Insomniac's Spider-Man these games need to be free to do whatever their creators want, any sort of connection to films/TV is a big no-no. It's that type of thinking that has plagued Marvel games for years and now we're finally free of it and that's a great thing.

 

For me the main problem visually is the costume design. Cap's is the worst offender but the Iron Man suit also looks a bit odd. Thor's looks good to me, it's very Asgardian. Also I don't think the games art/visual style is bad but it did look a little bland from what we saw, but we didn't see very much.

 

And uh, I really have no problems with them going with a realistic art style and the characters looking or not looking like the MCU actors, but saying that I'm someone who's read the comics for yonks so the idea of these characters looking different and having different personalities depending on who is writing/drawing them is perfectly normal with me.

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MostWantedMVP
Posted (edited)

All I'm hearing from the reps is that the game is "Narrative driven" the guy on the livestream just cleared it up that it is a live service. So basically it's Destiny: Marvel edition. Watch it will be free to play in 2 years.

Edited by MostWantedMVP

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Billy Russo

Am I the only one that was kind of like "Ehh." when I saw this reveal? It kind of fell flat for me.

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Edward Nashton
5 minutes ago, Billy Russo said:

Am I the only one that was kind of like "Ehh." when I saw this reveal? It kind of fell flat for me.

No, a few of us have issues with the reveal. We all have different reasons, though.

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