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Journey_95

It would have been interesting to see the gang at their peak

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Journey_95

I think this is a missed opportunity. We just see the fall of the gang so many ask themselves why people even followed Dutch for so long. But it's clear that before the game begins there were plenty of years where they were (mostly) happy and Dutch was a good leader. Things started to go wrong once the Blackwater Robbery went wrong

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LorshZontek

True but i doubt it would make a as interesting game as the first and second game 

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Journey_95
1 minute ago, LorshZontek said:

True but i doubt it would make a as interesting game as the first and second game 

I'm not saying it should be a full game, just a few missions would have been good to show the contrast

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LorshZontek
1 minute ago, Journey_95 said:

I'm not saying it should be a full game, just a few missions would have been good to show the contrast

Oh a small dlc would do a good job at that 

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Journey_95
4 minutes ago, LorshZontek said:

Oh a small dlc would do a good job at that 

Sadly we aren't getting any, Rockstar is focused on Red Dead Online now

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Oldsport

yes it should have started right before blackwater so we could see all the good dutch has done and see it fall

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DirtyDeeds765
7 hours ago, Journey_95 said:

I think this is a missed opportunity. We just see the fall of the gang so many ask themselves why people even followed Dutch for so long. But it's clear that before the game begins there were plenty of years where they were (mostly) happy and Dutch was a good leader. Things started to go wrong once the Blackwater Robbery went wrong

Yes, this concept is a million times better than RDR2's story.

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Journey_95
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, DirtyDeeds765 said:

Yes, this concept is a million times better than RDR2's story.

I actually like RDR2's story a lot but it would have been more impactful if we saw the gang at their best first. Only seeing that would be boring too though

Edited by Journey_95

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Equatecurl

They’re probably going to do that with RDR3 and Mac Callander. 

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UnexpectedParole

Frankly I don't think 'right before Blackwater' would be the best time. 

 

In my opinion the story would be best told from a point much previous to, then leading up to, but then excluding Blackwater. 

I feel like the Ferry Job is too awesome a "Noodle Incident" to actually play it out in a scenario.

Besides, who mechanically would you play as, and how do you "fail" the mission if it were all one big failure anyway?

It would be seriously messed up to stop the mission for John's death, or Sean's death, but not bother for Jenny's? Better yet, you can't kill Heidi until Dutch does? That would be some pretty serious plot armor.

 

Instead 

I think it would be fun to play as Arthur after John came back from his year long hiatus. The gang would have been at peak form then ? Mac, Davey, John, Dutch, Javier, Bill, Arthur, Hosea.

Strauss, Grimshaw, and Pearson were probably there, Abigail most certainly was with Jack. I don't know when some of the others were added.

 

I think it would be cool to see how those "Robin Hood" bank robberies played out, or more likely how few but well timed they were. I want to see how the "newcomers" were added like Sean, Karen, Tilly, Molly, Mary-Beth, Charles, Lenny and even Micah.

 

How things were before they got the bright idea to move next to Blackwater then pull a job literally in their own backyard. Clearly not Dutch's best idea ever.

 

 

 

 

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crazedZ10

It would be annoying because they made gang into a bunch of bumbling idiots that can't plan anything without a f*ck up  that results in a over the top shootout with 50 cops

 

 

 

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O.Z
8 hours ago, crazedZ10 said:

It would be annoying because they made gang into a bunch of bumbling idiots that can't plan anything without a f*ck up  that results in a over the top shootout with 50 cops

 

 

 

Like I have said it before, Dutch Van Der Linde gang is more useless than the Wet/Sticky bandits from Home Alone.

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Dan_1983
On 5/28/2019 at 1:08 PM, Equatecurl said:

They’re probably going to do that with RDR3 and Mac Callander. 

I hope not. The VDL gang storyline is done.

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simmun
On 5/28/2019 at 2:08 PM, Equatecurl said:

They’re probably going to do that with RDR3 and Mac Callander

I second that! The story is no at all exhausted - there is still the huge story line of how they ended up in Blackwater, how the gang formed, what was their peak like, as well as exploring the region north of New Austin/West of Ambarino. RDR3 set before RDR2 feels very natural. 

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I think the way things are going, there's a chance your Online character might meet up with gang members in RDO, and possibly even take part in the Blackwater Massacre.

 

We might even be able to interact with the Callander brothers and Jenny- especially since Mac already has a model and we have a detailed hint at what Jenny looks like.

 

 

With that, Online would more or less cover the questions about the pre-Blackwater gang, so I personally would love DLC focused around exploring what Javier and Bill did in the time between the Epilogue and RDR1, with a Mexico map expansion. I could also see them doing an Undead Nightmare 2 (more likely in the unlikely event they even consider it).

 

Also think RDR3 will likely take another step further back in time, maybe the late 1860s-1870s? It would provide an opportunity to introduce a line of new characters while not being stuck having to directly lead into RDRII and I.

 

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