People are getting banned for dupe glitches

[Nick1020]

I’ve concluded this is fake. Places like Reddit would be crying about getting their money wiped. And also it came from 4chan. Pretty sure someone did it as a laugh. 

[Rev. Gnash]

2 hours ago, Hetraet said:

Stop licking R*'s ass lol. 

Brilliant.

https://ibb.co/5MDYQ6m

 

 

[DarksunDaFirst]

If you can't pay the time don't do the crime.

No sympathy or empathy from me.  

If you doing that in single player - whatever.  Games have enough problems on their own than to have to deal with people who break the spirit of them - especially online games.

Though if they don't ban people that have a DIRECT impact on other people's games - I would be more pissed off about it.  You raid a few extra bucks to get that red leather saddle for your horse?  Meh.  

Do it to dupe ingredients for explosive arrows?  That's going to give people an unfairly bad time who face you.

Edited May 20, 2019 by DarksunDaFirst

[Chunkey_Monkey]

2 hours ago, Smokewood said:

Why would you want to? Seems childish.....

didnt say i was doing it read the post ... i told my mate how to do t then left him filling his boots 

 

Ive earned more than enough money so far legitimately thru hinting and stranger missions my preferred way 

Edited May 20, 2019 by Mad-Monkey_1st

[CosmicBuffalo]

Interesting, these dupe glitches create more interest in the game...all you have to do is youtube "red dead online money glitch" hundreds of videos will pop up.  They actually need this to make the game as successful as GTAO.  So some players actually have all the cool stuff in game to encourage others to buy gold bars.  GTAO would have never taken off if they banned people for duping a few millions early on.  There is plenty of money sinks to come, most gamers cannot even do these boring glitches for more than a couple hours.  

[Stupidis]

Stupid to get banned over this. R* should focus on gta modders instead that are a real plague. Not players that are taking advantage of shoddy programing. This just shows the obvious, R* are most and foremost only interested in protecting the money flow. Not fixing bugs or creating an online world filled with stuff that all players can enjoy. Both PvE and PvP.

[Potter145]

30 minutes ago, GenericGTAO said:

Interesting, these dupe glitches create more interest in the game...all you have to do is youtube "red dead online money glitch" hundreds of videos will pop up.  They actually need this to make the game as successful as GTAO.  So some players actually have all the cool stuff in game to encourage others to buy gold bars.  GTAO would have never taken off if they banned people for duping a few millions early on.  There is plenty of money sinks to come, most gamers cannot even do these boring glitches for more than a couple hours.  

 

You are spot on!

 

I don't want to imply I know more than anyone else, but even people who are not familiar with conspiracy theories should recognize that this was a coordinated and strategic marketing plan to gain traction.

 

Let's be real guys: No one was punished, no one will be punished, the glitch is too simple, too easy, isn't fixed yet, and no videos have been taken down.

 

Modern marketing tactics for online games in 2019.

Edited May 20, 2019 by TheExecutor10

[xInfamousRYANx]

R* would really shoot themselves in the foot if they banned people for the exploit. The game already is floundering. Not to mention the ease of performing it led to virtually entire lobbies exploiting in harmony. I cant tell you how many people I saw around Owanjia and the Dakota River tossing fish on their horse yesterday.

[IamCourtney]

Don't care if people glitch and dupe. Don't care if they get away with it. Don't care if they get wiped/banned for it either. It would ruin the fun of the game for me to partake, so I won't. Everything else is beyond my control.

[ZakeBudek]

 

[The Blast]

6 hours ago, Jason said:

It should not be difficult at all for them to figure out who has duped and who has not. They can track all that type of stuff, just find who has sold impossible high amounts of fish/pelts in one go and Bob's yer uncle. False flags in this situation would be very weird.

Whether or not this is real or fake....

False flags have been a false thing 99.99999999999% of the time anyway. I refuse to believe and always refused to believe all of the sociopaths in GTAO crying about their accounts being banned when they were obviously guilty. Liars. Sociopaths turning fighting against injustice into the crime and then making themselves out to be victims when they are the worst people of all ----- nothing is worst than a cheater who lies and pretends that he is not a cheater, and then looks for support in other cheaters and deluded imbeciles to help build a pointless movement against a company for doing the right thing in the first place.

Cheaters of any kind have no place in online gaming. I've said it countless times --- if you cheat in any way possible --- you should have your ability to play games online revoked PERMANENTLY.

There are no innocent cheaters, glitchers, and dupers, and if Rockstar gets one thing right, it will be banning as many people possible that cheat or glitch or exploit in any way as quickly as possible.

The cheaters and glitchers and dupers are the reason why Rockstar resents its player base so much to begin with. These are the people - NOT ROCKSTAR - who ruin and always have ruined gaming for everyone.

If you come on here to whine and cry and try to look for people to band with together in opposition to Rockstar BEING JUST for banning spineless cowards who have no skill and no honor in video gaming, then I'll have to be the one that gets voted off this island by cheating scum and unapologetic losers who think that defending people banned for cheating is a good thing.

I was unjustly banned by moderators and trolls who despised me for hammering all of them for not having the spines to stand up against the worthless losers who cheat, and I'll do it again and again until the end of time until people stop LYING. Do not defend cheaters. Do not defend liars.

You cheat in any way, you mod in any way, you do anything against the ToS, you support cheating, you encourage it, you share methods on how to --- it's all the same to me --- you deserve to be banned permanently.

If you're an unethical, amoral gamer who bends the rules and thinks that certain forms of cheating are harmless ----- stop gaming. Remove yourself from the gaming universe - because the best among us ------ literally -------  despise you. That means YOU who support or forgive cheaters!

Stop it. Save gaming from the abyss and stop letting people who are wrong make you think that they are right.

Edited May 20, 2019 by The Blast

[Jason]

3 minutes ago, TheExecutor10 said:

You are spot on!

 

I don't want to imply I know more than anyone else, but even people who are not familiar with conspiracy theories should recognize that this was a coordinated and strategic marketing plan to gain traction.

 

Let's be real guys: No one was punished, no one will be punished, the glitch is too simple, too easy, isn't fixed yet, and no videos have been taken down.

 

Modern marketing tactics for online games in 2019.

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The glitch got fixed hours ago last I heard, people who haven't logged out yet are still able to do it but I saw a number of reports that it was fixed this afternoon. Rockstar are also not going to take videos down because they have no right to do so, to even try would be walking down a very slippery slope. How simple/easy it is do no means nothing, there's been easier dupes in other games it's absolutely no reason for it to be intentional.

 

Why are people not getting banned, if that image is indeed fake? Who knows, it could be a case of Rockstar accepting it's on them, but no developer in 2019 would ever encourage exploiting or be happy with it, to even suggest it is wild.

[Potter145]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

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The glitch got fixed hours ago last I heard, people who haven't logged out yet are still able to do it but I saw a number of reports that it was fixed this afternoon. Rockstar are also not going to take videos down because they have no right to do so, to even try would be walking down a very slippery slope. How simple/easy it is do no means nothing, there's been easier dupes in other games it's absolutely no reason for it to be intentional.

 

Why are people not getting banned, if that image is indeed fake? Who knows, it could be a case of Rockstar accepting it's on them, but no developer in 2019 would ever encourage exploiting or be happy with it, to even suggest it is wild.

They wouldn't let the glitch continue for days on end, that's obvious. It still got people to play and invest some time in RDO coordinated with the new update.

The glitch lasted for more than 3 days. No one can sell me R* can't set a limitation on pike in your horses inventory within hours.

 

They would never publically state they are happy with and/or are encouraging glitching, but it can still be used as a tool for PR means.

 

• We also ask for your help in keeping Red Dead Online a fun and fair environment for everyone. Please use the in-game reporting tools to report any abusive behavior, cheating or exploits you see occurring during the Beta, or that you happen to see posted on external sites like YouTube. A friendly reminder that our longstanding copyright policy rules about posting material from Rockstar games applies now as ever – any videos encouraging cheating in any way are subject to takedown.

Edited May 20, 2019 by TheExecutor10

[Jason]

3 minutes ago, TheExecutor10 said:

They wouldn't let the glitch continue for days on end, that's obvious. It still got people to play and invest some time in RDO coordinated with the new update.

The glitch lasted for more than 3 days. No one can sell me R* can't set a limitation on pike in your horses inventory within hours.

 

They would never publically state they are happy with and/or are encouraging glitching, but it can still be used as a tool for PR means.

 

• We also ask for your help in keeping Red Dead Online a fun and fair environment for everyone. Please use the in-game reporting tools to report any abusive behavior, cheating or exploits you see occurring during the Beta, or that you happen to see posted on external sites like YouTube. A friendly reminder that our longstanding copyright policy rules about posting material from Rockstar games applies now as ever – any videos encouraging cheating in any way are subject to takedown.

The dupe glitch became known over the weekend, it was fixed on the first working day. Nothing unusual about that, seen the same thing happen with many other online games when a dupe glitch breaks out.

 

The only glitches they may use for PR would be fun glitches, say something like the old swing glitch in IV. Dupes though? I have never seen a developer even hint towards being okay with it for any reason and it's the exact same situation here. They are potentially very, very dangerous to your games economy.

 

As for copyright policy about videos that promote cheating I mean, they never did with GTAO so eh I dunno there in fairness. My best guess for that would be that Rockstar's online presence is pretty bad, there's a whole lotta stuff they don't seem to bother with.

[CosmicBuffalo]

I am not saying they intentionally put out or allow glitches...but they are part of gta onlines success...how much is really the question?  Its hard to say, but...there is no doubt that the dupe glitches generated alot of interest in the game, thats why I believe dupers were never punished.  Whatever, I have no proof just my feeling.

 

I remember when the division was punishing glitchers, the game tanked shortly after.   I was much more into social gaming at the time, today I just like to solo play.  So I dont keep up with other games. I can tell you seeing players with decked out clothes, guns in the menus makes me want to get the stuff.  Never understood the hate on glitchers here on the forums...I alway viewed it that it actually benefits R* in the end cause it keeps players interested and that means its popular and if its popular then people spend money.  Same reason every christmas people are fighting over 10 dollar dolls.  Just tapping into that makes sense.  Popularity is very nebulous in general, but banning people, because a few thousand grinders can now afford camp upgrades, cool horses, saddles, gun skins, basically kills any popularity.

[Jason]

7 minutes ago, GenericGTAO said:

I am not saying they intentionally put out or allow glitches...but they are part of gta onlines success...how much is really the question?  Its hard to say, but...there is no doubt that the dupe glitches generated alot of interest in the game, thats why I believe dupers were never punished.  Whatever, I have no proof just my feeling.

If we're talking financial success then dupe glitches had pretty much no bearing on that for obvious reasons, and we all know how much money GTAO has made. I suppose there's an argument for people who duped and bought the fancy toys made people jealous so they bought shark cards but eh, even if that's a thing I don't see it being a decent sized group of people. The main reason people buy shark cards is because things cost a lot of money and the content paid too little, it's what sells pay to skip microtransactions in every other game with them and GTAO is no exception to that.

 

If we're talking success as in how many players play it yea that one is a bit tricky. But, GTA IV was one of the Xbox 360's (and probably PS3's) most played games right up until GTA V came out and GTA V was a far bigger launch than IV and GTAO a far more indepth experience than IV's multiplayer.

 

So personally I'm going with the idea that dupe glitches didn't do much for it's success in any capacity tbh. GTAO was going to be a huge success either way.

Edited May 20, 2019 by Jason

[CMCSAVAGE]

38 minutes ago, The Blast said:

Spoiler

Whether or not this is real or fake....

False flags have been a false thing 99.99999999999% of the time anyway. I refuse to believe and always refused to believe all of the sociopaths in GTAO crying about their accounts being banned when they were obviously guilty. Liars. Sociopaths turning fighting against injustice into the crime and then making themselves out to be victims when they are the worst people of all ----- nothing is worst than a cheater who lies and pretends that he is not a cheater, and then looks for support in other cheaters and deluded imbeciles to help build a pointless movement against a company for doing the right thing in the first place.

Cheaters of any kind have no place in online gaming. I've said it countless times --- if you cheat in any way possible --- you should have your ability to play games online revoked PERMANENTLY.

There are no innocent cheaters, glitchers, and dupers, and if Rockstar gets one thing right, it will be banning as many people possible that cheat or glitch or exploit in any way as quickly as possible.

The cheaters and glitchers and dupers are the reason why Rockstar resents its player base so much to begin with. These are the people - NOT ROCKSTAR - who ruin and always have ruined gaming for everyone.

If you come on here to whine and cry and try to look for people to band with together in opposition to Rockstar BEING JUST for banning spineless cowards who have no skill and no honor in video gaming, then I'll have to be the one that gets voted off this island by cheating scum and unapologetic losers who think that defending people banned for cheating is a good thing.

I was unjustly banned by moderators and trolls who despised me for hammering all of them for not having the spines to stand up against the worthless losers who cheat, and I'll do it again and again until the end of time until people stop LYING. Do not defend cheaters. Do not defend liars.

You cheat in any way, you mod in any way, you do anything against the ToS, you support cheating, you encourage it, you share methods on how to --- it's all the same to me --- you deserve to be banned permanently.

If you're an unethical, amoral gamer who bends the rules and thinks that certain forms of cheating are harmless ----- stop gaming. Remove yourself from the gaming universe - because the best among us ------ literally -------  despise you. That means YOU who support or forgive cheaters!

Stop it. Save gaming from the abyss and stop letting people who are wrong make you think that they are right.

 

Edited May 20, 2019 by CMCSAVAGE

[lewiz6235]

2 hours ago, -LN- said:

Well, it seems this thread ended up like how most other topics about glitches end up in the GTAO section. Personally, I don't feel as though where or how other players obtain their money is any of my business. I mean, I understand the concerns about how overdoing it could potentially damage the structure of the game and so forth, but if people see an avenue to make quick and easy money, many will likely take it without much thought, regardless of the risks involved. It is, however, just that - a risk, so it shouldn't come as a shock if measures are introduced to stop or punish it.

 

I do think an outright ban seems a bit harsh though, but that's just my opinion and especially if its their first time. However, that's not my call or anyone else's to make, but like others have stated, R*'s anticheat system doesn't exactly have the best track record, so I'm a bit sceptical as to whether or not it will work so well here. Only time will tell.

 

I'll also say that while I've personally chosen not to take advantage of this or anything else within the game that involves glitched money; in my opinion, the economy as it stands  is far from being perfect here - especially considering the prices of say the recipe pamphlets, ability cards, and even certain pieces of clothing and what most things pay out in return. I mean, it was a bit too much on their end when they nerfed the prices of what the butcher offers for certain animals/parts and the like, but I've tried hard to just move past my feelings in regards to this and other things of that nature and just try to enjoy the game for what it is now that it has made improvements elsewhere and is finally out of beta.

 

I guess I'm a bit more live and let live; there will always be someone to ruin something for someone else and there are always going to be flaws within the game's design and future additions that make it all seem a bit unfair, but I'm not going to damn anyone for taking such a risk - like I said, it's really none of my business and there's nothing that I myself can do to stop it; even if I wanted to.

 

When it comes to exploiting god modes and the like and using it to grief or gain an extreme upper hand against other players in all regards; I feel very differently and think that partaking in such warrants a long and potentially permanent ban. Either way, I feel that some people are going to find ways to grief no matter what happens; thankfully it's not happened to me since the update, but who knows what the future holds. I suppose I'm more concerned with that as opposed to people cloning fish or whatever for some quick cash.

A most fair and neutral response that is much needed here, seeing as we have both sides, those who favour the glitches to 'stick it' to greedy Cockstar for their greed and those who prefer being clean in order to preserve some form of dignity in the game. Neither are wholly right or wrong, although I suspect biases are bound to pop up one way or another.

 

Perhaps a fair middle-ground, one where glitchers are given a small, but strict, punishment as a 'warning' for what they have done if, and most importantly IF, they can prove that their activities were in any way linked to the glitches, (Edit: Important to note that this would serve as a first and primary punishment, more to serve as that warning for those thinking of continuing, as one side would have you ban them for life on the spot whilst others would say it's outright wrong to ban one for being in the right place at the right time, having that middle-ground approach is key here) which is something they have done in GTA Online with questionable success. Be it a month's ban only, or perhaps just the cash they took away, might be certain items and/or horses if they bought that glitched money with said ill-gained wealth, but a method that satisfies those who stick to doing things the more traditional way.

 

Bearing in mind that we are seeing a conflict of interests here, as there are those who heavily shun the Microtransactions that are in this game that are more than happy to combat the issue by taking advantage of glitches as they come along, and who is right to tell them what they are doing is wrong? Similarly, those who don't mind (we won't say anybody actually loves the god-damn MTX, come on!) them prefer to keep their dignity by resisting the temptations to resorting to such crude means of gaining money. Again, it is a case where those who choose not to glitch are not 'stupid' or 'zealous', just as these glitchers are not necessarily the 'scum' of the community.

I speak mainly for both groups here, seeing as this divide is a most fascinating one to watch unfold, but I suppose it comes down to one's principles and where they stand on the matter at hand.

 

Alas R* and their beloved Red Dead Online, barely out of Beta at that!

Edited May 20, 2019 by lewiz6235
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[Sunny_D]

Imagine if everyone who did do this glitch gets banned. That'd be a big fat RIP to 50-70% of us who played over the weekend. 

[Amy Vinewood]

11 minutes ago, Vitalize said:

Imagine if everyone who did do this glitch gets banned. That'd be a big fat RIP to 50-70% of us who played over the weekend. 

Exactly. They would have to ban a lot of people - every session I was in had 20+ people down by the banks of the river near Valentine, all switching fish constantly.

 

[AmyStone]

1 hour ago, xInfamousRYANx said:

R* would really shoot themselves in the foot if they banned people for the exploit. The game already is floundering. Not to mention the ease of performing it led to virtually entire lobbies exploiting in harmony. I cant tell you how many people I saw around Owanjia and the Dakota River tossing fish on their horse yesterday.

I don't think people doing the glitch and really interested in playing the game or buying gold so I don't see why rockstar would want them around. If they were the reason the game was a mess at the weekend then they are just making it worse for other people. I hope they do suspend them all and take all of their money. It wouldbe so easy for them to know if someone had been doing the glitch. If someone has sold more than 10 large fish in an hour then they were obviously duping them.

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, Amy Vinewood said:

Exactly. They would have to ban a lot of people - every session I was in had 20+ people down by the banks of the river near Valentine, all switching fish constantly.

Due to the lobby merging stuff that might not be as accurate as you think, the game will put automatically merge you into lobbies with players in your area. I've not been up there my self but every lobby I was in had players where ever I went, so it's not as if there weren't a lot of people doing other stuff.

[Mas u Sees]

1 hour ago, TheExecutor10 said:

They wouldn't let the glitch continue for days on end, that's obvious. It still got people to play and invest some time in RDO coordinated with the new update.

The glitch lasted for more than 3 days. No one can sell me R* can't set a limitation on pike in your horses inventory within hours.

 

They would never publically state they are happy with and/or are encouraging glitching, but it can still be used as a tool for PR means.

 

• We also ask for your help in keeping Red Dead Online a fun and fair environment for everyone. Please use the in-game reporting tools to report any abusive behavior, cheating or exploits you see occurring during the Beta, or that you happen to see posted on external sites like YouTube. A friendly reminder that our longstanding copyright policy rules about posting material from Rockstar games applies now as ever – any videos encouraging cheating in any way are subject to takedown.

People don't work at weekends pal.

It wasn't a marketing tactic, lol, just R* being a little slow due to the Weekend.

[Amy Vinewood]

15 minutes ago, Jason said:

Due to the lobby merging stuff that might not be as accurate as you think, the game will put automatically merge you into lobbies with players in your area. I've not been up there my self but every lobby I was in had players where ever I went, so it's not as if there weren't a lot of people doing other stuff.

Well, regardless of lobby merging I can say for certain that I saw far more players duping fish then doing anything else. Lobby chat wherever I went was talking about "the fish dupe". All the way up and down the Dakota river, to Lake Owanjila was just full of people standing by their horse switching an animal of some sort.

Sure, I saw other people in shops, doing stranger missions, hunting for a bird, ect.. If I had to guess it was at least 50/50 in most sessions - adding in legit players I never saw. Quite a few people was doing this.

 

 

Edited May 20, 2019 by Amy Vinewood

[CMCSAVAGE]

23 minutes ago, Amy Vinewood said:

Exactly. They would have to ban a lot of people - every session I was in had 20+ people down by the banks of the river near Valentine, all switching fish constantly.

I was lucky to see one, two at the most. 

[Sunny_D]

I can attest for Amy. In my experience of my own sessions and being in sessions with her, there were indeed a f*ck ton of people lined up and down dakota river. 

[Amy Vinewood]

5 minutes ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

I was lucky to see one, two at the most. 

Just riding from the butchers in Valentine up the Dakota river up to Window Rock I counted 21 people in one session.

[CMCSAVAGE]

2 minutes ago, Amy Vinewood said:

Just riding from the butchers in Valentine up the Dakota river up to Window Rock I counted 21 people in one session.

Ah ok, I didn't travel that far.

[deadx23]

1 hour ago, AmyStone said:

I don't think people doing the glitch and really interested in playing the game or buying gold so I don't see why rockstar would want them around. If they were the reason the game was a mess at the weekend then they are just making it worse for other people. I hope they do suspend them all and take all of their money. It wouldbe so easy for them to know if someone had been doing the glitch. If someone has sold more than 10 large fish in an hour then they were obviously duping them.

Ha ha ha that's funny, we don't really want to play guyz I just don't know why would we want the glitch money to begin with.         -_- 

But I'm sure r* wouldn't mind a higher number of players per week/month (well I wouldn't know their plans)

Just be assured we most likely wouldn't get banned for something as this glitch. the worst I see as an example of gtao is they will wipe the amount made from said glitch not mission cash or progress, again like in gtao wipe's. (Just my guess)

 

By the way I bought some gold  

Edited May 20, 2019 by deadx23

[Amy Vinewood]

From the thread on 4chan: