Jump to content
    1. Welcome to GTAForums!

    1. GTANet.com

    1. GTA Online

      1. Updates
      2. Find Lobbies & Players
      3. Guides & Strategies
      4. Vehicles
      5. Content Creator
      6. Help & Support
    2. Red Dead Online

      1. Blood Money
      2. Frontier Pursuits
      3. Find Lobbies & Outlaws
      4. Help & Support
    3. Crews

    1. Grand Theft Auto Series

      1. Bugs*
      2. St. Andrews Cathedral
    2. GTA VI

    3. GTA V

      1. Guides & Strategies
      2. Help & Support
    4. GTA IV

      1. The Lost and Damned
      2. The Ballad of Gay Tony
      3. Guides & Strategies
      4. Help & Support
    5. GTA San Andreas

      1. Classic GTA SA
      2. Guides & Strategies
      3. Help & Support
    6. GTA Vice City

      1. Classic GTA VC
      2. Guides & Strategies
      3. Help & Support
    7. GTA III

      1. Classic GTA III
      2. Guides & Strategies
      3. Help & Support
    8. Portable Games

      1. GTA Chinatown Wars
      2. GTA Vice City Stories
      3. GTA Liberty City Stories
    9. Top-Down Games

      1. GTA Advance
      2. GTA 2
      3. GTA
    1. Red Dead Redemption 2

      1. PC
      2. Help & Support
    2. Red Dead Redemption

    1. GTA Mods

      1. GTA V
      2. GTA IV
      3. GTA III, VC & SA
      4. Tutorials
    2. Red Dead Mods

      1. Documentation
    3. Mod Showroom

      1. Scripts & Plugins
      2. Maps
      3. Total Conversions
      4. Vehicles
      5. Textures
      6. Characters
      7. Tools
      8. Other
      9. Workshop
    4. Featured Mods

      1. Design Your Own Mission
      2. OpenIV
      3. GTA: Underground
      4. GTA: Liberty City
      5. GTA: State of Liberty
    1. Rockstar Games

    2. Rockstar Collectors

    1. Off-Topic

      1. General Chat
      2. Gaming
      3. Technology
      4. Movies & TV
      5. Music
      6. Sports
      7. Vehicles
    2. Expression

      1. Graphics / Visual Arts
      2. GFX Requests & Tutorials
      3. Writers' Discussion
      4. Debates & Discussion
    1. Announcements

    2. Support

    3. Suggestions

*DO NOT* SHARE MEDIA OR LINKS TO LEAKED COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL. Discussion is allowed.

Water vs Air Cooling


TheGodDamnMaster
 Share

Recommended Posts

TheGodDamnMaster

I recently ordered parts for my next build and decided to go with the i9-9900k (Yeah, I know, terrible choice) which can reach up to 5GHz OC. I've traditionally gone with air cooling for my builds, sticking with the entry-level CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU fan. However, since it's a strong possibility that I'll eventually end up pushing my processor to that 5GHz level, I thought about going with water-cooling this go around just to be safe, and went ahead and ordered the Corsair H150i PRO . 

 

But then I went over to Linus Tech Tips on Youtube and saw he had this video posted recently. In it, he makes the case that Air Cooling is sufficient. He compared a few water coolers to a few different air coolers and provided the following results:

 

8kPyjpQ.png

 

Now keep in mind, these are the results from running the CPU all the way to 5GHz. According to the graph, the most efficient cooler is the Noctua NH-U12A, a traditional mid-range air cooler. 

 

How much stock should I put into this? I'm tempted to cancel my order for the H150i PRO and just go with the Noctua, but wanted some opinions on whether you guys feel traditional air cooling is sufficient for high-end overclocking. I don't really care about aesthetics, I care about value.

Edited by TheSpectre

gFNsyFepSNK2dgwT5xpc_nintendo-games-gif_

Intel Core i9-9900k | Seasonic FOCUS Plus 750W | 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666MHz
MSI GeForce RTX2070 | WD Blue 1TB HDD | Samsung 950 PRO M.2 512GB
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower | MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon AC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In many cases AiO water coolers aren't that much more efficient than top of the range air coolers. However, they don't put as much stress on the motherboard and are arguably more practical, ie. easier to set up, they don't collide with large heatsinks on RAM and VRM, etc.

74cXSsx.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

sivispacem

Peak temps under artificial load also don't really tell the full story, as they tend to be caused by aggressive spikes in CPU utilisation that aren't reflective or prolonged use.

 

The main reason the Noctua edges out the sound levels is because their fans are so quiet, but there's nothing stopping  one putting their fans on another cooler. 

 

It's also worth noting that the H150i is s good 50% larger than any of the coolers tested above.

Untitled-1.jpg
AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16

EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators
Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB
Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Creed Bratton

If you choices are between an air cooler and an AIO, I'd go for the high-end air cooler.

 

On 5/18/2019 at 5:59 AM, yoječ said:

are arguably more practical, ie. easier to set up, they don't collide with large heatsinks on RAM and VRM, etc. 

Yes, but on the other hand a lot more could go wrong with an AIO. The only potential point of failure in air coolers is the fan. Some might see that as being more practical.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just to point out, they were using a 9700k in the LTT vid you linked, and the 9900k itself stays pretty hot at stock and can easily hit 90°-95° at 5ghz

Personally, I went with a cheap 240mm EVGA AIO, as 90% of name brand AIOs use the same asetek pump/rads, and switched out the fans like Sivis mentioned. 

7Rj3AZw.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

sivispacem
10 hours ago, DareYokel said:

If you choices are between an air cooler and an AIO, I'd go for the high-end air cooler.

 

Yes, but on the other hand a lot more could go wrong with an AIO. The only potential point of failure in air coolers is the fan. Some might see that as being more practical.

IMO the biggest issue with large air coolers is the size, weight and lack of bracing. Most of them are 900g plus, and I don't know about you but I'd rather not have a kilo of weight hanging unbraced and unsupported off my £300 motherboard.

Untitled-1.jpg
AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16

EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators
Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB
Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Creed Bratton
6 hours ago, sivispacem said:

IMO the biggest issue with large air coolers is the size, weight and lack of bracing. Most of them are 900g plus, and I don't know about you but I'd rather not have a kilo of weight hanging unbraced and unsupported off my £300 motherboard.

I don't think there's any real need for those types of air coolers anymore.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

sivispacem
5 minutes ago, DareYokel said:

I don't think there's any real need for those types of air coolers anymore.

All the high end air coolers are pretty big. The NH-D15 is nearly 1.5kg...

Untitled-1.jpg
AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16

EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators
Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB
Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Personally, I use Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B with two 140mm fans, which totals 790+2x161 = 1112 grams... so yeah, that's quite a lot. Fortunately Prolimatech mounting brackets are very sturdy, but still.

But still, that in itself doesn't bother me at all. However - my next build will probably feature an AiO of some sort, because I plan to get an ITX case, and the available space is a concern here.

74cXSsx.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

  • 1 User Currently Viewing
    0 members, 0 Anonymous, 1 Guest

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using GTAForums.com, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.