Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 ... make no limit holdem actually no limit? I get that you don't want us dumping credits to each other, but a $20 pot limit, really??? Hetraet, Clickalot, Chrismads and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLordMarvel Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Sure thing. Not sure how but I'll get right on it! Coranub 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Yes there should be up to $500 poker turnaments. You play with completely random players, whos name is hidden, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Chrismads said: Yes there should be up to $500 poker turnaments. You play with completely random players, whos name is hidden, anyway. Don't really need tournaments... would love to see 5 card draw though. That's what I think about when I think old west poker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBirdCoot Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 First don't allow players to join mid game. Then we can see about the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Smokewood said: Don't really need tournaments... would love to see 5 card draw though. That's what I think about when I think old west poker. I guess I didn't mean a tournament. Just meant a game with the same players all the way through. It should start with 5 players and end with 1 player. Because a $500 game with new "All-in all the time" players joining every minute would be a horrible experience. Never liked 5 draw myself, but the more game types the better. Hetraet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Chrismads said: I guess I didn't mean a tournament. Just meant a game with the same players all the way through. It should start with 5 players and end with 1 player. Because a $500 game with new "All-in all the time" players joining every minute would be a horrible experience. Never liked 5 draw myself, but the more game types the better. I disagree. There is a 5% rake online and without new players sitting down non-stop, everyone would go broke.  Besides, those all-in guys are REALLY easy to beat. Edited May 16, 2019 by Smokewood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) How are they easy to beat? If you chose to call them, It's all chance if you'll be able to beat them. I normally just wait them out unless I start out with a sick hand  Also, 5% rake.. what? How would everyone go broke without ppl joining all the time? Makes no sense, especially since it is a very normal way of playing poker to have a table with only the players who starts at the table. That's how it is in sp even. Why would you be broke for following the same system as sp? Edited May 16, 2019 by Chrismads Hetraet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, Chrismads said: How are they easy to beat? If you chose to call them, It's all chance if you'll be able to beat them. I normally just wait them out unless I start out with a sick hand  Also, 5% rake.. what? How would everyone go broke without ppl joining all the time? Makes no sense, especially since it is a very normal way of playing poker to have a table with only the players who starts at the table. That's how it is in sp even. Why would you be broke for following the same system as sp? There is no rake in sp. If no one new joins, the house will get all the money. Have you ever played poker in a casino or online like pokerstars? 30 minutes ago, Chrismads said: How are they easy to beat? If you chose to call them, It's all chance if you'll be able to beat them. I normally just wait them out unless I start out with a sick hand Looks like you already know how. Fold pre-flop unless you have a premium hand. Clickalot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Smokewood said: There is no rake in sp. If no one new joins, the house will get all the money. Have you ever played poker in a casino or online like pokerstars? No I have not. So if this 5% rake is such a problem, remove it 9 minutes ago, Smokewood said: Fold pre-flop unless you have a premium hand. That doesn't work very well when they keep coming though. Hetraet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chrismads said: No I have not. So if this 5% rake is such a problem, remove it That doesn't work very well when they keep coming though. lol, if they remove the rake, the house doesn't have a reason to run the game. Yes it does work, IF you are on a table where everyone is going all in every hand, THEN FOLD pre-flop until you get AA, KK, or AK  You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Smokewood said: lol, if they remove the rake, the house doesn't have a reason to run the game. Yes it does work, IF you are on a table where everyone is going all in every hand, THEN FOLD pre-flop until you get AA, KK, or AK Â You're welcome. The house? The npc saloon of valentine? Lol LonerStoner97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Chrismads said: The house? The npc saloon of valentine? Lol Rockstar, and yes. They are using this as a way to reduce the amount of in game cash. That's how poker rake works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 This isn't online poker. This is a minigame in a videogame. Lets just call it that and not worrying about a online casino needing to take a percentage of the bets to survive. There is no house or dealer in RDO. There's 5 players who takes turns to deal please Do 5% of the bets even disappear? I havnt notice that Hetraet and lewiz6235 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chrismads said: This isn't online poker. This is a minigame in a videogame. Lets just call it that and not worrying about a online casino needing to take a percentage of the bets to survive. There is no house or dealer in RDO. There's 5 players who takes turns to deal please Do 5% of the bets even disappear? I havnt notice that Again.. Rockstar is the house. I actually support cash sinks in the game and have always argued for casinos to fill that role. Fookin Laser Sights 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I don't hope that R* pays their employees with RDO$ that they rake from valentine saloon poker games. LonerStoner97, Hetraet and lewiz6235 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Chrismads said: I don't hope that R* pays their employees with RDO$ that they rake from valentine saloon poker games. Now you are just trolling. I showed why players must come and go, you admitted that you have zero experience with poker, and now you won't let it go. Â have a great day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Just now, Smokewood said: Now you are just trolling. I showed why players must come and go, you admitted that you have zero experience with poker, and now you won't let it go.  have a great day... I have experience with poker. Just not online poker. This isn't online poker. Do you not understand that? Btw I wrote that at the same time as you. Did not see your reply But if you cannot handle a calm discussion on a forum I cannot help you The Dedito Gae and Hetraet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chrismads said: This isn't online poker. Yes it is, because that's how R* set it up. Â Also, in story-mode players do come and go and in a bar in real life, players come and go. Edited May 16, 2019 by Smokewood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 They set it up like that maybe.. still haven't seen 5% disapear from my stack. But in game, it isn't online poker. It's 5 guys and no dealer. There is no house. I'm saying lose the rake fee (if that isn't just something you're making up because you're salty) and let the number of players be fixed so we can have proper poker games without all in'ers making it a pure luck game There would be no rake fee when there's no house. If you NEED money sinks go buy tonics Obviously you have no clue how poker is played in the real world outside an online casino Hetraet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chrismads said: Obviously you have no clue how poker is played in the real world outside an online casino lol There's a bar right down the street here that has poker games running. Are you saying that when someone busts out that someone else shouldn't have a seat? Â Forget rake, for a moment. BTW I believe it was in game when you first try poker it said 5% goes to the house. 7 minutes ago, Chrismads said: so we can have proper poker games without all in'ers making it a pure luck game lol, and you said I have no idea about poker? Just fold pre-flop to those idiots. They are EASY to beat. Wait for a premium hand and take them..... Edited May 16, 2019 by Smokewood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaigeGames Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chrismads said: They set it up like that maybe.. still haven't seen 5% disapear from my stack. But in game, it isn't online poker. It's 5 guys and no dealer. There is no house. I'm saying lose the rake fee (if that isn't just something you're making up because you're salty) and let the number of players be fixed so we can have proper poker games without all in'ers making it a pure luck game There would be no rake fee when there's no house. If you NEED money sinks go buy tonics Obviously you have no clue how poker is played in the real world outside an online casino Rockstar literally wrote in the rules section of the game that the house takes a 5% cut of all winnings. You can't just choose to remove them, its written into the game.  You are playing poker in an online multiplayer against real people so yes this is quite literally online poker Smokewood, Fookin Laser Sights and Pressure Drop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, RaigeGames said: Rockstar literally wrote in the rules section of the game that the house takes a 5% cut of all winnings. You can't just choose to remove them, its written into the game.  You are playing poker in an online multiplayer against real people so yes this is quite literally online poker When did i try to remove the rules? Please quote that part. I said I never noticed it what is wrong with you? It is not online poker. It is 6 cowboys sitting at a saloon.. therefore we shouldn't have to worry about uf the house needs to rake the winnings if it means that it is making the experience worse, which I think it is with all these players all-in'ing. If you like the way it is, fair enough, can't argue with that.. but don't give some dumbass bullsh*t that the house needs its cut. There is no house Hetraet and lewiz6235 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaigeGames Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Saying the house can't take 5% because there is no house is like saying Tony shouldn't take a percent of your nightclub earnings in GTA because Tony isn't real. It doesn't make sense 1 minute ago, Chrismads said: When did i try to remove the rules? Please quote that part. I said I never noticed it what is wrong with you? It is not online poker. It is 6 cowboys sitting at a saloon.. therefore we shouldn't have to worry about uf the house needs to rake the winnings if it means that it is making the experience worse, which I think it is with all these players all-in'ing. If you like the way it is, fair enough, can't argue with that.. but don't give some dumbass bullsh*t that the house needs its cut. There is no house You keep saying that we should just turn off or change the fact that the house is taking 5%. We can't change that because Rockstar automatically takes 5% out of all winnings. We can't choose whether or not the 5% is taken out.  If you look in the rules section for poker in game it mentions this Danelaw and Smokewood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokewood Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chrismads said: It is not online poker. It is 6 cowboys sitting at a saloon.. therefore we shouldn't have to worry about uf the house needs to rake the winnings if it means that it is making the experience worse, which I think it is with all these players all-in'ing. If you like the way it is, fair enough, can't argue with that.. but don't give some dumbass bullsh*t that the house needs its cut. There is no house The bar, Valentine Saloon, supplies the chips and the table and the chairs. In exchange they take 5% and sell more beer. You are right though in that there should be an npc dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, RaigeGames said: Saying the house can't take 5% because there is no house is like saying Tony shouldn't take a percent of your nightclub earnings in GTA because Tony isn't real. It doesn't make sense I'm saying the house don't NEED to take 5% because there isn't one. And it is dumb to take 5% of the winnings if it means it hurts gameplay which I think it does if it means players HAVE to come and go Also i do not know who tf Tony is. This is another game.. and nooo: it's not online poker either 1 minute ago, Smokewood said: The bar, Valentine Saloon, supplies the chips and the table and the chairs. In exchange they take 5% and sell more beer. You are right though in that there should be an npc dealer. If you think so, fair enough. I certainly do not lewiz6235 and Hetraet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaigeGames Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chrismads said: I'm saying the house don't NEED to take 5% because there isn't one. And it is dumb to take 5% of the winnings if it means it hurts gameplay which I think it does if it means players HAVE to come and go Of course they don't need to, but that's what Rockstar chose to do. Don't like it, petition to change it Smokewood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, Smokewood said: lol, if they remove the rake, the house doesn't have a reason to run the game. This is what triggered the discussion @RaigeGames ^ Smokeweed is talking like it is an online casino that asbolutely has to get payed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaigeGames Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) If you were playing poker at your own camp or in some back alley, then that would be a case where there is no house. But you're playing in a saloon with a structured set of rules therefore they become the house. Just like if you play poker at a casino they are the house  Do I like that Rockstar decided to take a 5% cut? No. But it was Rockstar's decision and the only way that's going to change is if someone petitions to change it.  In the end 5% isn't worth the trouble to try to change IMO unless we get higher stakes games Edited May 16, 2019 by RaigeGames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RaigeGames said: If you were playing poker at your own camp or in some back alley, then that would be a case where there is no house. But you're playing in a saloon with a structured set of rules therefore they become the house. Just like if you play poker at a casino they are the house Do I like that Rockstar decided to take a 5% cut? No. But it was Rockstar's decision and the only way that's going to change is if someone petitions to change it. Â In the end 5% isn't worth the trouble to try to change IMO unless we get higher stakes games I only don't wanna see it as an excuse of not letting us play "closed tables" (does that make sense? U know no players coming and going) Where open tables might work in the real world, I don't think it does here. Probably because it is just fictional currency at stake. Edited May 16, 2019 by Chrismads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
