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ApolloThunder

A former Rockstar employee has GTA 6 listed as an upcoming game on his resume

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Fetooh

Its kind of obvious that they are working in GTA 6 , so nothing new.

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Len Lfc
13 hours ago, Wolver_321 said:

Yep, you're right, but Christmas 2020 is just 1 year and a half away and we still don't know anything official about GTA VI. Maybe, like Microsoft did with GTA IV, GTA VI could be presented in the same PlayStation Experience of the PS5 reveal, but I doubt there will be just a year between the first trailer and the actual game.

Yeah, exactly. But remember, RDR2 was announced with a fall 2017 release window. If it had gone to plan, it would have released 1 year after announcement. And I think GTA V was penned for a late 2012 release, but that clearly didn't work out.

 

The only thing I don't know is if Rockstar announce games with genuine plans to release them when they initially plan. Or if it's part of their marketing to delay them and build hype. I know with RDR2 they changed a lot. The cinematic black bars meant a lot of scenes had to be reshot, and that takes a lot of time. And the nature of a huge open world requires a lot of bug fixing and polishing.

 

Like I've said previously, this could be genuine information, perhaps just outdated or old information, based of early release estimates. One thing we can all agree on is that when GTA VI is announced, it will be delayed once or twice.

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xHype

Nobody is gonna talk about "GTA V DLC"?

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EVOLUT7ON
20 minutes ago, xHype said:

Nobody is gonna talk about "GTA V DLC"?

Wrong topic. If you want to know anything, check out this topic pls;

As for his resume, he means gta online dlcs. MichelliGT was his project.

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ApolloThunder

Here is some more proof that Rockstar is working on multiple unannounced games
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Zello

 

Even if we get nothing dis is me right now.

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Jabalous
On 4/20/2019 at 5:24 PM, Damien Scott said:

That's a possibility but whether it's gonna be goofy or serious depends on the setting. If VI is set in VC, it'll probably be goofy like V and SA, now if it's set in Carcer City, it'll be serious like IV.

Why would the setting determine if it's doing to be goofy or serious? Vice City wasn't goofy and a new VC-based game can be either. It has nothing to do with the setting. I personally think that the story and characters will be more grounded and gritty than any GTA game before.

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Len Lfc
44 minutes ago, Jabalous said:

I personally think that the story and characters will be more grounded and gritty than any GTA game before.

I don't agree or disagree. I genuinely don't have any idea what tone the story may have. But what makes you think that?

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Jabalous
1 hour ago, Len Lfc said:

I don't agree or disagree. I genuinely don't have any idea what tone the story may have. But what makes you think that?

Four primary reasons:

 

1. The critique that V has received in regard to the writing and characters. There is almost a universal consensus that the story of the latest installment in the Grand Theft Auto franchise has failed to live up to the standards of the gritty crime-based franchise. Even a large portion of those who enjoyed the game more than IV admit the the latter has a more gripping story, while the former is too silly and has nothing interesting to say. Given that the writing is of a high importance to Dan Houser and co-writers, they'd definitely steer the wheel away from what they started in V. 

 

2. Red Dead influence. The only R* game that won 'Best Narrative/Story' in BAFTA and Game Awards is Redemption 2. Surely before this, and especially after this, Houser and co-writers realize that an interesting story can carry a game much further, making a more memorable and impactful experience both in the games and movies industry. Sure Red Dead is different to GTA, but what would stop them from creating a mature and drama-driven story in a modern-day setting? No reason, unless they stubbornly decide to stick to overly-done humor and cheap satire.

 

3. Increased graphical fidelity. With even better hardware for rendering virtual worlds, characters will get closer to looking photorealistic with more skin-level details compared to the muddy and cartoony style of V's characters, and this will call for a push toward more serious writing to match the increased level of fidelity. 

 

4. A reboot. This is just a guess, but after what would then be almost a decade without a new GTA game, R* will come out with something new and fresh instead of the same old. They'll maintain the same virtual universe, fake satirical names and all that, but there's a higher chance than before to take the story writing and characters building to a new, bold direction.

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TheSantader25

I personally think the story will be balanced because both V and IV have been criticized for going too deep into their gritty-ness or goofy-ness.

 

I hope it happens because I'm tired of using the words "gritty" and "goofy" and also tired of fanboy wars. I want a game most of us can agree we like. 

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Len Lfc
26 minutes ago, Jabalous said:

Four primary reasons:

 

1. The critique that V has received in regard to the writing and characters. There is almost a universal consensus that the story of the latest installment in the Grand Theft Auto franchise has failed to live up to the standards of the gritty crime-based franchise. Even a large portion of those who enjoyed the game more than IV admit the the latter has a more gripping story, while the former is too silly and has nothing interesting to say. Given that the writing is of a high importance to Dan Houser and co-writers, they'd definitely steer the wheel away from what they started in V. 

 

2. Red Dead influence. The only R* game that won 'Best Narrative/Story' in BAFTA and Game Awards is Redemption 2. Surely before this, and especially after this, Houser and co-writers realize that an interesting story can carry a game much further, making a more memorable and impactful experience both in the games and movies industry. Sure Red Dead is different to GTA, but what would stop them from creating a mature and drama-driven story in a modern-day setting? No reason, unless they stubbornly decide to stick to overly-done humor and cheap satire.

 

3. Increased graphical fidelity. With even better hardware for rendering virtual worlds, characters will get closer to looking photorealistic with more skin-level details compared to the muddy and cartoony style of V's characters, and this will call for a push toward more serious writing to match the increased level of fidelity. 

 

4. A reboot. This is just a guess, but after what would then be almost a decade without a new GTA game, R* will come out with something new and fresh instead of the same old. They'll maintain the same virtual universe, fake satirical names and all that, but there's a higher chance than before to take the story writing and characters building to a new, bold direction.

Okay, fair enough. I can respect thought out reasoning like that. My own thinking is just that they're the kind of people that just want to do what they want, rather than addressing what some fans might think. And with V's success, people who didn't like it might be in the minority. I don't think RDR2 will impact VI much, as they're two separate series with different story telling. I personally liked V's story and characters. I found them very enjoyable, and was a nice change from IV's gritty depressing story. Not to say I didn't like that, I did, I loved it. I just liked both. And I enjoy things being different each time. So I'd welcome a story and characters not like V. 

 

But I just think they'll do what they want. And there's a chance that they enjoyed writing V, and might want to do something similar again. It also depends on where the game takes place. 

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Fun 2

I remember the development notes I received from @Razed-

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On 6/2/2017 at 7:05 PM, Razed- said:

Since the cat's out of the bag...

 

He got it from me. I obtained it back in 2013 and shared it with Funz, Ash and Mega. I do not wish for any of these people to leak it. I used to have tons and tons more stuff like the Liberty City V map model and some RDR3 (it used to be referenced as 3) model assets, but lost everything for unrelated reasons I had no control over. There is a big part of me that would love to share the full details and talk about all the crazy sh*t I had, but I am still under REDACTED (for unrelated reasons) and must protect myself.

 

As for who wrote the notes in that document? Haha!! Let's just say he's a top dog at North.

The notes date back to 2012, and it mentioned that RDR2 was in full production. It was confirmed by Rockstar that it took them 7/8 years of development to make RDR2.

It also mentioned GTA 6 was in pre-production, so I'm thinking it could end up like RDR2 case.

The problem is that two/three years ago, there were rumors saying the next title is Bully 2 and not to mention "Bully2Info" who was a member here ? or on reddit ? Anyway, he leaked concept art for what seems to be Bully 2.

I wonder if Bully 2 was cancelled and R* decided to go with GTA 6 ? Maybe it's the right choice ? We live in times where people are sensitive over anything. It will just take one sensitive dude to make a lawsuit against Rockstar and the rest of the world will follow his steps.

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1 hour ago, Fun 2 said:

I remember the development notes I received from @Razed-

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The notes date back to 2012, and it mentioned that RDR2 was in full production. It was confirmed by Rockstar that it took them 7/8 years of development to make RDR2.

It also mentioned GTA 6 was in pre-production, so I'm thinking it could end up like RDR2 case.

The problem is that two/three years ago, there were rumors saying the next title is Bully 2 and not to mention "Bully2Info" who was a member here ? or on reddit ? Anyway, he leaked concept art for what seems to be Bully 2.

I wonder if Bully 2 was cancelled and R* decided to go with GTA 6 ? Maybe it's the right choice ? We live in times where people are sensitive over anything. It will just take one sensitive dude to make a lawsuit against Rockstar and the rest of the world will follow his steps.

Yeah good point there, nowdays it's like walking on a minefield when you try to make jokes even if they are harmless as hell. With Bully I could see an outrage over the game, really sad times in which we live in.

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Damien Scott
4 hours ago, Jabalous said:

Why would the setting determine if it's doing to be goofy or serious? Vice City wasn't goofy and a new VC-based game can be either. It has nothing to do with the setting. I personally think that the story and characters will be more grounded and gritty than any GTA game before.

VC was more goofy than serious IMO, just look at the missions, the one which you have to wreak havoc on the city, for example. The setting almost always determine the tone of the game. V and SA were set in LS and both were goofy, IV and III were set in LC and they were more grounded and serious. 

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Fun 2

People are going crazy over the one month exclusivity that Sony is trying to secure, seriously they did it with Red Dead Online, I didn't see anyone complaining or making a big deal of that, or is it because it's different series and GTA is more popular and shouldn't be exclusive ?

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DisCrafted
24 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

People are going crazy over the one month exclusivity that Sony is trying to secure, seriously they did it with Red Dead Online, I didn't see anyone complaining or making a big deal of that, or is it because it's different series and GTA is more popular and shouldn't be exclusive ?

The rumor states that the whole game is going to be exclusive for one month, not just some extra content. That "rumor" is BS anyways imo. I've given my reasons on why before.

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Pete4000uk

Imagine an announcement two weeks before release! Every day new info drops. Instant hype.

 

Anyway, I expect more people will be moving on from R* and letting slip that they have worked on 6. Thay might already be out there.

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DisCrafted

Announcing a game 2 weeks before release? Hahaha. That's not how marketing works even if it's GTA. And we all know how Rockstar likes to do things.

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Fun 2
11 minutes ago, DisCrafted said:

The rumor states that the whole game is going to be exclusive for one month, not just some extra content. That "rumor" is BS anyways imo. I've given my reasons on why before.

Of course it won't be the whole game. The rumor wasn't talking details but I'm pretty sure whoever leaked it meant the multiplayer side of the game and not the game itself.

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DisCrafted
5 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

I remember the development notes I received from @Razed-

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The notes date back to 2012, and it mentioned that RDR2 was in full production. It was confirmed by Rockstar that it took them 7/8 years of development to make RDR2.

It also mentioned GTA 6 was in pre-production, so I'm thinking it could end up like RDR2 case.

The problem is that two/three years ago, there were rumors saying the next title is Bully 2 and not to mention "Bully2Info" who was a member here ? or on reddit ? Anyway, he leaked concept art for what seems to be Bully 2.

I wonder if Bully 2 was cancelled and R* decided to go with GTA 6 ? Maybe it's the right choice ? We live in times where people are sensitive over anything. It will just take one sensitive dude to make a lawsuit against Rockstar and the rest of the world will follow his steps.

Ash talked about those documents, possible locations list that was in that document:

 

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Small town gta - tight stories, scheduled characters, ridiculous levels of ambience, every home interior modelled. Every building enterable. More realism - if your wanted you are on the run for a while.

 

Vegas 1970s

 

Somewhere snowy - chicago/detroit

 

Mexico City

But here's the thing: Honestly did they really get serious with VI's development once V was released? I mean, they were busy with GTAO updates and RDR2's development and there was that Techradar article in 2016 saying "preliminary work had begun"
I feel like they actually kinda put VI on the backburner during 2013-2015/16. Nowadays of course I'm absolutely sure they're ramping up production after RDR2's release.
 

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Fun 2

@DisCrafted Just like you, I don't think GTA VI is coming next year.

The thing is that every new game is built on an improved engine build, like RDR2 is using a better version of RAGE engine than GTA V even though there are lots of GTAV leftovers in the files.

I don't see Rockstar wasting a better version of their engine on current-gen consoles, that's why I think they may have waited until they hear details about the next-gen consoles which may have happened back in 2016/2017 and started the serious work on the next GTA.

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DisCrafted
2 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

@DisCrafted Just like you, I don't think GTA VI is coming next year.

The thing is that every new game is built on an improved engine build, like RDR2 is using a better version of RAGE engine than GTA V even though there are lots of GTAV leftovers in the files.

I don't see Rockstar wasting a better version of their engine on current-gen consoles, that's why I think they may have waited until they hear details about the next-gen consoles which may have happened back in 2016/2017 and started the serious work on the next GTA.

That's exactly what I'm thinking.

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Re-Dragon-Cro
2 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

People are going crazy over the one month exclusivity that Sony is trying to secure, seriously they did it with Red Dead Online, I didn't see anyone complaining or making a big deal of that, or is it because it's different series and GTA is more popular and shouldn't be exclusive ?

As usual, people see the word exclusive and think it will be on that platform only, instead they should try to read full details then they would realize that it's stated as a timed exclusive. Hell I remember when there was a timed exclusive on the GTAIV Episode DLCs for Xbox 360, however that exclusivity deal was longer than a month if I remember right.

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Len Lfc
2 hours ago, DisCrafted said:

That's exactly what I'm thinking.

Exactly. That's what put my release estimation around 2021-2024. you'd imagine they'd like to have at least a couple of years development on hardware they know is final. Which as of right now it seems to be very close to final. Only minor changes likely. A 2020 reveal could be possible. Sony could have a marketing tactic to get people to buy PS5's, especially if they're selling the console at a loss (unlike PS4) and Xbox are expected to be much stronger next gen. Last gen was a perfect storm for Sony, they surely can't repeat that, even if I do expect them to have the (overall) better gaming platform, in terms of games.

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thegtaking20

Yeah this seems legit however it doesnt mean that much in terms of when we can expect the launch let alone official announcement of GTA 6 (if its even gonna be called that ) .

Its been almost 6 years now since GTA 5 released however GTA Online is still doeing incredibly good on this generation consoles i believe stores like best-buy and Amazon still have GTA V in there top ranking best selling games .

 

Good news is that this generation consoles is heading to its end (PS4 , XBOX One ) and the next generation consoles will probably even be announced this year and released sometime in 2020 or early 2021 .

GTA 6 could be (hopefully) one of the major launch titles even for both PS5 and XBOX 2 (still concept names ) 

 

Now to talk about in which phase of development the game is in my opinion i think its around 60-70 % done  R* put most of there effort last 3-4 years in RDR 2 and there for GTA 6 was probably already in development but verry early stages .

Now that RDR 2 is out of the way R* probably gonna focus 100% of there man power on GTA 6 however this doesnt mean the game is coming anytime soon if you know R* and i'm sure most of you do you know they take there time creating videogames .

This aint Ubisoft were talking about here xD! .  

 

So how about the setting ? , well i think Vice City has a big change of making a comeback Miami could be the perfect setting for a new GTA as LA aka Los Santos was for GTA V i dont think GTA is goeing to move out of the USA -

like some rumors are stating Brasil or somewhere in central america .  I think R* and the GTA universe is married to the American landscape with some differences ofcourse .

However i do think switching between cities this time could be a big change yes imagine Vice City being the biggest city in the game and then a second one a bit smaller maybe located outside of the USA even .

And then ofcourse all the mountains , desserts and oceans in between as you are used from GTA . 

 

So coming to a close here to wrap it all up yes GTA 6 is coming but i dont think it will be announced anytime soon not aslong there still busy with GTA online and RDR 2 extra content like RDR 2 online etc... 

Also keep in mind Bully fans have been waiting for ages for a new Bully game so R* could even be setting there focus on that game (changes are slim tho as GTA is hugley more populair ) . 

I believe a PS5 release with GTA 6 bundle could be a pretty logicial thing to see in the future its not gonna be the near future tho .... 

 

Any comments or thoughts please send a reply ! . 

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Len Lfc
11 minutes ago, thegtaking20 said:

i believe stores like best-buy and Amazon still have GTA V in there top ranking best selling games .

This is for the UK alone, all platforms. GTA V is at number 9.

 

https://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015

 

13 minutes ago, thegtaking20 said:

Good news is that this generation consoles is heading to its end (PS4 , XBOX One ) and the next generation consoles will probably even be announced this year and released sometime in 2020 or early 2021

PS5 is definitely coming November 2020. Don't think they'll be officially announced this year. Maybe similar to 2013, with an event in february. However, a PSX reveal in December this year is likely, too. Microsoft could try to get in first, and reveal Scarlett at this E3, but over a year out seems unlikely. However they did that with Scorpio, albeit that was a mid gen refresh, and it was just an announcement with no details.

 

17 minutes ago, thegtaking20 said:

Now to talk about in which phase of development the game is in my opinion i think its around 60-70 % done  R* put most of there effort last 3-4 years in RDR 2 and there for GTA 6 was probably already in development but verry early stages .

Now that RDR 2 is out of the way R* probably gonna focus 100% of there man power on GTA 6 however this doesnt mean the game is coming anytime soon if you know R* and i'm sure most of you do you know they take there time creating videogames .

This aint Ubisoft were talking about here xD! .  

 

So how about the setting ? , well i think Vice City has a big change of making a comeback Miami could be the perfect setting for a new GTA as LA aka Los Santos was for GTA V i dont think GTA is goeing to move out of the USA -

like some rumors are stating Brasil or somewhere in central america .  I think R* and the GTA universe is married to the American landscape with some differences ofcourse .

However i do think switching between cities this time could be a big change yes imagine Vice City being the biggest city in the game and then a second one a bit smaller maybe located outside of the USA even .

And then ofcourse all the mountains , desserts and oceans in between as you are used from GTA . 

 

So coming to a close here to wrap it all up yes GTA 6 is coming but i dont think it will be announced anytime soon not aslong there still busy with GTA online and RDR 2 extra content like RDR 2 online etc... 

Also keep in mind Bully fans have been waiting for ages for a new Bully game so R* could even be setting there focus on that game (changes are slim tho as GTA is hugley more populair ) . 

I believe a PS5 release with GTA 6 bundle could be a pretty logicial thing to see in the future its not gonna be the near future tho .... 

 

I used to think they wouldn't start on development for GTA VI until after RDR2 released. But I'm starting to come around to the idea that perhaps they had a team working on it during RDR2's development. Not so much pre production, but perhaps just a little more. Obviously they were doing pre production during RDR2, but perhaps they were doing more. I'm still not sure...

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Jabalous
6 hours ago, Damien Scott said:

VC was more goofy than serious IMO, just look at the missions, the one which you have to wreak havoc on the city, for example. The setting almost always determine the tone of the game. V and SA were set in LS and both were goofy, IV and III were set in LC and they were more grounded and serious. 

Wreaking havoc is the essence of every GTA game, including IV, and that doesn't make a difference between goofy or serious. The story, themes, characters and the dialogue are what make the difference, and judging Vice City against all of that, it's far from being a goofy experience. VI can have a VC-based setting and still features the most brutal and violent story revolving around cartels business, from drugs and weapons trade to human trafficking across the borders. 

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Len Lfc

I think the term goofy is confused with the word fun, tbh...

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15 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

I used to think they wouldn't start on development for GTA VI until after RDR2 released. But I'm starting to come around to the idea that perhaps they had a team working on it during RDR2's development. Not so much pre production, but perhaps just a little more. Obviously they were doing pre production during RDR2, but perhaps they were doing more. I'm still not sure...

Yeah, I imagine there comes a point in development where certain members just aren't as vital anymore and get shifted onto other projects. Like, the team responsible for designing and building the environment or character designers can probably start breaking off into other things after a while. 

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52 minutes ago, Re-Dragon-Cro said:

As usual, people see the word exclusive and think it will be on that platform only, instead they should try to read full details then they would realize that it's stated as a timed exclusive. Hell I remember when there was a timed exclusive on the GTAIV Episode DLCs for Xbox 360, however that exclusivity deal was longer than a month if I remember right.

Oh, absolutely longer... Microsoft had a 1 year exclusive on both expansions. And if I remember correctly, they released only EFLC on PS3 and PC when TBoGT turned 1 year old, so TLaD has been exclusive on Xbox 360 even more than a year (on the ESRB site if you search "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost And Damned" there's just the Xbox 360 version, so in theory on PC And PS3 there's just EFLC).

In this case the main game would be excluisve, but I don't see why Xbox users can't wait 1 month for playing GTA VI... Yes, it sucks to don't be able to play one of the most waited games at day one, but there are just 30 days to wait!

But I still think there will be just an exclusive on online content like RDO, I don't see Rockstar releasing GTA VI just on a platform for 1 month.

 

3 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

This is for the UK alone, all platforms. GTA V is at number 9.

 

https://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015

Well, last week here in Italy it was the most selled game (PS4 version) 😁

https://multiplayer.it/notizie/grand-theft-auto-5-supera-yoshi-sekiro-gioco-piu-venduto-italia-week-14-2019.html

But it's more than clear how GTA Online is going down, Arena War was just a big adversary mode and now I think they're out of content to dripfeed since some weeks. I don't know how many people still buy Shark Cards, but I guess their revenues from GTA Online aren't that big anymore. But when next-gen consoles will be out, they can't continue with GTA V. Probably PS5 and Xbox 2(?) will be both backwards compatible with current-gen titles, but I don't think there'll be people still buying a "future old-gen title".

 

Regarding Bully 2, I think it has been delayed for releasing GTA VI at the start of next-gen. GTA VI, if it's well made, could resist for 6-7 years (like GTA V), while other series like RDR (or Red Dead if you prefer) and Bully attract less people.

GTA VI could potentially cover the entire lifespan of next-gen consoles, Bully 2 or RDR3 could be released as late mid-gen titles for having another source of revenue.

 

46 minutes ago, thegtaking20 said:

So coming to a close here to wrap it all up yes GTA 6 is coming but i dont think it will be announced anytime soon not aslong there still busy with GTA online and RDR 2 extra content like RDR 2 online etc... 

Also keep in mind Bully fans have been waiting for ages for a new Bully game so R* could even be setting there focus on that game (changes are slim tho as GTA is hugley more populair ) . 

I believe a PS5 release with GTA 6 bundle could be a pretty logicial thing to see in the future its not gonna be the near future tho .... 

PS5 + GTA VI? Mhh, possible but I think very unlikely. For me PS5 will be out by Fall 2020, GTA VI isn't announced yet and I guess Rockstar needs at least 1 year for a good marketing campaign.

My bet is: PS5 announced at PSExperience (maybe November/December 2019) + GTA VI teaser trailer and announcement of exclusive content on PS5. Microsoft will be at E3, so maybe they could announce their new console this summer.

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