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[Jason]

Could be a stock thing as well, idk?

 

The Switch 2 is strongly rumoured for Q1/Q2, so you'd think it wouldn't be an ideal time to release the Pro.

 

Very odd if it doesn't make it out this year IMO.

[Adam Jensen]

54 minutes ago, LongHairedFreakyGuy said:

You'd think Sony would have done everything possible to release it before Xmas, thus giving them enough time to sell it as a bundle with GTA6

GTA VI release date is more than a year away, if everything goes well. Plenty of time to bundle it with the PS5 Pro.

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

4 minutes ago, Adam Jensen said:

GTA VI release date is more than a year away, if everything goes well. Plenty of time to bundle it with the PS5 Pro.

 

Bundled with is an option, but I was more getting at Xmas would be ideal to get some sales in, then a few months would pass to enable retailers to offer a 'deal' on a bundle, even if it's only like 10% off. 

[lndex]

I wonder why. But it's not like there's the 2020 chip shortage now either. Henderson's comment was pretty vague, so I'll take it w/ a pinch of salt, lol.

[Jason]

https://insider-gaming.com/playstation-5-pro-2024-release/

 

So his tweet was ???, cause as far as he knows it's still on track for 2024, he's expecting November.

[lndex]

Gathered as much, people took his tweet the wrong way, understandable because it was vague as f*ck.

 

Do end up wondering what big games Sony will have to advertise w/ the Pro then, lol.

[Jason]

Astrobot 8k/60fps lol.

 

CoD marketing is back in Xbox's hands it seems, so.. AC Shadows? Who has the marketing for that? That might be the one, it's out in November too. I would guess it'd just be again native 4k/60 or something close to that.

[Jason]

 

 

First look at a PS5 Pro update. There's not an awful lot that's changed, one or two settings got bumped up but the main thing is the minimum dynamic resolution got bumped up quite a bit, with the DSR floor being closer to native 4k. Obviously things can change between now and the PS5 Pro launch, as this is still using FSR and not PSSR.

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

See, the more I think about it, the more I'm actually wondering if the PS5 Pro would actually be a beneficial purchase for me, given the fact that I'm on a somewhat budget Hisense TV, and doubt the Pro would actually be any different whatsoever to my current PS5. Yes, I get that it will somewhat (maybe?) increase load times and games will be much smoother, but for the average gamer like me, is it really going to be worth shelling out for, besides having the funds readily available for it? 

 

Wouldn't be surprised at all if this is Sony's thinking right now too. 

[Jason]

Do you have a 4k TV? The Pro will likely be used more for native 4k (or closer to native 4k) than 60fps modes in games without a 60fps modes. The frame rates will of course be a bit more stable mind you. There would still ne some benefit of playing the Pro on a 1080p screen, as the 4k downsampled to 1080p will produce a better image than just 1080p, the normal PS5 does this already ofc, but again , the Pro will likely run games at higher res.

 

If you ask me, the Pro is worth it if you're gonna play a lot of PS5 stuff on the PS5. If it's not your primary platform then no, I doubt it'll be worth it unless you have cash to burn.

[lndex]

I'm not quite sure what that actually is/means, lol. But yeah, there are supposedly new RT features for the Pro.

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

13 hours ago, Jason said:

Do you have a 4k TV? The Pro will likely be used more for native 4k (or closer to native 4k) than 60fps modes in games without a 60fps modes. The frame rates will of course be a bit more stable mind you. There would still ne some benefit of playing the Pro on a 1080p screen, as the 4k downsampled to 1080p will produce a better image than just 1080p, the normal PS5 does this already ofc, but again , the Pro will likely run games at higher res.

 

If you ask me, the Pro is worth it if you're gonna play a lot of PS5 stuff on the PS5. If it's not your primary platform then no, I doubt it'll be worth it unless you have cash to burn.

 

Yep, 4k TV. As I said, the funds will be there and I'll no doubt pick it up anyway just because I'm in the lucky position right now where I can stay in the current gen of gaming, but I don't know, I don't know what I was expecting with the console to be honest. Hopefully we see an end on having to choose between Performance and Quality at some point. 

[Jason]

Yea looking at that TV it's yer boggo standard solid but cheap 4k budget TV, as you know. Only you can figure out if the Pro is worth.... or maybe put that money towards a new TV? You can get OLED/FALD display at around 50" for not insane money now, expensive still of course, but I've spotted LG OLED's for 700-800 quid in the UK.

 

Having a nice OLED/FALD display in SDR is a nice step up in visual quality on it's own, but these are the only two types of displays that can do proper HDR and when you get a game/film with good HDR, oof baby. Last decade the best "secret" upgrade on PC was an SSD, but given everyone now has SSD's and after owning an OLED monitor for a few weeks, I'm honestly in the camp of the best "secret" upgrade of this decade is an OLED/FALD display, and 100% this applies to console as well.

 

Food for thought anywho.

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

On 7/14/2024 at 2:30 AM, LongHairedFreakyGuy said:

Speaking of getting time to game, I'm seriously considering getting the PS Portal. Has a lot of pros and cons though, especially for a £200 device. 

 

 

Well, decided to finally bite the bullet and just go for it today. Only had time to give it a quick test earlier, but I'm actually impressed so far. I mean, yes, it's essentially a tablet with the PS5 controller on either side, but the quality of it is brilliant so far. Compared to my other handheld, it's the comfiest one so far to be gaming with, because you are essentially just holding a controller, and the product has little weight to it. Picture quality is just as expected too, and I've gotten quite used to playing on smaller screens now with my other handhelds. Did notice some slight blurring on Forbidden West, but I'm putting that down to my PS5 not been hardwired in to my router, so need to change all that around tomorrow. 

 

Earphones are on the expensive side, but I'll let it slide since they're of decent quality too. 

 

Case is decent too, heard many complaints about people not finding a decent case that doesn't depress the sticks. 

 

On 7/22/2024 at 11:13 AM, Jason said:

Yea looking at that TV it's yer boggo standard solid but cheap 4k budget TV, as you know. Only you can figure out if the Pro is worth.... or maybe put that money towards a new TV? You can get OLED/FALD display at around 50" for not insane money now, expensive still of course, but I've spotted LG OLED's for 700-800 quid in the UK.

 

Having a nice OLED/FALD display in SDR is a nice step up in visual quality on it's own, but these are the only two types of displays that can do proper HDR and when you get a game/film with good HDR, oof baby. Last decade the best "secret" upgrade on PC was an SSD, but given everyone now has SSD's and after owning an OLED monitor for a few weeks, I'm honestly in the camp of the best "secret" upgrade of this decade is an OLED/FALD display, and 100% this applies to console as well.

 

Food for thought anywho.

 

Had a £400'ish Toshiba a couple years back, but it started getting all the lines on it. Started off with just one, then like a week later it was no longer bearable. Warranty had just run out too, so just ended up throwing it in the tip, so basically the Hisense was just a budget TV to replace it with the little money I had at the time, and with a kid in the house just learning to walk, I didn't exactly want anything too expensive. Tbf, given the price range of the TV, it's done me well so far, and picture quality isn't too bad (again, for the price range). 

 

I have been looking at new TV's though, so it might finally be time to bite the bullet and go for one around the £1k mark, getting me prepared for the PS5 Pro when it arrives, along with all the upcoming games I'm after. 

 

Like I said, it's not a matter of if the PS5 Pro is going to be better or not, but whether or not it's going to be released with enough games to show off its true potential. 

[Moonshine Wagon Fan]

Astro Bot Dualsense to be released.

 

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

On 7/29/2024 at 4:19 PM, Moonshine Wagon Fan said:

Astro Bot Dualsense to be released.

 

 

I actually like the look of this controller, if not just for the colour scheme alone, but the nice gimmicky eyes on it. Like the fact that a game that was technically a tech demo is one of my favourite PS5 titles. Just need to clear up the last few missing pieces now. 

 

@Jason So not going to lie, was shopping around for some TV's and I'm a little lost with all the different tech these days. Went looking at OLED and ended up with QLED and QNED and what have you. I know I probably need to research and look around myself, but any you'd recommend in the like £900 range? Baring in mind the TV I have now, I'm easily pleased but kind of want to get in the stage where games really 'pop out'... 

[lndex]

Maybe QD-OLED? If you're looking for more vibrant colours, deeper blacks, higher peak brightness, and really nice HDR, then that'll be your best bet. Unfortunately, I can't quite recommend any TVs, price ranges, or other OLED tech as I've only had hands-on experience with QD-OLED, so it'll really be down to what you want. I've seen the 55" Samsung SC90 around your price range on Amazon: 4K, 120Hz, and VRR. Maybe it's worth a read-up about it? RTINGS will also be the best place for TV/monitor reviews if you're ever on the fence about what to buy. 

[Jason]

1 hour ago, LongHairedFreakyGuy said:

So not going to lie, was shopping around for some TV's and I'm a little lost with all the different tech these days. Went looking at OLED and ended up with QLED and QNED and what have you. I know I probably need to research and look around myself, but any you'd recommend in the like £900 range? Baring in mind the TV I have now, I'm easily pleased but kind of want to get in the stage where games really 'pop out'... 

 

So any type of "QXXX" panel is a Samsung panel, Q referring to their "quantum dot" technology. It's their marketing term for their technology which supposedly has better colours etc.

 

The big thing with OLED and FALD/MiniLED is that they are really the only displays capable of proper HDR, as HDR requires that a screen can get both really bright but also really dark.

 

In any case, the most important thing is the type of panel, which is either gonna be LED, MiniLED/FALD or OLED.

 

LED: This is the old bog standard type of LED screen we all know, coming in either TN (super low budget), VA or IPS (mostly seen in monitors AFAIK), with a full backlit screen. They can get brighter than OLED's, but they can't get dark because of the backlight

 

FALD/MiniLED: Samsung calls it MiniLED, but it's general name is FALD (full array local dimming). These are an LED display where instead of one big backlight you have anywhere from a few dozen to hundreds or 1k+ backlit zones spread across the panel, which can turn off/on independently, resulting in a screen that generally has really good black levels, aka it can get dark - on a black image a FALD/MiniLED or OLED screen looks like it's turned off, cause in a way it is. That said, the drawback of MiniLED/FALD at the moment is there's not quite enough local dimming zones to prevent "haloing", which is when say a really bright spot (like a star in a nights sky) is right next to pitch black (like the nights sky), so you'd see some glow around the star. MiniLED/FALD screens can also still have the same issues VA and IPS screens use, as FALD's are still built on those panel types, but like LED's they can get super bright, brighter than OLED's.

 

OLED: Only LG and Samsung make OLED TV's and monitors, no one else, LG's form is "WOLED" (white OLED) and Samsung's is QD-OLED, but don't worry much about this, OLED is OLED, the differences are minor. OLED's party trick is that each individual pixel can control its self, so where as a 4k MiniLED TV might have between 500-1000 backlight zones, a 4k OLED panel has about 8.2 million, aka 3840x2160. This means that OLED can do really bright objects of any size and put them right up against pitch black objects, with no haloing. It's that contrast that makes things really pop on an OLED screen. OLED's also have god tier response times at 0.03ms, making them absolutely perfect for gaming. They just have one draw back which is that they are more suspectable to burn in than traditional LED/FALD/MiniLED screens. - burn in being when a static image (like a taskbar or a HUD) is displayed for too long and the image is retained on the screen. Newer models are more resistant to this than the first generation, and every OLED screen has built in features to reduce the risk of permanent burn in. Still, OLED monitor users are generally recommended to do things like hide the taskbar, but rtings (a very good review site) has been running torture tests for burn in on all panel types for over a year and basically there's nothing really for the general user to be concerned about, and many OLED screens have warranty that covers burn in for extra peace of mind.

 

As for what I'd recommend that really depends on screen size. LG have a number of good OLED's at sub £1k, but the bigger screens are well into the £1000 range, but last I checked you can get either a Samsung or LG 48"-55" OLED for around 1k or under, especially on a sale. You might be able to get bigger for £1k if you go with a Samsung MiniLED screen, which will still look great and much better than a traditional LED.

 

edit: yes, if you want reviews, look up the model on rtings.com. They go deep into the technical stuff, but they have easy to read scores for various aspects and use cases - SDR, HDR, console gaming, PC gaming, etc. They'll also have alternative options in their reviews as well.

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

I appreciate this massively, thank you for that write up! The Samsung S90c keeps popping up no matter where I look, so will be looking in to getting that one as my next upgrade.

 

Edit: For some reason I didn't see your post before I replied @lndex but weird seeing I mentioned the same one you did.

Edited August 1 by LongHairedFreakyGuy

[Jason]

The thing to remember with OLED is there's not really such a thing as a bad OLED at the moment, they're all high end panels, and the actual panels are all (at least the ones made in TV's and monitors atm) made by LG or Samsung. I believe you might be able to get something like a Phillips OLED, which again will use an LG or Samsung panel, for cheaper than an LG or Samsung, but it'll still be a great TV or monitor.

 

The one bit of advice I'd give is to make sure the warranty covers burn in, cause again that's OLED's only real drawback. I know Samsung's monitors do not cover burn in in their warranty, but I believe their TV's do, but yea, I'd check just to be 100% sure before you buy. It's worth it for the peace of mind.

[Jason]

It's all went horribly wrong with Sony's acquisition of Bungie.

 

There's talk that Bungie oversold their hand to Sony when they bought them, and have failed completely to meet Sony's expectations as a result. Destiny 2's latest DLC, while well received, undersold, and now Sony have essentially taken full control over the studio, slicing a portion of the staff away and moving them to elsewhere under SIE, and some potentially being let go altogether.

 

Talk is Marathon is their "do or die" project, if it fails it could end very bad for Bungie.

 

Personally, and I don't say this happily, but I expect the bad times to continue. I really have never rated Bungie outside Halo, I thought Destiny was a fairly poor looter shooter with great gunplay, and their post-launch support of it has been an absolute mess (content archiving and all that) that was inevitably going to hurt them in the long run, as well as making the new player experience just bloody awful knowing there's story content you missed out on that you can't do.

 

Obviously I don't blame the actual devs for this, this is a leadership problem and it's been evident for years at Bungie.

[Moonshine Wagon Fan]

I pre ordered this:

 

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

On 8/1/2024 at 3:06 PM, LongHairedFreakyGuy said:

I appreciate this massively, thank you for that write up! The Samsung S90c keeps popping up no matter where I look, so will be looking in to getting that one as my next upgrade.

 

Edit: For some reason I didn't see your post before I replied @lndex but weird seeing I mentioned the same one you did.

 

Feel like a proper caveman saying this, but I can't believe even just the simple popping of colors makes everything feel so fresh after I upgraded the TV. So glad I bit the bullet and finally upgraded. Now roll on my PS5 Pro. 

 

@Jason Never touched it myself due to the style of the game, even though I was really tempted by it back in the day, but yes, seems like a shame to see another company seemingly going under, and from what I've seen, it's yet again down to upper management. Some quite harsh things getting said by ex(?) employees. Thing we're in for quite a lot of big companies going under as the years go on. The long game cycles mean that every game seemingly has to be a 10/10 now, and ones with enough content to forever be in the limelight. 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, LongHairedFreakyGuy said:

Feel like a proper caveman saying this, but I can't believe even just the simple popping of colors makes everything feel so fresh after I upgraded the TV. So glad I bit the bullet and finally upgraded. Now roll on my PS5 Pro. 

 

Yep! Especially when you get a game with good HDR, which admittedly isn't a lot of them and the PS5 doesn't have an "AutoHDR" feature like Xbox, but man good HDR when you get it is really nice. Bright, vibrant, things that are meant to be shiny like gold and silver actually look shiny etc.

 

An OLED or a good FALD display is the best upgrade you can get on console and PC at the moment IMO. 

 

2 minutes ago, LongHairedFreakyGuy said:

Never touched it myself due to the style of the game, even though I was really tempted by it back in the day, but yes, seems like a shame to see another company seemingly going under, and from what I've seen, it's yet again down to upper management. Some quite harsh things getting said by ex(?) employees. Thing we're in for quite a lot of big companies going under as the years go on. The long game cycles mean that every game seemingly has to be a 10/10 now, and ones with enough content to forever be in the limelight. 

 

Destiny 2 has done alright as a game financially, it's just been dogged by leadership decisions and weird limitations where they've had to remove content people paid for - which is shocking. But it's long in the tooth now, and it's far from it's prime.

 

So when you add that up with the leadership seemingly burning money on other projects that went no where, potentially misleading Sony w/ how they were doing, to now place their bets on what by all accounts is a PvPvE extraction shooter, a genre which is now years old on PC and has yet to find literally any success on console, despite a couple of attempts by games like CoD with spin off modes etc, is all a bit, uh, oof. For years people including my self thought the extraction shooter was the heir apparent to battle royales on console, but honestly seeing how that genre has went on PC, I'm really not sure it is.

[Jason]

Rumours from some reliable people pointing towards Forza Horizon 5 being the next Xbox game to be announced for PS5, likely at Gamescom which starts next week on the 20th I believe.

 

Forza on PlayStation is a big one for sure, I know it's Horizon and not Motorsport but I mean... Horizon is now by far away the biggest Forza game these days.

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Rumours from some reliable people pointing towards Forza Horizon 5 being the next Xbox game to be announced for PS5, likely at Gamescom which starts next week on the 20th I believe.

 

Forza on PlayStation is a big one for sure, I know it's Horizon and not Motorsport but I mean... Horizon is now by far away the biggest Forza game these days.

 

I believe it was Shinobi that hinted towards it being a big title, with one post I saw just a Gif of Mexico, which only amplifies that it could be Horizon 5. I did however see that some mentioned Killer Instinct been the one that's getting ported, but in today's day and age, does that game even qualify as a 'big title' anymore? As much as I'm not a fan of FH5, this could be a major title for PlayStation... 

[Ivan1997GTA]

6 hours ago, Jason said:

Rumours from some reliable people pointing towards Forza Horizon 5 being the next Xbox game to be announced for PS5, likely at Gamescom which starts next week on the 20th I believe.

 

Forza on PlayStation is a big one for sure, I know it's Horizon and not Motorsport but I mean... Horizon is now by far away the biggest Forza game these days.

A Forza game? On a PlayStation console? Madness!

 

I mean, to be fair, Sony doesn't really have its own competitor to Forza Horizon.

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/rumor-another-big-xbox-game-is-heading-to-ps5-to-be-announced-next-week

 

So, apparently it's not Horizon 5 that's to be announced next week. Jez also seems to be confident it won't be Starfield either, at least for this year.

 

Ori, Rare Replay, Hellblade, Gears, Flight Simulator. ..? I see Killer Instinct as still the main name getting dropped. 

Edited August 15 by LongHairedFreakyGuy

[Jason]

12 minutes ago, LongHairedFreakyGuy said:

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/rumor-another-big-xbox-game-is-heading-to-ps5-to-be-announced-next-week

 

So, apparently it's not Horizon 5 that's to be announced next week. Jez also seems to be confident it won't be Starfield either, at least for this year.

 

It's a little weird, there are multiple people (and Jez doesn't dismiss it either) saying FH5 is gonna come at some point. The person who first heavily implied it'd be FH5 is the guy who has been leaking GP releases recently, so not some randomer.

 

So we'll see what it is next week, but it does still sound like Horizon 5 will come one day.

[LongHairedFreakyGuy]

12 hours ago, Jason said:

 

It's a little weird, there are multiple people (and Jez doesn't dismiss it either) saying FH5 is gonna come at some point. The person who first heavily implied it'd be FH5 is the guy who has been leaking GP releases recently, so not some randomer.

 

So we'll see what it is next week, but it does still sound like Horizon 5 will come one day.

 

Not disagreeing with you, but apparently the guy who has a good track record with the Game Pass drops is not do reliable outside of that, so who knows. Part me of believes Horizon 5 would still be too good to be true though. 

 

Was kind of rumoured a few weeks back anyway, but hell yeah, the full Timesplitters trilogy dropping on PSPlus next week is a massive win. Even as someone who owns them already on multiple platforms, there's never not an excuse to play these games, especially if they drop with trophies. For all of you too young to have tried them, you can't go wrong with these games.