Official PS5 Topic

[Jason 19,887]

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/

 

• Mark Cerny is once again the Lead System Architect.
• 8 core AMD 7nm Zen 2 based on third generation Ryzen.
• Ray-tracing support with custom AMD Navi GPU.
• Custom AMD unit for 3D Audio, also aided by ray-tracing, a big upgrade. Hot on the heels of Sony having acquired near-industry-standard AudioKinetic.
• Extremely fast high-end custom SSD storage faster than any solution currently available for PC:
  Spider-Man load times on PS4 Pro: 15 seconds → 0.8 seconds on next-gen PlayStation. That's ~19x faster!
  Huge practical game changer opening up for new design opportunities.
• Technically supports 8K but Cerny demoed Spider-Man load speed improvements on a 4K screen (I would only take this as confirmation of HDMI 2.1).
• New Virtual Reality platform strongly hinted at but also supports current PSVR (meaning millions of VR users 'day one').
• Death Stranding might be a cross-gen title (speculation in article based on Cerny reply).
• Physical Media.
• Backwards Compatible with at least PS4 (relevant for 90+ million users).
• Devkit is with developers and they recently accelerated its deployment.
• Four years in development so far.
• 2020.

 

(summary from Wollan on ResetEra)

 

The load times sound insane.

Edited April 17 by Jason

[MostWantedMVP 8,271]

Ooooooh It's going to be a beast. And backwards compatibility? 

 

[Turan 274]

It ticks all the right boxes. 

 

Now two questions remain: how much and how loud?

[luisniko 7,331]

Extremely high-end custom SSD

When it's broken, you're f*cked. Chances are buying whole new console or their overprice custom SSD, going back to the same Vita MC hole.

 

PS4 compatibility is nice, it makes transition to PS5 while waiting for the actual games from third parties to come out, though it's obviously wiser to wait for the upgraded version.

 

And all I'm hoping for is an option to sacrifice 8K, 4K bs for framerate with in-game options that enhance graphical aspect (shadow density, light quality etc)

[Furry_Monkey 20,518]

4 hours ago, luisniko said:

Extremely high-end custom SSD

When it's broken, you're f*cked. Chances are buying whole new console or their overprice custom SSD, going back to the same Vita MC hole.

 

Actually, replacing an SSD is more costly than replacing a HDD, but in every other way it's exactly the same.  It will (almost definitely) be a case of open lid, unscrew a couple of screws, slide out drive and you're ready for the new one.  Yes, you'll need to format it with encryption for that console, meaning you'll have to download all your digital games again, but you'll lose nothing.  

 

 

Anyway, I'm not planning on breaking mine

[Ivan1997GTA 1,524]

11 hours ago, luisniko said:

PS4 compatibility is nice, it makes transition to PS5 while waiting for the actual games from third parties to come out, though it's obviously wiser to wait for the upgraded version.

 

And all I'm hoping for is an option to sacrifice 8K, 4K bs for framerate with in-game options that enhance graphical aspect (shadow density, light quality etc)

Meanwhile, I'm hoping that the PS5 will be backwards compatible with most, if not all, PS1, PS2 and PS3 games.

Edited April 18 by Ivan1997GTA

[Jason 19,887]

7 hours ago, Furry_Monkey said:

Actually, replacing an SSD is more costly than replacing a HDD, but in every other way it's exactly the same. 

I'm pretty sure that's not what he means. From the article it sounds like the SSD in the PS5 is something that isn't available to consumers at the moment, so if it does break we can't get a 1:1 replacement.

[Baserape 1,551]

Fingers crossed PS5 backwards compatibility will be physical and digital. I fear PSNow will be our only option to play old games.

 

I'd like to see a modular console.   I'm sick of buying revisions or paying for repairs 

[Furry_Monkey 20,518]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

I'm pretty sure that's not what he means. From the article it sounds like the SSD in the PS5 is something that isn't available to consumers at the moment, so if it does break we can't get a 1:1 replacement.

We don't know for sure, so I'll not assume.

[MostWantedMVP 8,271]

I hope we get proper PS1, PS2 and PS3 backwards compatibility. If they start a program like Xbox has with enhanced features (Like RDR in 4K, and the ability to use your discs). That would be the icing on the cake.

[Jason 19,887]

Supposedly reliable sources saying that the next Xbox is more powerful. Oof. Gonna be a spicy contest for next-gen I think, and it'll be a win-win for console gamers. Last gen Xbox shat the bed so hard that Sony just ended up strolling out the gate.

[luisniko 7,331]

If the rumor is true, I think Microsoft is keeping the competition tight. They are going by the way of laptop is selling, which is using spec grading. This way people can just buy suitable to what they need and their budget.

 

It seems Sony will just keep releasing one spec at a time that they will improvise along the years before hitting the Slim and probably also Pro.

[Jason 19,887]

Yea I think multiple console variants is likely. MS just released a discless Xbox One, which I reckon they'll do with the next Xbox. We might see something like a discless version, base version and an X version for the next Xbox at launch. Microsoft are also heavily involved in cloud gaming and have their own service to rival Google's, so we might even see a much cheaper online only Xbox that uses the cloud to boost the visual quality.

[Blendi- 178]

Better than PS4 and seeing some leaks saying its gonna be 8K makes me laugh so hard thats straight bs.

[GTA3Rockstar 2,709]

20 hours ago, Blendi- said:

Better than PS4 and seeing some leaks saying its gonna be 8K makes me laugh so hard thats straight bs.

 

The only thing possible would be video display. Games? Not gonna happen for next gen. lol We're barely getting 4k

[Mr. Scratch 11,075]

4K at 60fps if anything. Alright, alright, at least 30.

[TheSantader25 5,832]

I don't give a f*ck about 8K or even 4K. Just give me PS2/PS3/PS4 backward compatibility and 1080p/60FPS.

[Jason 19,887]

60fps should really be the standard but developers should be giving players the choice between 30fps with better visuals and 60fps.

[el carlitos 1,992]

On 4/22/2019 at 7:25 PM, Jason said:

60fps should really be the standard but developers should be giving players the choice between 30fps with better visuals and 60fps.

For the next generation we should really expect 60fps as standard with much better visuals and 4K resolution.

The power of NG should allow it. 

Finally I will experience 4K. I got the 4K TV 2 years ago. It´s time. 

Edited April 26 by el carlitos

[Zello 10,647]

I want real Backwards compatibility and not through PSnow.

[el carlitos 1,992]

No PS5 in next 12 months. Well this was expectable.

 

Edited April 26 by el carlitos

[Jason 19,887]

Yea that's fall 2020 confirmed then.

[EVOLUT7ON 12,692]

https://www.videogamer.com/news/ps5-is-packing-some-special-sauce-says-amd-boss

yh, not sooner than April 2020.

[DEALUX 2,364]

On 4/16/2019 at 4:53 PM, Jason said:

• Extremely fast high-end custom SSD storage faster than any solution currently available for PC:

That's retarded. Did they really say that? I doubt very much that they'll put any M.2 drive in a console that's meant to be at least somewhat affordable. I bet it'll be a SATA3 drive.

 

8K support is just as far as the HDMI spec goes. The Xbox One X already supported HDMI 2.1 and 8K in theory via a software update. Games won't run in that res though. Even PCs struggle at 4K.

[RonaldDaniels 1]

What about more cloud storage? It actually needed when you have different kinds of video game in your account.

[luisniko 7,331]

6 hours ago, RonaldDaniels said:

What about more cloud storage? It actually needed when you have different kinds of video game in your account.

I'm more like what about USB port to store save data. 

[MostWantedMVP 8,271]

My wishlist

 

- Faster loading times

- 4K DVR

- Backwards compatibility with discs

- Enhanced PS2 and PS3 games

[HaRdSTyLe_83 5,108]

 

On 5/7/2019 at 10:45 AM, DEALUX said:

That's retarded. Did they really say that? I doubt very much that they'll put any M.2 drive in a console that's meant to be at least somewhat affordable. I bet it'll be a SATA3 drive.

 

nothing new there, they always say that they will be faster then the current technology. im having a laugh reading some stuff like having an SSD will be a game changer.... what's next? the human eye can now see 60fps after all ?

 

[Static 5,580]

On 5/7/2019 at 5:45 AM, DEALUX said:

That's retarded. Did they really say that? I doubt very much that they'll put any M.2 drive in a console that's meant to be at least somewhat affordable. I bet it'll be a SATA3 drive.

just to go further, bet it's a sata m.2 drive and since theyre using AMD chips, whatever x570 board they use will support pcie 4.0. Literally the only way it could be considered faster than current PC tech. But by the time the PS5 comes out, pcie 4.0 will already be the new standard on PCs

[el carlitos 1,992]

When you expect official announcment?

It will not be at the E3 (11.June - 14.June). It´s quite sure it will be this year. So do you expect it before or after E3?