How to paint it black?

[Bakkerbaard]

Okay, so, I keep reading that Paint It Black is really powerful and the occasional arguement, not adressed to me yet, that "yer doin' it wrong!"

What I see when I turn it on is what I think is a basic Dead Eye function that should have been in there without the cards anyway. Let's skip over my grievances with cards and my inability to activate Dead Eye in a timely manner, because I feel I am missing out on something.

 

How do I Pain It Black, exactly? What do you do different from turning on Dead Eye and clumsily painting targets?

[Cratoz]

You aim for the head, quickly activate it, which removes the bloom from the weapon, before your enemy gets marked.

It's almost guarantee headshot without waiting for the circle.

 

It requires a bit of practice but once mastered this ability card is quiet overpowered.

 

Edit: I wanted to post this here in B&M, but in this video I use Paint it Black 3 and kill a few people with it so you can see how it looks like.

 

Edited April 1, 2019 by Cratoz

[Dr.Rosenthal]

@Cratoz Question: Does it mark targets automatically when you move the reticule across them or do you do it manually?

[Cratoz]

6 minutes ago, Dr.Rosenthal said:

@Cratoz Question: Does it mark targets automatically when you move the reticule across them or do you do it manually?

It marks them automatically. There is a small delay for the first mark after you activated dead eye which gives you some moments to headshot people.

 

[Dr.Rosenthal]

@Cratoz Ok, nice. I’m thinking about getting PIB as a counter to Slippery Bastard, so it should work pretty well then..

[Cratoz]

1 minute ago, Dr.Rosenthal said:

@Cratoz Ok, nice. I’m thinking about getting PIB as a counter to Slippery Bastard, so it should work pretty well then..

Yep! I have yet to try that out too, I originally planned to test that in Spoils of War.. but I just can't be arsed with regular showdown.. meeh

[raysis]

15 minutes ago, Cratoz said:

It marks them automatically. There is a small delay for the first mark after you activated dead eye which gives you some moments to headshot people.

 

So you just activate deadeye and then you get little help for aiming at the head? I havent understand this excactly, i aim for their head without deadeye and have never used it, would like to try it out next time im doing showdown.

But i want to get it right. 

Edited April 1, 2019 by raysis

[Daleificent]

This is all handy info.

 

And honestly, learned a lot and will be switching over to PiB.

 

But... I am disappointed no one said, "Well, first you need a red door."

[Cratoz]

1 hour ago, raysis said:

So you just activate deadeye and then you get little help for aiming at the head? I havent understand this excactly, i aim for their head without deadeye and have never used it, would like to try it out next time im doing showdown.

But i want to get it right. 

 

 

You still have to aim manually for the head, when you have you activate dead eye and quickly shoot.

It has to be one motion so to say and it may takes some practice to make it really fluent, but it's really effective.

 

It's so good because this will eliminate all bullet spread and you will hit exactly where the center of your crosshair aims at.

[Failed Again]

I play on the vanilla xbox 1(not x1x)

I find auto aim is really slow for me.i'm at lvl 104

in free roam and story missions aiming seems fine

BUT in showdowns and PvP

aim is really bad..I can say Its not caused by player with slippery B..that is obvious when used.

 

Could it be lag or just really reduce frame rate on my console.

I was born shorty after ww2 so I have lag..

 

to explain more on bad aim,It Just doesn't snap to target like in other modes(it will be way over the head of off to their sides)

 

I should add, I use PiB with eye for eye, winning streak and strange medicine

Edited April 1, 2019 by Failed Again

[Bakkerbaard]

6 hours ago, Cratoz said:

in this video I use Paint it Black 3 and kill a few people with it so you can see how it looks like.

That's defenitely some beyond-my-level sh*t.

 

Anyway, from what I gather it's just what basic Dead Eye should be, but with a card. And I'm gonna have to learn to use it.

Online.

Against people who shoot back.

Dammit.

1 hour ago, Failed Again said:

I was born shorty after ww2 so I have lag..

Might be a case, for both of us, that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. 

A little more for you though. ;o)

 

Honestly, I don't know about Xboxing and I've got a PS4 Pro doing the work for me, but when I tried out target racing I found that the narrow lock-on mode it's limited to really screws with my aim either way. I don't get the humongous snap-to I have with my wide aim, but there's something wonky about it when I try to freehand it onto a target.

You might wanna try changing the lock-on settings, if you don't feel that's gonna make it all too easy.

[ALifeOfMisery]

1 minute ago, Bakkerbaard said:

That's defenitely some beyond-my-level sh*t.

 

Anyway, from what I gather it's just what basic Dead Eye should be, but with a card. And I'm gonna have to learn to use it.

Online.

Against people who shoot back.

Dammit.

I'm also completely incapable of taking PIB to a level where I can hold my own against a good PvP player.

 

But, I balance this out by going for a combination of distance, Springfield and express explosive ammo. It seems to do the trick on the few occasions I've had to use it.

[Bakkerbaard]

4 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

Springfield

Yeah, now that you mention it. I'm all about the Bolt action, but I get the impression that the Springfield is the preferred rifle after all. What's with that?

[ALifeOfMisery]

Just now, Bakkerbaard said:

Yeah, now that you mention it. I'm all about the Bolt action, but I get the impression that the Springfield is the preferred rifle after all. What's with that?

I prefer Bolt Action for hunting, to me it seems slightly quicker when firing multiple shots, so when I see 3 deers that cumulative 1 or 2 seconds saved helps down them all close enough to each other that none despawn.

 

When it comes to another player the Springfield seems to pack a slightly harder punch, which is preferable when I want to put them down in one hit, and that's ultimately what I'm aiming for when using PIB with explosive ammo.

[CrimsonFolo]

Another thing tae mention is that with this ye can dive, paint their head and as soon as your person gets up, they will fire straight away.

[Van_Hellsing]

At lower tiers, PIB eats up your deadeye fast. The unblinking eye gives ye 10 seconds of extra deid eye. 

 

Worth mentioning, PIB will make completely rusted guns shoot perfectly straight. The range of weapons is not increased. ye can not paint targets through a scope. 

Edited April 1, 2019 by Van_Hellsing

[SuperJude™]

Really wish we could just manually paint. It always fails to "catch" even when I've absolutely panned across the intended target.

 

 

[Dr.Rosenthal]

I got PIB last night, because I figure this is a good time to level it up to Tier 3 quickly. I got most, if not all, of the other cards that I want, except the ones I might need if I want to make a Melee Build.

 

I’ve been using Slow and Steady and quite like it, even though I’ve heard it’s been nerfed apparently?

 

Anyway. I tred PIB last night but don’t really enjoy using it yet. I’ll probably only enable it when I come across someone who’s abusing Slippery Bastard. But I’m going to have to play a few Showdown Matches with PIB to figure out how to use it properly. I prefer aiming myself, the automatic targeting of PIB feels off somehow...

[SuperJude™]

It's really useful on horseback once you get the hang of it. I use this OFTEN in Story Missions.

 

[imburgundy]

I use PIB exclusively for a number of reason and I am never using anything else. Main reason being that I absolutely love to dual wielding my Schofields and PIB helps with that since even with revolvers in perfect condition they still are not the most accurate. It's also hugely satisfying dropping multiple enemies before they even know you're there. For hunting it comes in handy when you come across groups of exotic birds on the ground. Just PIB with the varmint rifle but this will take practice and patience but when you get better with it you can drop 3 or 4 birds before they even take off. Manual painting would be more ideal for hunting because I've ruined a number of 3 star pelts because the PIB marked a quick 2nd shot.

 

I wouldn't recommend PIB if you're only focused on pvp. It's not quick enough and against any one with skill you'd be dead before it paints your target but I don't get into pvp battles anymore so that's why I gave up on Slippery Bastard because there is no other reason to use it. I'm also complete garbage at free aim so there's that too

[5.7]

26 minutes ago, imburgundy said:

I use PIB exclusively for a number of reason and I am never using anything else. Main reason being that I absolutely love to dual wielding my Schofields and PIB helps with that since even with revolvers in perfect condition they still are not the most accurate. It's also hugely satisfying dropping multiple enemies before they even know you're there. For hunting it comes in handy when you come across groups of exotic birds on the ground. Just PIB with the varmint rifle but this will take practice and patience but when you get better with it you can drop 3 or 4 birds before they even take off. Manual painting would be more ideal for hunting because I've ruined a number of 3 star pelts because the PIB marked a quick 2nd shot.

 

I wouldn't recommend PIB if you're only focused on pvp. It's not quick enough and against any one with skill you'd be dead before it paints your target but I don't get into pvp battles anymore so that's why I gave up on Slippery Bastard because there is no other reason to use it. I'm also complete garbage at free aim so there's that too

Amigo, with pvp you don’t want paint the target. Check @Cratoz post above.

Edited April 3, 2019 by 5.7

[CosmicBuffalo]

Regarding @CratozDoes PIB give a boost without the X marking cause at least half of the video no X is shown on the headshots?  Cause I always thought if you fire too early, youre just firing normal shots, I could be wrong.  

 

Yet when it does paint an X, over half the time, it paints the higher body and not the head, resulting in a least 1 death. 

 

Also, LoL at the painting the first target and then shooting into the roof, a strong case against PIB in the 1st min or so.

Edited April 3, 2019 by GenericGTAO

[Bakkerbaard]

Did a couple of matches today. Toyed with dead eye more than usual... That is, I actually used it. Got my kills up from 2 to 5. 

It's kinda like giving your toddler a watergun when you're cleaning the car, just to give it the idea it helped. But there's progress. Still not enough to trick me into paying for the next tier though.

[Cratoz]

1 hour ago, GenericGTAO said:

Regarding @CratozDoes PIB give a boost without the X marking cause at least half of the video no X is shown on the headshots?  Cause I always thought if you fire too early, youre just firing normal shots, I could be wrong.  

 

Yet when it does paint an X, over half the time, it paints the higher body and not the head, resulting in a least 1 death. 

 

Also, LoL at the painting the first target and then shooting into the roof, a strong case against PIB in the 1st min or so.

 

What makes PIB so good is as soon as you activate you remove the bloom ( the little circle around the center of your crosshair) and wherever your crosshair is you will hit. You can test that out, take a revolver or a shotgun, aim and quickly activate PIB and the circle will disappear and turn your weapon into almost a laser, even shotgun gets an accuracy boost. And this comes in very handy because in most situations in showdown for example you are moving and knowing this trick you can still maintain that accuracy.

 

So basically you auto aim and go for the head as you would normally, but before you shot you activate PIB. All in a matter of a split second as shown in the video.

 

 

If you want to mark the enemy you shouldn't aim for the head straight away, aim at the chest or so, activate PIB and go for the head. It needs some practice because of the small delay and you having to move your crosshair to paint.

But marking people in PvP is not really why people use this card and what makes it so good.

 

And lol, that was my bad I didn't realize till the end that I wasn't high enough and all my bullets hit the roof haha

Edited April 3, 2019 by Cratoz

[Dr.Rosenthal]

Trying to get to know PIB still. The problem I seem to have is that when I activate Dead eye, it marks body shots and it’s difficult to mark the head. You sort of have to ”paint it” for a while and then release the shots.

 

I guess that’s not really a problem for me though, since I’ll use it mainly against Slippery Bastard with shotguns, so I’ll probably go for bodyshots anyway - or any hit will do at close range.

 

@Cratoz I’m so used to Slow and Steady, and get my headshots MUCH faster with that. I auto-aim for the body, click in deadeye, go for a headshot - BOOM - and then click off. It’s much faster to me.. Plus it removes the  bloom immediately as well, when deadeye is activated. And I don’t have to deal with my shots being marked where I don’t want them to be.

Edited April 4, 2019 by Dr.Rosenthal

[Cratoz]

6 hours ago, Dr.Rosenthal said:

Trying to get to know PIB still. The problem I seem to have is that when I activate Dead eye, it marks body shots and it’s difficult to mark the head. You sort of have to ”paint it” for a while and then release the shots.

 

I guess that’s not really a problem for me though, since I’ll use it mainly against Slippery Bastard with shotguns, so I’ll probably go for bodyshots anyway - or any hit will do at close range.

 

@Cratoz I’m so used to Slow and Steady, and get my headshots MUCH faster with that. I auto-aim for the body, click in deadeye, go for a headshot - BOOM - and then click off. It’s much faster to me.. Plus it removes the  bloom immediately as well, when deadeye is activated. And I don’t have to deal with my shots being marked where I don’t want them to be.

 

 

You don't mark the head (or anything at all), you use the little window before it marks to give your weapons an accuracy boost

 

 

Edit: just tested it, Slow and Steady doesn't seem to remove the bloom.

 

Okay, I tested it out on a swarm of birds and bloom is definitely there with SnS just as without Dead Eye

Edited April 4, 2019 by Cratoz

[Chrismads]

Bloom or no bloom. You still have to land 2 headshots on a S&S user before he lands 1 on you.

PIB is usefull for hunting, ex/ex and if you're messing around with a bow for fun. That's it. Imo

 

Edited April 4, 2019 by Chrismads

[Cratoz]

10 minutes ago, Chrismads said:

Bloom or no bloom. You still have to land 2 headshots on a S&S user before he lands 1 on you.

PIB is usefull for hunting, ex/ex and if you're messing around with a bow for fun. That's it. Imo

 

 

That's why there is Never without One.

But you have the added bonus of more accuracy and will basically (if you mastered it) never miss a shot, especially on a SnS who can't even move fast while you can without having bloom. PIB is not without reason the current Meta in PvP

You don't wait to mark enemies, you literally don't have to wait any longer to get headshots.

It makes all the difference.

 

A little comparison

 

Edited April 4, 2019 by Cratoz

[Chrismads]

11 minutes ago, Cratoz said:

 

That's why there is Never without one.

I was gonna include: 

 

21 minutes ago, Chrismads said:

You still have to land 2 headshots on a S&S user before he lands 1 on you.

... or 3 vs 2 with Never without one...

 

But thought that, that was pretty obvious to everyone.

 

 

[Cratoz]

2 minutes ago, Chrismads said:

I was gonna include: 

 

... or 3 vs 2 with Never without one...

 

But thought that, that was pretty obvious to everyone.

 

 

 

Yeah, but as I said, given all factors that come into play as well a good PIB user has better chances to come out on top, especially after the SnS nerf. We cannot look at headshots alone in an isolated situation.