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Nik0 Bellic

Why people keep sayin gta 4 is better than gta5?

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Jethrome

i like that u can pick up botle and throw at lady

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i removed the lol

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Nappy

^wtf

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ROCKSTAR MANIC
48 minutes ago, Payne said:

^wtf

He aint wrong, you could throw the trash people that litter on the streets of LC back at them, yes even the ladies.

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Nappy

no you cant

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billiejoearmstrong8
7 minutes ago, Payne said:

no you cant

You can pick up small objects (including trash that people drop) and throw them at people in GTA IV. So yes you can indeed pick up bottle and throw at lady 😛. And that could be a reason for saying IV is better than V lol

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Nappy

nah, you all are either lying or never played gta IV. there is no option for that

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billiejoearmstrong8
4 minutes ago, Payne said:

nah, you all are either lying or never played gta IV. there is no option for that

Can't tell if kidding or not lol

 

Either way, proof! https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Random_Pickable_Objects

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Nappy

listen sorry i got nothin against you but that site is full of crap

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Nappy

is it a mod or in the original game?

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billiejoearmstrong8

Lmao. Turn the game on and try it yourself. Stand over an object and press LB or the equivalent. Although I know you may be joking 😛

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Nappy

sorry for taking your time i wasn’t joking. Nothing happens btw, LB isn’t working

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billiejoearmstrong8
1 hour ago, Payne said:

sorry for taking your time i wasn’t joking. Nothing happens btw, LB isn’t working

Really? It's awesome, you can knock stuff out of people's hands or find stuff around and throw it. It doesn't work with every object, you have to find ones it'll work on. Some stuff you can knock out of people's hands that you can then stand over and press LB to pick up are: phones, police walkie talkies, coffee cups, burgers, hotdogs, nuts, cameras, cigarettes. Then aim and throw like a grenade. Also certain bricks (mostly in crappy side areas like on beaches or by the side of highways or on piles of trash etc), cans, all kinds of food and containers and condiment bottles from fast food places, the diner and food carts, and random things like dildos from the shelf opposite the stairs when you enter a sex shop, computer mice from the internet cafes, cheese off a table or pool balls from PBX's apartment after a game etc. You can pick up glasses and bottles in bars/restaurants and throw them but they just smash and don't hurt or annoy people. All the other objects do hurt people can can cause a fight or wanted level.

 

Sometimes it won't work because there's taxis nearby and Niko will whistle for that instead since it's the same button. And sometimes it'll just be something that can't be picked up. You should try it though, nothing better than starting a huge rampage by throwing hotdogs at cops or knocking a cigarette out of someone's hand and throwing it back at them. You can also cause petrol pumps and gas cannisters to explode by throwing objects at them, or even hurt/kill yourself by throwing a brick in the air and moving so it hits you in the head on the way down. And you can pick up a grenade after you've dropped it on the floor and throw it (very high risk of death unless you're quick though).

 

It's never really useful in missions but this one has a tutorial on it:

 

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Nappy

Idk man it looks like video is fake something. I’m a gta IV boy IV life no way i could miss that. 

4 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

And that could be a reason for saying IV is better than V lol

btw what’s this supposed to mean?

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El Penguin Bobo

@Payne lol, keep this up, you're the one funny troll I found on here. 🤣

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Nappy
1 hour ago, Payne said:

Idk man it looks like video is fake something

i’ve gone too far with this but idk why people think i’m a troll for misunderstanding something. I did troll in the past but that sh*t is done.

 

thing is, when it’s a game i play four hours a day then someone says “it was always there you didn’t know” i f*ckin hate that sh*t.

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billiejoearmstrong8
3 hours ago, Payne said:

Idk man it looks like video is fake something. I’m a gta IV boy IV life no way i could miss that. 

btw what’s this supposed to mean?

Goddamn you I typed all that for nothing :lol: 

 

I mean that someone might consider being able to pick up and throw objects to be the reason people say GTA IV is better than GTA V

2 hours ago, Payne said:

i’ve gone too far with this but idk why people think i’m a troll for misunderstanding something. I did troll in the past but that sh*t is done.

 

thing is, when it’s a game i play four hours a day then someone says “it was always there you didn’t know” i f*ckin hate that sh*t.

The first person mistook your wtf for not knowing about picking up stuff, and then you continued acting like you didn't know about it, so people told you about it, that's all.

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Nappy

i appreciate your work bill really. i never meant to call you guys liars, sorry for that. I guess sometimes we gotta believe things even if there’s no proof.

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TheJesus1996

@Payne go back to the salt mines

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Nappy

bitch

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TheJesus1996
3 minutes ago, Payne said:

bitch

Detain this man!

 

Anyway, well for me the physics and other small features is what makes the game superior, story and characters is subjective even though I prefer IV.

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Nappy

you f*ckin rat i knew you didn’t have the balls for this, for the record! i’m a patriot, i love my cock!

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it’s “knew”, not know, bitch
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The Wolf Man

I honestly don't know.

 

Many people praise GTA IV for its story, setting and more serious approach. I was impressed with all of this when I first played, but then I saw what R* did in RDR and RDR2 and now GTA IV is... not that impressive anymore. Niko Bellic and his drama is just plain ridiculous when he is put next to John Marston or Arthur Morgan. In other words, GTA 4 was great back in 2008, but it didn't age well, not for me at least.

 

GTA 5 made the intelligent decision of not taking itself so seriously. The plot is cliche and predictable, but it is fun and still works for me.

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billiejoearmstrong8
On 2/4/2020 at 3:23 AM, The Wolf Man said:

 

 

GTA 5 made the intelligent decision of not taking itself so seriously. The plot is cliche and predictable, but it is fun and still works for me.

It didn't though. It often tries to be serious in the same ways as GTA IV, serious moments between the characters, "deep" speeches, emotional scenes to make you understand and care about the characters personally, attempts at serious satire about torture etc. Still taking itself much more seriously than any 3D era game. Along with humour and more over the top stuff.

 

Problem with V is instead of being a good mix, the seriousness and humour/over the top stuff don't gel together so well, mostly because the humour is often dumbed down to the point of being stupid and the over the top stuff makes it more like a flashy action movie than a cool crime movie. This clashes with when it tries to be deep or gritty. San Andreas would be an example of a game that doesn't take itself too seriously, and it works because it goes all in with it. But V tried to be both things at once. I enjoy elements of the more serious parts and the more lighthearted parts and like the game overall, but the mishmash of the two things is jarring. 

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Nappy

What bill tries to say is V sucks

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billiejoearmstrong8

Nah I honestly really like it. It was my favourite game of all time before I played IV. IV just showed me its flaws. All I'm saying here is that the tone isn't very cohesive. They didn't tie the serious aspects and the lighthearted aspects together very well and they clash with each other. 

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Nappy
3 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

Yeah V totally sucks, f*ck rockstar games.

Ok we got it chill out.

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The Wolf Man

You have the right to dislike GTA V. But criticizing V won't make GTA IV a better game. It still is inferior to the Red Dead Redemption games and maybe even ridiculous when compared to both of them (in terms of storytelling of course). 

 

I think GTA 5 wasn't serious at all, much less "deep" or emotional. It's pretty much a B Hollywood movie. The whole idea of the story is "don't think too much, just enjoy". It's full of over the top moments and jokes. 

 

Ir's better to be a good to average B movie than trying to be the next Godfather and then failing miserably.

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billiejoearmstrong8
1 hour ago, The Wolf Man said:

You have the right to dislike GTA V. But criticizing V won't make GTA IV a better game. It still is inferior to the Red Dead Redemption games and maybe even ridiculous when compared to both of them (in terms of storytelling of course). 

 

I think GTA 5 wasn't serious at all, much less "deep" or emotional. It's pretty much a B Hollywood movie. The whole idea of the story is "don't think too much, just enjoy". It's full of over the top moments and jokes. 

 

Ir's better to be a good to average B movie than trying to be the next Godfather and then failing miserably.

What about all the emotional scenes, serious conversations between the characters both in missions and when hanging out, speeches about loyalty and how life is, efforts to show the complexity of the characters, and satire about serious subjects? You think endings A and B are fun times with nothing serious, deep or thoughtful about them? The story is filled with attempts to get serious and dark moments. And the lighthearted to the point of silliness/over the top action movie side of it somewhat clashes with this. I'm not saying the serious parts were bad, I enjoyed when they went there, and I also enjoyed a lot of the humour and action. But they didn't get the balance quite right is all I'm saying, toning down the silliness just a bit would've made everything gel better imo.

 

San Andreas' "serious" moments are very cliched and melodramatic, more part of the parody of early 90s 'hood movies the game had going on than anything meant to genuinely be taken seriously. So they fit in with the lighthearted rest of the game no problem. But when V did serious scenes it was for real. Nothing wrong with that. But fitting the serious and lighthearted together isn't easy. IV by contrast I feel does a better job of integrating seriousness and humour. 

 

Edit: Btw I hope you didn't read my "quote" in Payne's post and think I actually wrote that lmao, I literally stated that I like GTA V in my last post. 

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Nappy

“I miss my family!” , Michael Townley.

 

Emotional? Nope. cannot be when we know they are a bunch of weirdos who’ll probably mess up the next cutscenes they appear.

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