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JustRob

Why do people like LCS and VCS?

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JustRob

I've tried giving these games a chance, multiple times, but I just can't get through it... I don't understand why people like these games so much. I regularly see people asking for these games to be put on the PS4, and I'm just wondering, why? 

 

The main characters are boring. Toni Cipriani is just a pissed off guy with not much personality. He left town for some vague reason which I think we never really learn the details of. Then comes back and even though he was a made man he gets to be the bitch of pretty much everyone. The story is bad. Then there's Victor Vance, who's probably the most unlikely criminal in the entire GTA franchise. This guy was just too goody-two shoes. He gets framed and kicked out of the army by some asshole, then... I don't even know wtf the goal of that story is. I guess you take revenge on him at some point or whatever.

 

The cities... They don't really add much. Compared to GTAIII and Vice City, LCS and VCS add absolutely nothing to the cities. Aside from missions and side missions / objectives, there's absolutely nothing to do in the cities. No minigames, no stores or clothing you can buy. Not much exploration going on. 

 

Why do people like these games so much? The only thing LCS has going for it is that GTAIII's story was probably just as bad, so it might even be slightly better. But VCS doesn't hold a candle to Vice City. 

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xXPinguXx
Posted (edited)

To answer your question, it's because we all have our own opinions on certain games. There's probably going to be a huge flame war that I don't want to be apart of, but let me tell you thing...

1 hour ago, JustRob said:

He left town for some vague reason which I think we never really learn the details of.

If I recall correctly, it's because Toni killed a made man and then had to lay low for a while.

Edited by xXPinguXx

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JustRob

Yeah like I said we never really learn the details. That's what it says on the back of the box. They never seem to care to flesh out his backstory or even his current story. For a handheld GTA it was pretty decent, but for a home console it's a bad game.

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xXPinguXx

Yeah, on the console versions, it has performance issues...

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LorshZontek
43 minutes ago, xXPinguXx said:

Yeah, on the console versions, it has performance issues...

what about the psp versions 

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Zello

Vice City Stories had empire building. It was a combination of Vice City's assets and SA's gang wars and it was awesome.

 

LCS holds a special place in my heart since it was the first GTA story I actually completed and the first GTA that I managed to buy. Before that all I did was play SA at my cousins house and just mess around.

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xXPinguXx
56 minutes ago, LorshZontek said:

what about the psp versions 

No, not really.

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perennial

I don't hold them in as high regard as III/VC/SA, they were simple handheld spin-offs, but I enjoyed them for what they were.

Even though I wasn't a huge fan of Toni Cipriani, I liked how the story in LCS explains how the city ended up in GTA III and also what happened to the Sindacco and Forelli families.

I think VCS had a decent story even though I found Tommy Vercetti a more convincing empire builder. After Vic got kicked out the army he needed to find a new source of income for the his ill brother Pete and also babysit Lance which drove the events.

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Nik0 Bellic

Is this an unfunny joke?

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Nik0 Bellic
7 hours ago, JustRob said:

I've tried giving these games a chance, multiple times, but I just can't get through it... I don't understand why people like these games so much. I regularly see people asking for these games to be put on the PS4, and I'm just wondering, why? 

 

The main characters are boring. Toni Cipriani is just a pissed off guy with not much personality. He left town for some vague reason which I think we never really learn the details of. Then comes back and even though he was a made man he gets to be the bitch of pretty much everyone. The story is bad. Then there's Victor Vance, who's probably the most unlikely criminal in the entire GTA franchise. This guy was just too goody-two shoes. He gets framed and kicked out of the army by some asshole, then... I don't even know wtf the goal of that story is. I guess you take revenge on him at some point or whatever.

 

The cities... They don't really add much. Compared to GTAIII and Vice City, LCS and VCS add absolutely nothing to the cities. Aside from missions and side missions / objectives, there's absolutely nothing to do in the cities. No minigames, no stores or clothing you can buy. Not much exploration going on. 

 

Why do people like these games so much? The only thing LCS has going for it is that GTAIII's story was probably just as bad, so it might even be slightly better. But VCS doesn't hold a candle to Vice City. 

Like your post cuz it was funny this time lol

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Packing_Heat
Posted (edited)

I like both but LCS is the best imo. At the time I also really appreciated their portable nature. Above all I just like them because it's more GTA.

Edited by Packing_Heat

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TheSantader25
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VCS has a lot of good features but LCS is meh. Both are good to pick up if you're fed up with the rest of the series but they can't hold a candle to the main Five(III, VC, SA, IV, V). 

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ChengizVlad09

@JustRob

 

From what you stated it seems that you don't like the 'story' part of those games and that's completely fine. Something can entirely be a masterpiece and people would still find it to be sh*tty and that's fine. 

 

I'm really not sure why you have such a huge problem with those basic premises in regards to story logic and characters, which objectively speaking aren't even close to being game breaking, but subjectively speaking, someone can like them, be totally indifferent or not like it at all.

 

I'm not going full SJW style here and I'm not trying to change your opinion even remotely, but what you clearly stated is that you have problem with the story aspect of those 2 games and I would simply say that's lame when trying to be objective, if that's what you were aiming for. In regards to cities, these were intended to be PSP -handheld platform! - exclusives and I think it's a bit unfair to have complaints in that sense considering the broader picture.

 

I could as well be wrong, but it seems you view these from the lenses of HD Universe games which are heavily impacted by their story aspects, something that luckily wasn't the case back in the day. Just to be clear and to addition to what I was saying above, I find every story line of HD games to be more than good, but completely over the top, since the whole concept of those titles is to tell us a story and way less to let us play the game - Rockstar started charging us additionaly for that.

 

' Empire building ' as a gameplay concept was amazing and despite being in its infancy in VCS, it was still more than anything GTA V as a whole has to offer for example. Never again have we seen something cool like that. Except in GTA 0nline, where they decided to exploit these kind of concepts for implementation of ' grinding ' systems.

 

 

 

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JustRob

The HD games have plenty to offer over LCS and VCS aside from story. In GTAIV there's many side activities you can do and clothes you can buy. In GTAV there's a huge map to explore and stuff like random encounters and many many clothes you can buy. 

 

I don't just like the story of LCS and VCS, I don't like the lack of stuff to do once that story is done. What do you do if you freeroam in those games? What can you do besides drive / run around?

 

Also, it's not true that there was less focus on story back then, both Vice City and San Andreas had amazing intricate stories that served as a red line throughout the games. 

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Syrens

You need to remember LCS was the first GTA to go fully 3D in the portable world.  I remember jailbreaking my PSP back in the day so I could overclock the thing and get more frames in LCS and VCS...ah back in the day.  Now with the power of most cell phones it's a bygone era.  Specially now III,VC,SA are all available on the Play Store / App Store.

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Emmi

Because they are awesome games? Same as GTA Chinatown Wars!

It still bugs me that there never was a GTA San Andreas Stories.

Either way I hope for a similar GTA coming exclusively to the Nintendo Switch.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Emmi said:

Because they are awesome games? Same as GTA Chinatown Wars!

It still bugs me that there never was a GTA San Andreas Stories.

Either way I hope for a similar GTA coming exclusively to the Nintendo Switch.

Probably because there's no way they could fit SA's map on PSP lol

Edited by JustRob

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Timcatgt5

Vice City Stories is one of those games that offered a lot of content, but it didn't receive the recognition it deserved. 

 

While it returned to Vice City during the 1980s, the story was mediocre at best, even though it introduced some familiar faces from future GTA games, like Phil Cassidy, Lance Vance and Ricardo Diaz.

 

A big problem was that it had a few performance issues for the PSP and PS2, a bad glitch that can remove a car from your garage, the console port didn't solve these problems, but added a few things, like a new side mission, extra stunt jumps and a bulletproof Sanchez to buy outside your apartment. 

 

It was only released on 2 platforms, and Sony made sure it was available only on PS2 and PSP. 

 

Other than that, it's a good game. It had lots of side missions and available content, empire building, and you can play it on the go if you had the PSP version. 

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