JustRob Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I've tried giving these games a chance, multiple times, but I just can't get through it... I don't understand why people like these games so much. I regularly see people asking for these games to be put on the PS4, and I'm just wondering, why? The main characters are boring. Toni Cipriani is just a pissed off guy with not much personality. He left town for some vague reason which I think we never really learn the details of. Then comes back and even though he was a made man he gets to be the bitch of pretty much everyone. The story is bad. Then there's Victor Vance, who's probably the most unlikely criminal in the entire GTA franchise. This guy was just too goody-two shoes. He gets framed and kicked out of the army by some asshole, then... I don't even know wtf the goal of that story is. I guess you take revenge on him at some point or whatever. The cities... They don't really add much. Compared to GTAIII and Vice City, LCS and VCS add absolutely nothing to the cities. Aside from missions and side missions / objectives, there's absolutely nothing to do in the cities. No minigames, no stores or clothing you can buy. Not much exploration going on. Why do people like these games so much? The only thing LCS has going for it is that GTAIII's story was probably just as bad, so it might even be slightly better. But VCS doesn't hold a candle to Vice City. Nik0 Bellic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Penguin Bobo Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) To answer your question, it's because we all have our own opinions on certain games. There's probably going to be a huge flame war that I don't want to be apart of, but let me tell you thing... 1 hour ago, JustRob said: He left town for some vague reason which I think we never really learn the details of. If I recall correctly, it's because Toni killed a made man and then had to lay low for a while. Edited March 8, 2019 by xXPinguXx Bratva Assassin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustRob Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yeah like I said we never really learn the details. That's what it says on the back of the box. They never seem to care to flesh out his backstory or even his current story. For a handheld GTA it was pretty decent, but for a home console it's a bad game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Penguin Bobo Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yeah, on the console versions, it has performance issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorshZontek Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 43 minutes ago, xXPinguXx said: Yeah, on the console versions, it has performance issues... what about the psp versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Vice City Stories had empire building. It was a combination of Vice City's assets and SA's gang wars and it was awesome. LCS holds a special place in my heart since it was the first GTA story I actually completed and the first GTA that I managed to buy. Before that all I did was play SA at my cousins house and just mess around. LorshZontek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Penguin Bobo Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 56 minutes ago, LorshZontek said: what about the psp versions No, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
god speed Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I don't hold them in as high regard as III/VC/SA, they were simple handheld spin-offs, but I enjoyed them for what they were. Even though I wasn't a huge fan of Toni Cipriani, I liked how the story in LCS explains how the city ended up in GTA III and also what happened to the Sindacco and Forelli families. I think VCS had a decent story even though I found Tommy Vercetti a more convincing empire builder. After Vic got kicked out the army he needed to find a new source of income for the his ill brother Pete and also babysit Lance which drove the events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik0 Bellic Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Is this an unfunny joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik0 Bellic Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 hours ago, JustRob said: I've tried giving these games a chance, multiple times, but I just can't get through it... I don't understand why people like these games so much. I regularly see people asking for these games to be put on the PS4, and I'm just wondering, why? The main characters are boring. Toni Cipriani is just a pissed off guy with not much personality. He left town for some vague reason which I think we never really learn the details of. Then comes back and even though he was a made man he gets to be the bitch of pretty much everyone. The story is bad. Then there's Victor Vance, who's probably the most unlikely criminal in the entire GTA franchise. This guy was just too goody-two shoes. He gets framed and kicked out of the army by some asshole, then... I don't even know wtf the goal of that story is. I guess you take revenge on him at some point or whatever. The cities... They don't really add much. Compared to GTAIII and Vice City, LCS and VCS add absolutely nothing to the cities. Aside from missions and side missions / objectives, there's absolutely nothing to do in the cities. No minigames, no stores or clothing you can buy. Not much exploration going on. Why do people like these games so much? The only thing LCS has going for it is that GTAIII's story was probably just as bad, so it might even be slightly better. But VCS doesn't hold a candle to Vice City. Like your post cuz it was funny this time lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packing_Heat Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) I like both but LCS is the best imo. At the time I also really appreciated their portable nature. Above all I just like them because it's more GTA. Edited March 8, 2019 by Packing_Heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSantader25 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) VCS has a lot of good features but LCS is meh. Both are good to pick up if you're fed up with the rest of the series but they can't hold a candle to the main Five(III, VC, SA, IV, V). Edited March 8, 2019 by TheSantader25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChengizVlad09 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 @JustRob From what you stated it seems that you don't like the 'story' part of those games and that's completely fine. Something can entirely be a masterpiece and people would still find it to be sh*tty and that's fine. I'm really not sure why you have such a huge problem with those basic premises in regards to story logic and characters, which objectively speaking aren't even close to being game breaking, but subjectively speaking, someone can like them, be totally indifferent or not like it at all. I'm not going full SJW style here and I'm not trying to change your opinion even remotely, but what you clearly stated is that you have problem with the story aspect of those 2 games and I would simply say that's lame when trying to be objective, if that's what you were aiming for. In regards to cities, these were intended to be PSP -handheld platform! - exclusives and I think it's a bit unfair to have complaints in that sense considering the broader picture. I could as well be wrong, but it seems you view these from the lenses of HD Universe games which are heavily impacted by their story aspects, something that luckily wasn't the case back in the day. Just to be clear and to addition to what I was saying above, I find every story line of HD games to be more than good, but completely over the top, since the whole concept of those titles is to tell us a story and way less to let us play the game - Rockstar started charging us additionaly for that. ' Empire building ' as a gameplay concept was amazing and despite being in its infancy in VCS, it was still more than anything GTA V as a whole has to offer for example. Never again have we seen something cool like that. Except in GTA 0nline, where they decided to exploit these kind of concepts for implementation of ' grinding ' systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustRob Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 The HD games have plenty to offer over LCS and VCS aside from story. In GTAIV there's many side activities you can do and clothes you can buy. In GTAV there's a huge map to explore and stuff like random encounters and many many clothes you can buy. I don't just like the story of LCS and VCS, I don't like the lack of stuff to do once that story is done. What do you do if you freeroam in those games? What can you do besides drive / run around? Also, it's not true that there was less focus on story back then, both Vice City and San Andreas had amazing intricate stories that served as a red line throughout the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrens Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 You need to remember LCS was the first GTA to go fully 3D in the portable world. I remember jailbreaking my PSP back in the day so I could overclock the thing and get more frames in LCS and VCS...ah back in the day. Now with the power of most cell phones it's a bygone era. Specially now III,VC,SA are all available on the Play Store / App Store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmi Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Because they are awesome games? Same as GTA Chinatown Wars! It still bugs me that there never was a GTA San Andreas Stories. Either way I hope for a similar GTA coming exclusively to the Nintendo Switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustRob Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Emmi said: Because they are awesome games? Same as GTA Chinatown Wars! It still bugs me that there never was a GTA San Andreas Stories. Either way I hope for a similar GTA coming exclusively to the Nintendo Switch. Probably because there's no way they could fit SA's map on PSP lol Edited March 8, 2019 by JustRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timcatgt5 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Vice City Stories is one of those games that offered a lot of content, but it didn't receive the recognition it deserved. While it returned to Vice City during the 1980s, the story was mediocre at best, even though it introduced some familiar faces from future GTA games, like Phil Cassidy, Lance Vance and Ricardo Diaz. A big problem was that it had a few performance issues for the PSP and PS2, a bad glitch that can remove a car from your garage, the console port didn't solve these problems, but added a few things, like a new side mission, extra stunt jumps and a bulletproof Sanchez to buy outside your apartment. It was only released on 2 platforms, and Sony made sure it was available only on PS2 and PSP. Other than that, it's a good game. It had lots of side missions and available content, empire building, and you can play it on the go if you had the PSP version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I could never warm to LCS for some reason. I love a good mafia story, but Toni's a fairly mediocre protagonist and all the grit and edge from GTA III is gone. VCS fairs a bit better. Though I don't care for Vic too much I like the empire building. However in saying that they're probably the two GTAs I've spent the least time playing. Not bad, but not great either. TheSantader25 and iiCriminnaaL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Male01 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I prefer VCS over VC because the 80s atmosphere is improved along with several gameplay features. Radio stations have co-host, Lazlow is a co-host while we get an actual host, and the song choices are better to the point where they make GTA VC look like it simply painted things blue and pink just to call it an 80s game. VCS has far more neon lights and also a functional ferris wheel instead of the construction site used in one of the hardest missions of the series. The immersion into the 80s setting is improved by countless things including ads, which now talk about toys instead of taxidermy. Biker cops and some amount of swimming have been added to this game. For the only time in the series, you can use helicopters to rescue people and extinguish fires. Beach Patrol missions vary as one of three things and all side missions have checkpoints. Vehicles have more spawn points and sports cars are not present in exaggerated amounts. Empire Building missions are really fun. More diversity is added with things like the Trailer Park Mafia. Some vehicles from SA have been added alongside new unique vehicles. Vice City is also filled with much-needed shortcuts for places such as the airport. I don't know much about LCS except for it having bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Femme Fatale Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 They're fun to play when you're on the go imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejoearmstrong8 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) When they came out I liked them because I could sit playing them anywhere on a PSP. This was a huge thing, can't compare it with playing them on a console (where they look bad since the graphics were designed for a tiny screen) later. They're not of the same quality as the main games but they're some fun bonus GTA to play, you get to revisit the cities and play some new stories with new missions and features. Edited March 24, 2019 by billiejoearmstrong8 TheSantader25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
