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AnimalFather

Picking up prostitutes will most definitely not be in GTA6

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AnimalFather

due to the political (fascist) climate. What else will be cut?

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Satire  

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Zello

Who else but Animalfather?

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LorshZontek

Rockstar are not one to back down like that, but who knows 

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TheSantader25

The ability to shoot people. 

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Aquamaniac
Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, AnimalFather said:

due to the political (fascist) climate. What else will be cut?

After the car attacks in France and various other countries the entire game concept might be considered offensive (even more as before). Does France and UK ban games? Germany and Australia do.

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Timcatgt5

Bully 2 might as well not be released at the present time, because bullying is a very rare experience in schools, which makes the environment too safe, the suspects can be falsely accused without proof, which makes the situation worse. 

 

Thought crime is something to look out for nowadays. In the future it will be illegal to look at a woman for more than 2 seconds. 

 

If I get a wanted level in GTA VI because I stood next to someone, I'd be asking questions that have no answers. 

 

Fun games will become the new dinosaurs, and it will be only a matter of time before the Ice Age is due. 

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DexMacLeod

Nah, they just have to make sure they also add male prostitutes/strip clubs and/or a female protagonist and then they'll be touted as champions of equality. 

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Hmmm nice bike
1 hour ago, Timcatgt5 said:

If I get a wanted level in GTA VI because I stood next to someone, I'd be asking questions that have no answers.¬† ÔĽŅ

This already happens in V.

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Yinepi
20 hours ago, LorshZontek said:

Rockstar are not one to back down like that, but who knows 

And yet Houser said they're thankful not to release GTA6 in the current political climate. Hmm. I'd say they already backed down.

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Pete4000uk
4 hours ago, Timcatgt5 said:

In the future it will be illegal to look at a woman for more than 2 seconds.

Watch out for 'Visual Rape'. Coming soon to a SJW/feminist near you

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FadeAway
Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Hmmm nice bike said:

This already happens in V.

Pretty much. You can stand next someone and within seconds they are threatening to call the police or threaten to beat you up if provoked. And this was in 2013 where pretty much most memes surrounding politics and society were there. Off the wall humor was pretty much there.

 

Basically, GTA was a parody of life. Right now life is a parody of GTA.

 

GTA was among the popular list of games of controversy and reform since lll I think, as well as other games. V was released in 2013, not really too long ago. But good lawd, things seem to just have advanced since then where the franchise can't keep up. Ya, I'm posting what most already know anyway.

 

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HOW'S ANNIE?
9 hours ago, Yinepi said:

And yet Houser said they're thankful not to release GTA6 in the current political climate. Hmm. I'd say they already backed down.

That comment was more so a PR move to basically say "GTA VI isn't around the corner so stop asking about it". Especially since they didn't want to take the limelight off RDR 2/RDR Online one month short of release.

 

If anything I can be assured that Rockstar will yet again push the boundaries. GTA is built on being politically incorrect and controversial. The Housers aren't stupid.

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Zello
Posted (edited)

What if it's like a Medieval game or something when Prostitution was legal and you could go to the brothel for a great night of whoring. There'd be no guns and cars so no need to worry about getting in trouble for running over people or shooting up a place.

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billiejoearmstrong8
Posted (edited)

Honestly starting in GTA IV and especially in GTA V they started going down the route of not just showing getting hookers as another thing to do, but instead showing the guy doing it as sad/desperate, and the prostitutes as more rounded people with personalities and lives and reasons for doing it. It's more realistic and as a side effect more PC because it shows men using prostitutes in a more negative light and the women as more than just objects. I think as long as it's there in a realism way (where it's acknowledged as another bad thing your criminal character does along with killing and crime etc) and not a "getting hookers is cool" way it could still be included.

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Hmmm nice bike
Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, FadeAway said:

GTA was among the popular list of games of controversy and reform since lll I think, as well as other games. V was released in 2013, not really too long ago. But good lawd, things seem to just have advanced since then where the franchise can't keep up.

This is why I think they need to set the next GTA in a different time period. Enough with the games set in modern day, because clearly, any references or jokes made about things happening nowadays will be outdated by the time the game is out (especially since you know it'll probably be delayed by about a year, this is Rockstar we're talking about). I think the early or mid 2000s would be an interesting time period if they wanted to go for something different (and we're even further away from 2002 than VC and SA were from their years).

 

2002 or 2006 would be idea years, especially if the next game is in Vice City. They'd both mark the years that the previous games in VC were released, and the game itself would have a sort-of modern flair to it while still being vintage and having a lot of nostalgia and stuff that they can easily parody from that time period without having to keep up with what's happening nowadays.

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universetwisters

They should go back to making games that aren't a political soapbox just saying

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DexMacLeod

I don't really think that the political stuff is ever really that big of a deal in GTA games. Usually it's tucked away in the background on the talk radio stations and campaign commercials. Sort of the way politics are for a lot of people in the real world.

 

It certainly isn't worth running away from and setting the game in the past does nothing to solve the "problem" of their satire feeling dated. 

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Wolff

Why do you expect that? SJW culture was already pretty present when GTA V came out and they didn't seem to go easy. I don't see why they will suddendly listen to their complaints in the next GTA. I would love a new Manhunt game just to cause huge outrage but I doubt we will see that happen.ūüėā

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The Coconut Kid

I don't understand what brings you to the conclusion prostitutes won't be in GTA6.

 

Sex workers deserve to be safe regardless of the political climate. Excluding them and their experiences from the game would be a very poor reaction to them deciding to speak up.

 

Buying services from hookers in GTA5 was fleshed out a lot better than in previous games (there's a good post about this earlier in the thread). Why shouldn't GTA6 continue this? If the game is set in modern day then an escort service as an app on your phone would be a good feature. The player chooses from a number of independent escorts who "screen" your character (assume the reputation system from GTAO crosses into the next game -- a girl won't see you if you have a bad reputation) and you meet with them for a price. The hookers you pick up on the street might refuse car sex and negotiate with you to drive to a local motel where the deed is done.

 

It's shouldn't be about removing features because topics have become an 'issue', instead these issues should inform how features are improved and how characters are depicted.

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tizerist

The makers of Mortal Kombat recently sold out when they were getting complaints about scantily clad females. Now all the females are like 75% covered. I never thought that they would back down to anybody, but they did. 

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Equatecurl
On 3/7/2019 at 8:00 PM, AnimalFather said:

due to the political (fascist) climate. What else will be cut?

What

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billiejoearmstrong8
6 hours ago, The Coconut Kid said:

I don't understand what brings you to the conclusion prostitutes won't be in GTA6.

 

Sex workers deserve to be safe regardless of the political climate. Excluding them and their experiences from the game would be a very poor reaction to them deciding to speak up.

 

Buying services from hookers in GTA5 was fleshed out a lot better than in previous games (there's a good post about this earlier in the thread). Why shouldn't GTA6 continue this? If the game is set in modern day then an escort service as an app on your phone would be a good feature. The player chooses from a number of independent escorts who "screen" your character (assume the reputation system from GTAO crosses into the next game -- a girl won't see you if you have a bad reputation) and you meet with them for a price. The hookers you pick up on the street might refuse car sex and negotiate with you to drive to a local motel where the deed is done.

 

It's shouldn't be about removing features because topics have become an 'issue', instead these issues should inform how features are improved and how characters are depicted.

Yeah with the direction they've already gone in how prostitution is depicted in the game I don't think it's a "PC police" or feminist issue really, they're already pretty good there.

 

If there's an issue it's with major female characters being nothing more than lazily written stereotypes (eg Amanda or Tracey in V) with not enough effort put into making them interesting and unique characters. In V they tried to make up for it by throwing in a couple of cool seeming female heist crew members but it was pretty lame since they're very minor characters that are barely seen. Hopefully they'll step up and have some good female characters in the game (they've done it before with characters like Elizabeta in IV), written as well as the male characters and neither just basic stereotypes nor just token cool girls. Not for the sake of being PC but for the sake of being a well written game.

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TheSantader25

Tbh Rockstar's weakness in writing female characters isn't just something we see in V. It's apparent in almost all their games. You may find a few of them "kind of good" but overall R* simply sucks at creating female characters. Also they suck at romantic relationships as well. 

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Aquamaniac
4 hours ago, tizerist said:

The makers of Mortal Kombat recently sold out when they were getting complaints about scantily clad females. Now all the females are like 75% covered. I never thought that they would back down to anybody, but they did. 

I haven't thought that political correctness is so epidemic, how many women play Mortal Combat? Where will this end?

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Grotti Vigilante
4 hours ago, Aquamaniac said:

I haven't thought that political correctness is so epidemic, how many women play Mortal Combat? Where will this end?

Surprised you're only just catching on. Often the people who complain most about the portrayal of women in video games don't actually seem to play them. I remember complaints about GTA V's portrayal of women from feminists. Granted, GTA V didn't have the best portrayal of women, but to these people any portrayal of a female character that isn't a totally flawless Mary Sue with no personality is sexist. Wonder Woman got slanted for not having hairy armpits and setting beauty standards they didn't like. Of course they will claim credit if the product does well sometimes. They might like God of War championing fatherhood, but these people have pushed for policies that have resulted in fathers being increasingly pushed out of the household. 

 

7 hours ago, TheSantader25 said:

Tbh Rockstar's weakness in writing female characters isn't just something we see in V. It's apparent in almost all their games. You may find a few of them "kind of good" but overall R* simply sucks at creating female characters.

Even though I agree on this point, some of them are at least written better than some recent female characters in other forms of media. Rey from Star Wars stands out to me as a badly written female character, but there are several others. 

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tizerist
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And an even more extreme example: Germaine Greer, the classic feminist who, since the 60's, has campaigned for womens rights very vocally, got hounded out of college campuses in the UK by SJW females when she stated that men who have 'snip' operations to 'become' women aren't actually real women. Was accused of transphobia by the same females she gave a proper voice to to begin with.

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Ondr4H
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GTA 6 will be rainbow colored game.Only self driving electric vehicles, main protagonost will be gender and race neutral like other things in game.No guns,  only NERF guns without ammunition

And last it will be set probably in California...

Every computer in Europe will must install this game or free mindeds will be punished and send to happy gulags.

Six in name means every new gender built up at release date.

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billiejoearmstrong8
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21 hours ago, tizerist said:

And an even more extreme example: Germaine Greer, the classic feminist who, since the 60's, has campaigned for womens rights very vocally, got hounded out of college campuses in the UK by SJW females when she stated that men who have 'snip' operations to 'become' women aren't actually real women. Was accused of transphobia by the same females she gave a proper voice to to begin with.

Well yeah, being a feminist doesn't give you a free pass on being transphobic. Liberal feminists who support all women including trans women don't tend to get along well with radfems/terfs who exclude trans women and reduce women down to their genitals. Doing some good work for feminism in the past doesn't mean she's beyond criticism, and not all feminists have the same views.

 

Tbh I don't know what that has to do with GTA though. I think the criticisms of female characters in GTA by the media are usually bs, it's usually just about violence against women being portrayed or about there not being many female characters and the ones that are there being prostitutes etc. Violence against women is portrayed because it's a violent game centred on crime, it's in there along with the violence against men, and there's naturally going to be less female characters in a game about organised crime since there's less women in organised crime, and there's going to be women portrayed negatively because it's a game where pretty much everyone is criminal or corrupt and pretty much everyone is portrayed negatively. Only real criticism I have from playing the games is that often the major female characters are unimaginative and poorly written, and I don't think just that badly written aspect is addressed very often. They have written them well on occasion though so they are capable of it, I just hope to see female characters of the same quality as the male ones in the next game.

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