Would R* do a gangbanger again?

[Zello]

From a couple of my old posts. I'd like to see R* return to the gangbanging scene again. Sure we had CJ and Franklin but CJ went on a long journey all over the place and Franklin was in a gang for 5 seconds decides to put that life behind him in order to achieve his lifelong dream of ironing shirts and eating chips all day.

 

I'd like to see a proper gangbanger

 

I can see R* doing it in three ways using The wire as a refence. They could have you as the leader of a small time crew that starts off small and eventually rises to power knocking out all of his rivals in the city. Someone like Marlo Stanfield or a more "Street" version of Tommy V and Vic. 

 

Gang wars, drug shipments, Making/breaking alliances with other gangs.

 

You're the leader now and you call all the shots

 

 

Take the family tree from the Godfather 2 game where you manage your lieutenants and soldiers. Assign them territory or corners. Discipline them if necessary.

 

 

A low level Soldier/drug dealer like Bodie Broadus

 

 

You run a corner selling drugs and also act as muscle for the crew. You're responsible for selling the package that you're given and must also re-up with a supplier when supply is low, Corner wars with other rival drug dealers and making sure your stash isn't stolen. Think of the Drug dealing system from CTW returning but expanded upon.

 

 

 

Street capitalism

 

Somebody who was just released from prison after 10+ years and gets back into the game

 

Somebody like Cutty or Dwayne from IV who has to adjust and start over but still has a reputation from the old days and people still fear them.



 

 

Now the only problem I see for R* is choosing time period and location. Street Gangs have changed and a lot of the violence is usually over really stupid stuff. I could see something working in the late 90s early 00's between 1998-2004. Set in either Atlanta, Philadelphia or Boston. Los Santos would have been great with Latin gangs but since V was just set there I'd like to see someplace else.

Edited March 2 by Zello

[TheSantader25]

I think SA did the gang theme pretty well so I'm rooting for a lone wolf street drug dealer in the ghettos. 

[GTA-Biker]

If they do another street gang-based game,they should avoid another LS setting,after having two gangbanger protagonists from LS,it would feel repetitive to do the same thing again IMO.I'd be interested to see a different take on street gangs and gangbanging,show how they do it in other parts of the country.Maybe have street gangs based in East Coast or the Midwest,or maybe even have a Latino gangbanger from Vice City (maybe a Cuban) as a protagonist.

[Copcaller]

If they do please abandon the families I'd rather see a mc in the vagos or mara Bunta

[Zello]

If they go with a gangbanger really hope they avoid getting the FIB/IAA involved in the main plot. They did it in SA with Toreno. I don't mind local city cops that are dirty or trying to build a case to take you down but gangstas and feds just don't mix at all unless the protagonist is snitching.

Edited March 24, 2019 by Zello

[Algonquin Assassin]

The only way I'd accept it if they break away from the archetypes they established with CJ and Franklin. CJ could've worked if he wasn't such an inconsistent pussy and Franklin's "I'm trying to make some paper to get outta da hood" got old really fast.

 

I also think they should do away with them trying to get a better life for themselves. Have a gritty and raw tale where the guy never leaves the life behind. That would be refreshing and eliminate a lot of the flaws from CJ and Franklin.

[iiCriminnaaL]

Another gangbanger protagonist wouldn't hurt, but the whole "Trying to get out of the hood" was way too overused, even in movies. Not only Franklin, but even CJ wasn't that interested in the gang life, and was actually trying to get away. The only protagonist who was totally into his gang's lifestyle was Johnny Klebitz.

 

Anyway, I'd rather to have something new. Maybe this time a biker, but as a "full" title, since it wasn't used that much anyway. Or a cartel boss?

 

The mafia theme is cool too, but I'm not sure how it would work. Playing as the Don mightn't be a choice, since Dons mostly don't commit in a lot of activities. And I don't think people (including me) are really into another lapdog protagonist. A middle ground could be playing as the Don's right-hand man, who also should be siblings with him. That'll reduce this "Yes boss" attitude.

[Ondr4H]

I dont want to see gangbanger

I want to see Busta, Straight Busta instead!

[Typhus]

I really wanted Franklin to be an ice cold Marlo Stanfield type. I thought, given the artwork of him, that was where they were headed but even though he was the villain in 2 of the 3 endings, they just didn't give him any real kind of character.

Sadly, this was true for CJ, too. San Andreas had such a ridiculous, improbable story that he didn't really work as a protagonist.

 

But you know, that's no reason to dismiss the whole idea. They could even do an updated version of the Red Jacks and the Purple Nines, and have a story around a designer drug like SPANK which moves the gears of the plot forward. It would be cool if you could use your money to improve your area of the map, too. Like how Al Capone opened soup kitchens. So you keep the scale small, but show in little ways the power your character is accumulating.

[iiCriminnaaL]

3 minutes ago, Typhus said:

I really wanted Franklin to be an ice cold Marlo Stanfield type. I thought, given the artwork of him, that was where they were headed but even though he was the villain in 2 of the 3 endings, they just didn't give him any real kind of character.

Sadly, this was true for CJ, too. San Andreas had such a ridiculous, improbable story that he didn't really work as a protagonist.

 

But you know, that's no reason to dismiss the whole idea. They could even do an updated version of the Red Jacks and the Purple Nines, and have a story around a designer drug like SPANK which moves the gears of the plot forward. It would be cool if you could use your money to improve your area of the map, too. Like how Al Capone opened soup kitchens. So you keep the scale small, but show in little ways the power your character is accumulating.

R* should've made it a little fresher and gave us a Balla gangbanger (or a Vago) who deals drugs and is interested in the hood. That Family good boy trying to make something of himself was already used in San Andreas.

[thalilmythos]

I don't understand at all the grudge against CJ, he was a very humanized character, but a whiny bitch? cmon now, dead mom, dead brother, brother in jail, he actually didn't complain much considering his situation.

 

I would like to see a strong silent type character whose carismaresides in non corny one liners, kinda like niko, but of course, with a gang.

 

I think that it doesn't matter where rockstar makes a game, they should add more criminal features to the games of this new generation.

 

The lost were dealing drugs and guns, but there were no missions about it, Franklin was still willing to "put some work" for the hood, but still, they SURELY scraped the possibility for having gang wars with Lamar, or doing some drug related businesses.

 

The only time they actually got it all right was VCS.

[Timcatgt5]

I'm not into the gang banging scene, because the story seems similar every time and lacks productivity.

 

But I can see the next protagonist being an Army veteran trying to settle into a new life after being discharged, but his past haunts him as he meets old friends, and his struggle to survive his demons due to PTSD. 

 

It worked for Victor Vance, because his motivation was to provide money for his family, while under contract for the US Army, by doing illegal activities for his boss, and the lack of normal opportunities were minimal, so he had to take the fast way. 

[6fangedcutthroatTV]

All I had to see was Marlo. Say no more. 

 

Omar can be 6 stars.

 

 

[Official General]

Hmmmm…..

 

As much as I would like to see the gangbanger stuff on a personal level, I'd say not for now. I'd rather see a Hispanic drug-dealer kind of protagonist first.

 

However if they do another gangbanger theme, I'd like to see it set in a different city like someone else said earlier. Chicago would be a great location for that kind of stuff, so I'd like it there. Or if it's a V expansion, a Mexican-American gang member getting tied in with Mexican drug cartels would do nicely. 

 

On 3/29/2019 at 9:02 AM, Timcatgt5 said:

I'm not into the gang banging scene, because the story seems similar every time and lacks productivity.

 

But I can see the next protagonist being an Army veteran trying to settle into a new life after being discharged, but his past haunts him as he meets old friends, and his struggle to survive his demons due to PTSD. 

 

It worked for Victor Vance, because his motivation was to provide money for his family, while under contract for the US Army, by doing illegal activities for his boss, and the lack of normal opportunities were minimal, so he had to take the fast way. 

No disrespect but that sounds boring for GTA. Just sounds like another version of Trevor but in a more serious tone. That can work for another separate game, just not GTA. 

Edited April 1, 2019 by Official General

[Zello]

On 3/24/2019 at 6:44 AM, American Venom said:

The only way I'd accept it if they break away from the archetypes they established with CJ and Franklin. CJ could've worked if he wasn't such an inconsistent pussy and Franklin's "I'm trying to make some paper to get outta da hood" got old really fast.

 

I also think they should do away with them trying to get a better life for themselves. Have a gritty and raw tale where the guy never leaves the life behind. That would be refreshing and eliminate a lot of the flaws from CJ and Franklin.

 

I agree he should never leave the streets behind. Make it so in the story after he gets rich he still misses the streets. It's still in him. As goofy and terribly written Trevor was and as much as I hate him Trevor was kinda like that.

Edited April 19, 2019 by Zello

[Zello]

I want to see initiation.

 

I'm surprised that Saints Row before it got all goofy did it in SR1.

Edited June 8, 2019 by Zello

[Rajaraja]

No way. I hate African American "gangstas" and rap culture is disgusting. They should focus on other criminal groups, like the mob, Triads, or drug cartels.

[Cjrememberthat]

On 3/4/2019 at 11:45 AM, TheSantader25 said:

I think SA did the gang theme pretty well so I'm rooting for a lone wolf street drug dealer in the ghettos. 

Pretty well?, dude it was like for a few missions or somethin, one thing:gta SA f*cked the gang theme at its worst, a gangbanger became a soldier killing jetpack stealer, how f*ckin original, nah...

[Gtaman_92]

5 hours ago, Rajaraja said:

No way. I hate African American "gangstas" and rap culture is disgusting. They should focus on other criminal groups, like the mob, Triads, or drug cartels.

 

And what exactly makes those other criminal groups any better? They all do crimes.

Edited June 8, 2019 by Gtaman_92

[TheSantader25]

16 minutes ago, Gtaman_92 said:

 

And what exactly makes those other criminal groups any better? They all do crimes.

Because they are not bLaCK. 

[Zello]

6 hours ago, Rajaraja said:

No way. I hate African American "gangstas" and rap culture is disgusting. They should focus on other criminal groups, like the mob, Triads, or drug cartels.

Street gangs aren't exclusively black....

 

There are latino street gangs, Asian street gangs, the rare white street gangs.

 

Also there are things that street gangs do that are unique to street gangs.

 

2 hours ago, Cjrememberthat said:

Pretty well?, dude it was like for a few missions or somethin, one thing:gta SA f*cked the gang theme at its worst, a gangbanger became a soldier killing jetpack stealer, how f*ckin original, nah...

CJ was a secret agent lmao.

Edited June 8, 2019 by Zello

[Cjrememberthat]

@Zello then that would make sense because from what i and so many other people have seen from those missions, there is no single reason to work for such a douchebag like truth

[Auditore]

On 3/24/2019 at 7:44 AM, SonOfLiberty said:

The only way I'd accept it if they break away from the archetypes they established with CJ and Franklin. CJ could've worked if he wasn't such an inconsistent pussy and Franklin's "I'm trying to make some paper to get outta da hood" got old really fast.

 

I also think they should do away with them trying to get a better life for themselves. Have a gritty and raw tale where the guy never leaves the life behind. That would be refreshing and eliminate a lot of the flaws from CJ and Franklin.

Uh,CJ story wasnt about leaving the hood for a better life,in the end he was rich but didnt leave the hood,Sweet convinced him not to.Franklin is the one who left the hood and had no wish to go back.

[Zello]

34 minutes ago, Auditore said:

Uh,CJ story wasnt about leaving the hood for a better life,in the end he was rich but didnt leave the hood,Sweet convinced him not to.Franklin is the one who left the hood and had no wish to go back.

CJ was happy though and was trying to convince Sweet to leave the hood behind. Sweet convinced him to stay instead.

Edited June 24, 2019 by Zello

[Vega LVI]

I would welcome it, so long as R* doesn’t present the character within yet another “rags to riches” plot like we’ve experienced twice already with CJ and Franklin.

 

For those of you who may have humbled yourselves to some Oz (the HBO series) at some point, you may recall a character named Burr Redding. A protagonist with a similar backstory and personality to Burr’s—an old-school, grizzled African-American war veteran-turned-drug dealer from the projects serving a prison sentence for murder and a slew of attempted murders—would provide a fresh, new spin on the whole “gangbanger” archetype. The game can pick up from the character’s release from prison (getting off on a legal technicality would certainly give local law enforcement enough reason to breathe down his neck for the length of the story, á la C.R.A.S.H. in SA) and may involve him trying to reestablish himself in a criminal underworld that has greatly evolved since he was put away years ago.

 

 

 

[MojoGamer]

1 hour ago, Zello said:

CJ was happy though and was trying to convince Sweet to leave the hood behind. Sweet convinced him to stay instead.

We don't see him in his Gta 5 hood, so CJ likely moved back to Liberty City to be featured in Gta 6  and Sweet might of gone back to jail alongside Stretch and Franklin before Gta 5 ever happened.

Yes, its just speculation but very plausible since the book about CJ disappearing in Gta 5. Could be about him being the only Families suspect who fought himself out of a police raid and never been seen again.

Yes, Franklin is not from the same set and the Families could of had another gang meeting that got raided by the police where GroveStreet happened to attend again.

Edited June 24, 2019 by MojoGamer

[YamatheKreature47]

1 hour ago, MojoGamer said:

We don't see him in his Gta 5 hood, so CJ likely moved back to Liberty City to be featured in Gta 6  and Sweet might of gone back to jail alongside Stretch and Franklin before Gta 5 ever happened.

Yes, its just speculation but very plausible since the book about CJ disappearing in Gta 5. Could be about him being the only Families suspect who fought himself out of a police raid and never been seen again.

Yes, Franklin is not from the same set and the Families could of had another gang meeting that got raided by the police where GroveStreet happened to attend again.

CJ doesn't exist in the HD era, so we will never see him again. He is apart of the 3D era with Claude, Tommy, Tony, and Vic Vance. HD era is Niko, Luis, Johnny, Michael, Trevor, and Franklin

[Beato_dim]

Not really. The 'gang culture' theme is what initially kinda turned me off of SA. I eventually grew to like the game, but still rate the flashing 80s lights of VC more highly than 'in the hood' aesthetic of SA.

[MojoGamer]

12 hours ago, YamatheKreature47 said:

CJ doesn't exist in the HD era, so we will never see him again. He is apart of the 3D era with Claude, Tommy, Tony, and Vic Vance. HD era is Niko, Luis, Johnny, Michael, Trevor, and Franklin

Put there is proof CJ exist, if you find the book about him in Lester's house. Even Lamar knew Grove Street belonged to the Families, before the Ballas took it over.

Rockstar Games has said most of our protagonists are not dead or gone, when fans mentioned the graffitied named easter egg in GTA 4.

There is even evidence that John Marston from Red Dead Redemption, co-exists in GTA's universe. Example:  Jack Marston's book, John Marston's face 1 npc's tshirt, the random person looking for bigfoot and etc.

CJ was even photographed on 1 of GTA4's billbroads!

Don't let them control your mind like sheep, the truth is out there like the illuminati.

[Auditore]

All references to CJ in gta 5 are just easter eggs,same as the jack marston book in gta 5,only  a easter egg.Doesnt mean its in the same universe.Only Lazlow and Love Fist survived the universe change.