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Varmint rifle nerf


DonnieVega
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After having a discussion with Talisman_83, I started wondering about how the Varmint rifle got nerfed.

He has to consistently shoot small game and birds two times since the last update, while for me, one shot will still usually do the job.

 

Rockstar stated they have changed the accuracy for it to be more balanced, but I only really feel a reduction in range. 

 

So how is your Varmint rifle performing these days?

 

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  • Increased accuracy spread when distracted to bring the weapon in line with other fast-firing longarm weapons 

 

 

Accuracy wasn’t exactly nerfed. I’m assuming distracted means being suppressed (similar to battlefield 3/4/1. You kind of get the same visual effect with the screen turning black and shaking) or aiming while moving or some sh*t

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I think it's range more than anything. There has always been an issue with sometimes needing two shots to kill on occasion. I was 6' away from a sitting Pelican and it still managed to fly off after being shot....

 

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23 minutes ago, DonnieVega said:

After having a discussion with Talisman_83, I started wondering about how the Varmint rifle got nerfed.

He has to consistently shoot small game and birds two times since the last update, while for me, one shot will still usually do the job.

 

Rockstar stated they have changed the accuracy for it to be more balanced, but I only really feel a reduction in range. 

 

So how is your Varmint rifle performing these days?

 

Now if you're further away by a little it takes multiple shots. 

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Previously

 

I could 1-shot a heron or rabbit and get a perfect pelt. Consistently.

 

Now

 

I either;

 

VERY occasionally, 1-shot a heron or rabbit and almost always get a poor or good pelt. Perfect pelts are now a rare commodity.

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More often than not, it takes at least 2 shots to kill a heron or rabbit which almost always generates a poor pelt.

 

This also applies regardless of how close I am to the animal.

 

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I know this sounds ridiculous for the birds, but try aiming for the neck/head. Just like large game. But generally, aim and pause, then shoot and it still works out single shot. The distance on flying birds felt nerfed prior to the update.

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Just now, ZakeBudek said:

I know this sounds ridiculous for the birds, but try aiming for the neck/head. Just like large game. But generally, aim and pause, then shoot and it still works out single shot. The distance on flying birds felt nerfed prior to the update.

The thing is, if you come across a flock of herons (either sitting or in the air), if you manage to get a headshot on one, then immediately you have a very small window where you need to shoot the rest down. Unless you can land perfect headshots on a flock of birds trying to evade you, you're now going to end up with poor carcasses. Previously I didn't need to bother where I aimed. I'd always get perfect or good carcasses. I'd really have to f*ck up to get a poor carcass (and 1 plume)

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6 minutes ago, Talisman_83 said:

The thing is, if you come across a flock of herons (either sitting or in the air), if you manage to get a headshot on one, then immediately you have a very small window where you need to shoot the rest down. Unless you can land perfect headshots on a flock of birds trying to evade you, you're now going to end up with poor carcasses. Previously I didn't need to bother where I aimed. I'd always get perfect or good carcasses. I'd really have to f*ck up to get a poor carcass (and 1 plume)

You get 1 plume from perfect now anyway, and bird carcasses are $ crap, so shoot the hell out of 'em. (protip: pelicans, vultures, owls feathers weren't nerfed, 3 for 3*)

 

Also, more than 4 birds, they tend to despawn #s 5, 6 and so on, it was that way before the update. Yeah, it sucks now, but my advice before the update and now, be slightly more patient puling the trigger, even as they fly away. There's just no killing the 10 birds you come across. Never was.

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Slightly off-topic, but does anyone know a good spawn location for egrets? Snowy, red, etc

 

4 minutes ago, ZakeBudek said:

You get 1 plume from perfect now anyway, and bird carcasses are $ crap, so shoot the hell out of 'em. (protip: pelicans, vultures, owls feathers weren't nerfed, 3 for 3*)

 

Also, more than 4 birds, they tend to despawn #s 5, 6 and so on, it was that way before the update. Yeah, it sucks now, but my advice before the update and now, be slightly more patient puling the trigger, even as they fly away. There's just no killing the 10 birds you come across. Never was.

Yeah think I might need to switch to pelicans. Or just shoot anything that flies to make up for the cut in prices.

Previously, I was really selective with what I used my varmint rifle rounds on. Always gave ravens a miss.

Now, I might need to welcome them into the fold.

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I was noticing this phenomenon before the patch, haven't done much plume hunting since though... but, yeah, as others have said, I don't even really care now that I'm only ever gonna get a single plume no matter what.

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Just now, Talisman_83 said:

Slightly off-topic, but does anyone know a good spawn location for egrets? Snowy, red, etc

 

Yeah think I might need to switch to pelicans. Or just shoot anything that flies to make up for the cut in prices.

Previously, I was really selective with what I used my varmint rifle rounds on. Always gave ravens a miss.

Now, I might need to welcome them into the fold.

Preupdate, I was just starting to hit ravens, ducks, geese, why not. I mean the game serves them up, they don't take satchel space away from others, it's $3-4+ at the butcher. So I say go for it, kill em all, let the butcher sort em out.

 

But postupdate, personally, I'm done, the hunting price nerf is a slap in the face, on top of no content, and nothing really to spend $ on. Keeping in mind I made it to 115 with 18 ability cards, 3 horses (1 still broken), and a fair amount of clothes I hate. There's nothing else to do now, and seemingly nothing else to spend money on.

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I always spook grounded birds unless I can get a clean headshot. There's a better chance of a 1 shot kill if the bird is in the air.

Its been like this before and after the update.

 

If the bird gives plumes you can only get 1. All birds that gives feathers gives 3 feathers if perfect killed

 

Your rifle was in perfect condition right? Otherwise its just pure stupidity

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Semaj 2JZ♢

As someone who has used the VR extensively in FR for the majority of my hunting, I can tell you this:

 

- The accuracy bloom is at least twice the size it used to be, upon initial aiming.

 

- The distance at which auto aim will take over has been reduced quite a bit. Feels like about 70% of what it was before.

 

- The damage is reduced if you don't hold the aim long enough. Best to wait til your reticle dot is bright red. Like an extra second worth of aiming before firing.

 

- Not being much on PvP modes, I have still watched some YTers playing around with it in showdown and gun rush. To me, it appears the nerf does NOT extend to these modes. Only in FR will you experience the difference. Again, IMHO.

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13 hours ago, Assblaster said:

Now if you're further away by a little it takes multiple shots. 

Try switching to Paint it Black.  See flock, enter deadeye, kill all of them, profit.

 

Hope they dont despawn.

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JustCallMeNiko

Since the update I've found the range seems reduced...with large birds of prey that fly high I seem to need to be almost under them to get within lock on range..

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DarksunDaFirst

I think the range has been reduced, which is actually forcing people to aim extremely accurately with the gun to get any type of 1-shot kill.  Good.  

As for the small prey - headshot and the prime vitals area still are a 1-shot kill at almost any range (I can't guarantee long distance is 100% accurate without inspecting the animal).  Still I manage to get perfect pelts a plenty with it while on horseback at a canter, but full gallop is very hard.

 

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16 hours ago, Chrismads said:

I always spook grounded birds unless I can get a clean headshot. There's a better chance of a 1 shot kill if the bird is in the air.

Its been like this before and after the update.

 

If the bird gives plumes you can only get 1. All birds that gives feathers gives 3 feathers if perfect killed

 

Your rifle was in perfect condition right? Otherwise its just pure stupidity

Yes it was in perfect condition. I clean my weapon after each regular sale.

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