Stealing posse missions got nerfed really badly.

[Jasmyn]

22 hours ago, IamCourtney said:

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My suspicion is that players were starting to launch missions for their friends to attack and win shortly afterwards and moving from mission to mission letting one of them make money faster than the Official R* Approved Rate of Gain.

This!

[wehweh01]

I've had friends who accidently stolen multiple posse missions back to back. It's hilarious when it happens and imagine it's somewhat profitable to do. Shame to see these shenanigans go away or rather just the profit.

 

On the flipside, I'm noticing that when missions start you don't see them unless you're nearby and even then they vanish from the radar once they've distanced themselves from you. That part is kinda cool. 

 

 

 

[Lonely-Martin]

1 hour ago, Fugitive21 said:

In all honesty this is why i stopped playing this game. Its a PVP game and people knew dam well it was but cried that it was. Forced PVP? umm you knew dam well this was a PVP game before it even came out. The players cried and change happened for the worse. Kill people for no reason you get punished ...ok fine....defend yourself...your punished WTF....Steal or hijack somebodies mission (playing the game)...get dick squat now and punished. Why because people complained.

 

Done care if I get banned from here but to the players that say I want to play with no harm.....GO TO DAM STORY MODE if you want that!! If you dont PVP then what is the dam point of you hunting, gathering money, getting levels...Seriously for what???? So you kill that squirrel faster for your .32 cents. You dont PVP so you don't need to levels, special guns, or all that money an gold bars. Flat out story mode.

 

Please dear god don't say you play online to hang with friends.

Why can't we just play to hang with friends then?

 

And if it's a PvP game, why are there PvE missions?

 

*facepalm!!

[Ryan5252]

2 hours ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Why can't we just play to hang with friends then?

 

And if it's a PvP game, why are there PvE missions?

 

*facepalm!!

Done a mission for Joe I think it was last night. Deliver a stage to Aberdeen Pig Farm; straight forward enough. Killed a few NPCs en route and I decided to loot them which is unlike me as I rarely do that but I wanted 5 items for fence so I decided to stop and take the time. While doing that another NPC stage coach crashed into mine and left mine kinda stuck, that's when I got attacked by another player. No problem, pulled out Lancaster with explosive to deter him/scare him off and got my stage back on the road. He proceeded to chase me all the way to drop off. Killed him a few times on the way as he gave chase only for him to kill me and steal the wagon just outside the drop off. Respawned and killed him as he was making off in my wagon. Took back control and delivered it. Really enjoyed the challenge and added a bit of excitement to the boring ride to drop off. End of the mission he walked over to me, just as I was preparing to wave to say "Good game" he threw dynamite at me. Dodged that and killed him again. Then he left the lobby.

 

That's the problem with these so called "Game is PvP game" players. It is clear in the case he only intended to stop me completing the mission. He didn't give a dam about the pay out. When I deafted him and completed it anyway he came back with dynamite. When I still killed him he left, no doubt to try again with someone else. I'm all for PvP doing stranger missions, or in showdown or whatever. But my experience is 90% of attackers are just doing it to troll and cause sh*te. I've met a few who at the end we can wave and go our separate ways, regardless of who wins. That's actually what "the game encourages". Some people just like to be dicks and the uproar by some people here and elsewhere in the last few days is the exact reason these changes were implemented in the first place. 

[Semaj 2JZ♢]

4 hours ago, Fugitive21 said:

If you dont PVP then what is the dam point of you hunting, gathering money, getting levels...Seriously for what????

 

Please dear god don't say you play online to hang with friends.  

Because some of us like to do posse things, without being part of a permanent posse. I, for one, want/like to play as a team with other players, against the CPU. Hence, Story Missions. There needs to be far more of these, like 50 of them. Along with survival type modes. Things where I can play WITH other people, not just AGAINST. Like it's all just this 1v1 crap, I keep seeing. Why is that a flex for some of you?

 

The problem with this, mostly, is the fact that not many want to be on a team in actual team fashion. Far too many hero wannabes that have no concept of sharing or equality. It's just "me, me, me. I'm the best, watch me." It's usually the asshole with his fancy, gold bar bought everything character, too.

 

Anyways, like others have said and the overall down to the earth, fact of the matter is; NOBODY really "won" with this update. We all got the shaft in one way or another, on the things we like to do. Instead of making things better for everyone, (which is very doable and has been outlined logically from the very start) R* figured it was better to just make everything worse for everyone.

 

Basically, a "screw you all for everyone's negative feedback and not riding our dicks, like good sheep should."

[Ryan5252]

3 minutes ago, Semaj 2JZ♢ said:

Anyways, like others have said and the overall down to the earth, fact of the matter is; NOBODY really "won" with this update. We all got the shaft in one way or another, on the things we like to do. 

 

Basically, a "screw you all for everyone's negative feedback and not riding our dicks, like good sheep should."

100% true. Everyone from Hunter/Gatherers, to PvPers, to Griefers. Every class of player has been equally f**ked over in this update. There were some good changes added I agree, but ultimately, we all got screwed with our pants on. 

[Foxwolfe]

On 2/27/2019 at 9:11 AM, Lord-Sam said:

But the entire f*cking point of stranger missions to be able to f*cking intercept them.
 

 

What? No it's not, as has already been explained they are a mix of strait PVE, PVE with the incentive for PVP and then the straight PVP missions. As was mentioned above you're literally the only one here crying.

 

The funny thing is I agree with your stance I just thing your posts here are kinda sad and whiney.

[Pocket Fox]

for a 'PvP' game... why is there no PvP in the story missions??

 

check mate, atheists.

 

The same excuse as 'GTA is a Crime game' then why can't I kill other players on a heist and take all the money for myself?

 

 

Also, PvP showdown modes remain unaffected by the blip adjustment... so surely the 'hardcore' PvP audience is playing those and doesn't care about free roam?

You mean....free roam PvP where you get 30xp for a player kill....that's literally it. No reward at all.

 

 

Obligatory generic comments people like to throw out, now thrown back at them:

 

'lol if you want a PvP game go play fornite or rust kid'

 

'the game is a beta, do you know what that means??¿¿ it's not finished yet so R* can change whatever they want'

 

'you're acting entitled'

 

'git gud'

 

'lol you sound poor'

 

'720p 30fps lol'

 

'maybe this isn't the game for you'

 

'you knew what kind of game this was when you bought it'  (irony here is people want features from RDR1 in RDRO - go figure, you think we woulda known THIS game was apparently gonna be NOTHING like the first one, herp derp)

[Ronin Ogami]

3 hours ago, Pocket Fox said:

for a 'PvP' game... why is there no PvP in the story missions??

 

check mate, atheists.

 

The same excuse as 'GTA is a Crime game' then why can't I kill other players on a heist and take all the money for myself?

 

 

Also, PvP showdown modes remain unaffected by the blip adjustment... so surely the 'hardcore' PvP audience is playing those and doesn't care about free roam?

You mean....free roam PvP where you get 30xp for a player kill....that's literally it. No reward at all.

 

 

Obligatory generic comments people like to throw out, now thrown back at them:

 

'lol if you want a PvP game go play fornite or rust kid'

 

'the game is a beta, do you know what that means??¿¿ it's not finished yet so R* can change whatever they want'

 

'you're acting entitled'

 

'git gud'

 

'lol you sound poor'

 

'720p 30fps lol'

 

'maybe this isn't the game for you'

 

'you knew what kind of game this was when you bought it'  (irony here is people want features from RDR1 in RDRO - go figure, you think we woulda known THIS game was apparently gonna be NOTHING like the first one, herp derp)

I was chuckling so much at this my wife & daughter thought I'd lost my mind. 

 

 I adore this game, & don't mind an honest tussle in FR every now & again. problem is, some folks ain't all that honest & only want to jump you while you're not lookin', & aren't interested in a fair fight. When I'm feeling the need to fight, I go to showdown. that's where it belongs, Stopping posse/player stranger missions always seemed a little odd to me, but it does make it interesting & keep you on your toes. Only interrupted a mission once, & in the long run the payout never seemed worth it to me.

[U Carmine]

7 hours ago, Pocket Fox said:

Also, PvP showdown modes remain unaffected by the blip adjustment... so surely the 'hardcore' PvP audience is playing those and doesn't care about free roam?

This isn't true. Players blips have been changed in Showdown. I'm not sure if you've played Hostile Territory since the update. But when other teams spawn, they don't show up on our map radar to prevent spawn killing. People can even disappear off the radar, in the middle of the map.

 

7 hours ago, Pocket Fox said:

'lol if you want a PvP game go play fornite or rust kid'

 

I mentioned this in my previous post. People may not wanna play PvP in Fortnite. The gameplay, artstyle, graphics. It's all completely different.

Edited March 1, 2019 by Ektope

[That69Guy]

I look as this thread and see people mocking each other and it seems all this update has done is pin the community against each other,  PVP Vs PVE players. I really don't understand it because both sides took a huge hit in this update.  The game feels dead and boring.  Hunting is not very profitable anymore.  PVP feels slow and boring.  Prices were jacked and desired items locked behind gold.  No side really won here, we all took a loss. So why are we celebrating? Bounty system drains your bank account. Killing Npc in missions adds bounty. The take two stock is down and all these changes did was allow rockstar to force more money out of our pockets. Yet we are cheering. Removing dead eye accuracy affects both PVP and PVE.  I used dead eye to kill multiple birds,  animals and even Npcs at gang hideouts.  That was taken away from us. There are no winners here, well only rockstar if we allow this and support it by buying their precious gold.  Those unhappy stop crying and voice your opinion to rockstar and send feedback.  That's all we can do.  Option 2 move on to greener pastures.  Sorry for my thesis.

[Rafae S]

2 minutes ago, That69Guy said:

I look as this thread and see people mocking each other and it seems all this update has done is pin the community against each other,  PVP Vs PVE players. I really don't understand it because both sides took a huge hit in this update.  The game feels dead and boring.  Hunting is not very profitable anymore.  PVP feels slow and boring.  Prices were jacked and desired items locked behind gold.  No side really won here, we all took a loss. So why are we celebrating? Bounty system drains your bank account. Killing Npc in missions adds bounty. The take two stock is down and all these changes did was allow rockstar to force more money out of our pockets. Yet we are cheering. Removing dead eye accuracy affects both PVP and PVE.  I used dead eye to kill multiple birds,  animals and even Npcs at gang hideouts.  That was taken away from us. There are no winners here, well only rockstar if we allow this and support it by buying their precious gold.  Those unhappy stop crying and voice your opinion to rockstar and send feedback.  That's all we can do.  Option 2 move on to greener pastures.  Sorry for my thesis.

 

Idk about you but I've had a lot less people killing me or sabotaging my stranger missions since the update. The payouts for those remain unaffected so clearly someone won here lol.

[That69Guy]

Yup you won. Half the player base is unhappy and possibly moving on. A dying game becoming more dead. Victory. You're happy doing the same boring missions over and over by all means go ahead. But you won nothing.  You got use to hiding in private lobby in gta and now you want the same here.  Lobby type would have been a victory. Not this. 

[Rafae S]

1 minute ago, That69Guy said:

Yup you won. Half the player base is unhappy and possibly moving on. A dying game becoming more dead. Victory. You're happy doing the same boring missions over and over by all means go ahead. But you won nothing.  You got use to hiding in private lobby in gta and now you want the same here.  Lobby type would have been a victory. Not this. 

 

[That69Guy]

Dramatic lol.  Crying for nerfs because you get killed in freeroam is dramatic. 

[Rafae S]

writing essays is even more dramatic

[That69Guy]

You sure put me in my place.  You're forum MVP for the night. 

[ThaBirdCoot]

Voicing opininon to R* huehue

 

Like they are listening...

 

there's a reason this is a fan forum,not an offical R* feedback page. Expect petitions to work as well I guess ? Boah you*re in for a tough one

Edited March 2, 2019 by ThaBirdCoot

[That69Guy]

They listened to those who requested economy changes, blip changes,  Nerf's to varmint rifles and bounty system to minimize griefers. So yeah to a certain extend they are listening. 

[ThaBirdCoot]

because the varmint rifle was the biggest of concerns right ?  as was hunting I guess, nice touch to reduce plumes by 2 and to remove most blips so we can get that true SP experince in Online... man

 

edit: tha f*ck am I even going off topic for? I'll leave it there

Edited March 2, 2019 by ThaBirdCoot

[That69Guy]

Never said the varmint was a concern.  But people cried about it and it was changed.  My only point.  I'll leave it there also. 

[Foxwolfe]

I kinda agree with your point but don't know why you brought up take 2's stock dropping lol, as it has no actual relevance to the topic on hand and as an aside stock performance isn't necessarily indicative of a company doing poorly as the market can be driven by completely different things.

[Chunkey_Monkey]

On 2/27/2019 at 5:00 PM, Lord-Sam said:

But I'm getting 80 cents for stealing a stranger mission

So go cry about it, stranger missions are PVP orientated.

Getting 80 cents for stealing one is bullsh*t, doesn't even cover camp upkeep

So go cry about it

[Lonely-Martin]

On 3/2/2019 at 4:31 AM, That69Guy said:

I look as this thread and see people mocking each other and it seems all this update has done is pin the community against each other,  PVP Vs PVE players.

Just like GTA:O. R* are convinced that it's the most profitable way.

 

Plus, while we're squabbling, R* can add less and less content on the day of a DLC and more overpriced crap. We're too busy arguing to unite and see the game grow as it could.

 

Of course, some are very pleased with this farce, but each their own.