Stealing posse missions got nerfed really badly.

[DarksunDaFirst]

5 minutes ago, Lord-Sam said:

So if you want a casual baby PVE game go play Fallout 76.

People like you crying is why games are f*cking dumbed down these days. I can't even imagine dark souls getting dumbed down to appeal to cry babies that want to PVE but they don't wanna go offline because they want that sweet co-op.

 

Just now, Lord-Sam said:

They should rename this game to My little Pony Adventure because from this thread alone I am seeing nothing but babies that can't handle their mission getting stolen and they need a safe space so they cried to rockstar until you now get 80 cents for stealing a missions.

You're getting out of line and seriously need to calm down.  

You don't like PvE, we get it.  What you don't get about PvE though is that it's a large group activity that can be made VERY CHALLENGING TO DOWNRIGHT IMPOSSIBLE.  The fact you don't know this shows me you've never done any really good PvE events in any game OR you simply don't like them.  In either case, it doesn't invalidate the desire for PvE.  It's always been one of the largest groups in online games.

[Rafae S]

Just now, Lord-Sam said:

Hey f*cker I can still attack and ruin their mission. Getting paid 80 cents isn't going to stop people from griefing.

 

then why the f*ck did you make this thread lmao

 

go cry about it on reddit

[ghostsoap01]

1 minute ago, Lord-Sam said:

They should rename this game to My little Pony Adventure because from this thread alone I am seeing nothing but babies that can't handle their mission getting stolen and they need a safe space so they cried to rockstar until you now get 80 cents for stealing a missions.

Based on the maturity levels displayed in your writing, I'd argue you are the baby, and it is quite clear you can't handle that others don't always share your opinion.

[Lord-Sam]

1 minute ago, ghostsoap01 said:

From your point of view, that may be true, not from mine. Again, you fail to realize there are people with differing opinions than you, and that we have as much of a say into what happens with this game as you do.

Again you fail to realize rockstar originally intended for an open roam game with PVP in mind.

Just now, ghostsoap01 said:

Based on the maturity levels displayed in your writing, I'd argue you are the baby, and it is quite clear you can't handle that others don't always share your opinion.

 I assume you can't handle games like RUST. It doesn't hand hold for PVErs.

[DarksunDaFirst]

2 minutes ago, Lord-Sam said:

Again you fail to realize rockstar originally intended for an open roam game with PVP in mind.

How do you know their sole intentions?  Did you read a top secret dossier?

We're going off of what has been advertised.

Edited February 27, 2019 by DarksunDaFirst

[Lord-Sam]

1 minute ago, Rafae S said:

 

then why the f*ck did you make this thread lmao

 

go cry about it on reddit

Because it's f*cking bullsh*t I get 80 cents for it.

Just now, DarksunDaFirst said:

How do you know their sole intentions?  Did you read a dossier?

 

Well considering how I am given the opportunity to attack stranger missions it seemed quite clear they intended for PVP.

[IamCourtney]

6 minutes ago, DarksunDaFirst said:

All the more reason to add more of everything and stop beating around the bush.  PvP, rewarded or not, is available in all modes while PvE is ignored.  Huge amounts of the community have been asking for these things since before the game was even released (even though it was advertised!).  So you understand that one group feels totally shafted and ignored.  

It's not an ideal fix, just the only one they can do without adding more appropriate content.

 

They have the very obvious option to give each group their own area to play the way they prefer, but they've instead opted to swap the shaft from one side to the other. In fact, they haven't even done that. If missions are being attacked less, it has more to do with the new blip system than anything else. Reduced payouts deter nobody. It's just shafts all 'round at this point...

Edited February 27, 2019 by IamCourtney

[ghostsoap01]

2 minutes ago, Lord-Sam said:

Again you fail to realize rockstar originally intended for an open roam game with PVP in mind.

 I assume you can't handle games like RUST. It doesn't hand hold for PVErs.

Find me the proof of that.

The actual fact is that this game is open to changes, as I've stated numerous times before.

 

Correct, I can't handle rust, because its not my taste in games. Does that make me a scrub? Please, go on, show your immaturity.

Edited February 27, 2019 by ghostsoap01

[U Carmine]

Yesterday, when I backed out of Showdown. I got shot by a posse that were doing Stranger Missions. So what did I do? I got out my Dynamite Arrow and ruined two Stranger Missions from them. Where they had to deliver a carriage. I call it karma.

[DarksunDaFirst]

1 minute ago, IamCourtney said:

They have the very obvious option to give each group their own area to play the way they prefer, but they've instead opted to swap the shaft from one side to the other. In fact, they haven't even done that. If missions are being attacked less, it has more to do with the new blip system than anything else. Reduced payouts deter nobody.

No, there is no swap.  Just a sharing.  It's a double-ender now.

[Lord-Sam]

They already nerfed it by reducing blips, that's great.

But giving me 80 cents? Come on.

How much more nerfing can you possibly go for a PVP game?

Maybe they should have a casual little no kill freeroam and a hardcore freeroam then and people like me can handle the hardcore freeroam without my game being affected by casuals.

[Rafae S]

Just now, Lord-Sam said:

Because it's f*cking bullsh*t I get 80 cents for it.

 

[Lord-Sam]

Game is starting to feel like fallout 76 now. Complete lack of PVP because they don't know how to balance it.

[Rafae S]

Just now, Lord-Sam said:

Game is starting to feel like fallout 76 now. Complete lack of PVP because they don't know how to balance it.

 

good. go play fortnite.

[Lord-Sam]

None of the stranger missions are intended for solely PVE otherwise they'd send you into a private match or turn you into a ghost player.

[ghostsoap01]

1 minute ago, Lord-Sam said:

How much more nerfing can you possibly go for a PVP game?

 

Ah, we found the problem. See, this isn't a pvp game. I'll ask for the 3rd or 4th time (likely to be ignored still), prove its only a pvp game. You've made the claim, the burden to back it up is yours. Find me in writing R* saying its a pvp game. Just because the option is there, doesn't mean the game is all for people like you and not at all for people like me. Until I can be in a session without you, this is how its gonna be.

[DarksunDaFirst]

5 minutes ago, Lord-Sam said:

They already nerfed it by reducing blips, that's great.

But giving me 80 cents? Come on.

How much more nerfing can you possibly go for a PVP game?

Maybe they should have a casual little no kill freeroam and a hardcore freeroam then and people like me can handle the hardcore freeroam without my game being affected by casuals.

Seriously, the blips?!?  That's not nerfing.  That actually makes sense as it's been a design flaw since GTA 4.  

Like oh no...you actually have to LOOK for your targets rather than having your hand-held and being told where they are on your 1899 magical GPS locator.

Now I have doubts you're a true PvPer...at least act like you want to earn your scalps.

Done with this thread now.

Edited February 27, 2019 by DarksunDaFirst

[Rafae S]

1 minute ago, Lord-Sam said:

None of the stranger missions are intended for solely PVE otherwise they'd send you into a private match or turn you into a ghost player.

 

no one said they were.

[yeezy203]

40 minutes ago, rusbeckia said:

Exactly. Stranger missions especially are a PvP gamemode. Get over it.

"BuT We'Re SupPoSeD tO Be OuTlaWs" stfu and stop messing with people's missions. You can start missions of your own, but no you'd rather mess with someone who's put time and energy into their own. Nobody likes you, get over it.

[Fatsanchez]

I really don't understand why some people act like they created the game in the first place, so they are explaining to us how the game works.

As if a open-world game could ever be something as streamlined and narrow-minded like this. I really don't get it.

 

11 minutes ago, Lord-Sam said:

 I assume you can't handle games like RUST. It doesn't hand hold for PVErs.

WTF does RUST have in common with RDO??? Dude I must be missing something here, really.

Edited February 27, 2019 by Fatsanchez

[Lord-Sam]

2 minutes ago, ghostsoap01 said:

 

Ah, we found the problem. See, this isn't a pvp game. I'll ask for the 3rd or 4th time (likely to be ignored still), prove its only a pvp game. You've made the claim, the burden to back it up is yours. Find me in writing R* saying its a pvp game. Just because the option is there, doesn't mean the game is all for people like you and not at all for people like me. Until I can be in a session without you, this is how its gonna be.

"

 

HONOR AND OUTLAWS

In Red Dead Online, your honor will shift high and low based on your decisions and behavior. You’ll shape your honor through your choices: from life or death decisions to natural interactions such as caring for your horse.

In addition to the world responding to you in subtly different ways, you’ll also notice the nature of certain missions will reveal themselves to you based on your current honor state.

Free Roam MissionsHead over to the Stranger icons throughout the map alone or with your Posse to embark on Free Roam Missions. You’ll see some familiar faces along the way, and these missions can vary based on how noble or nefarious you are – for example, an honorable gunslinger may be asked to help escort a convoy, defending it from attacking gangs or even other players’ Posses, whereas a dishonorable outlaw may be asked to help spring a felon from the law.

A Land of OpportunitiesHonor also plays into this deeper cooperative strand for two to four players that we will continually build upon. In A Land of Opportunities, you’ll be faced with a multi-part series of missions, with some parts changing as your honor changes on a larger journey to seek truth and justice, or revenge."

 

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And

1 minute ago, yeezy203 said:

"BuT We'Re SupPoSeD tO Be OuTlaWs" stfu and stop messing with people's missions. You can start missions of your own, but no you'd rather mess with someone who's put time and energy into their own. Nobody likes you, get over it.

You do know you can literally earn a f*cking trophy/achievement for messing up someone's mission right?

You can literally be rewarded for it.

If you cry babies want a sh*tty passive little PVE game go play Fallout 76.

Bunch of PVE cry babies, we get it you want a sh*tty PVE mode.

I hope they do have a PVE mode so you retards stop watering down regular modes. f*ck off

[ghostsoap01]

6 minutes ago, Lord-Sam said:

snip.

Well, if nothing else, I commend you for actually backing up what you say.

See though, here's the thing. It says "or even" not 'you must'. Meaning its optional, not mandatory. Again, this means the game is not strictly pvp, only that it is part of it. Now I will re-state for the last time: The game is a beta, R* has a feedback system made for giving players a voice over which direction the game takes. The people have spoken, and it turns out that most of them don't want pvp forced onto them. You can call it crying and whining if you want, the fact of the matter is this change was made to discourage pvp so that those of us who don't want it aren't FORCED into it. I'd love it if R* would have just separated the lobbies instead, not harming your revenue when fighting people who opted in; but as of now I can't opt out, so this is the next best thing. I get you don't like it, and you have every right not to. However, for me and many others, this is a step in the right direction. If you are not happy, eat your own words, and go play another game please.

Edited February 27, 2019 by ghostsoap01
typos

[Lord-Sam]

They wouldn't add an achievement to literally steal a posse mission if it wasn't apart of the game.

[ghostsoap01]

alright @Lord-Sam, I'm not going to bother re-stating my opinion again, I've said all I need to on this point. You have your opinion about this nerf, and I have mine. I can see its not likely we will come to an agreement, and there's no point going on beating the same dead horse.

[IamCourtney]

This isn't a PvP vs. PvE issue. This isn't R* giving PvE preference. Nothing fundamental about the mixed PvPvE nature of free roam missions has changed. It's yet another payout nerf, simple as. It benefits nobody.

[rusbeckia]

29 minutes ago, yeezy203 said:

"BuT We'Re SupPoSeD tO Be OuTlaWs" stfu and stop messing with people's missions. You can start missions of your own, but no you'd rather mess with someone who's put time and energy into their own. Nobody likes you, get over it.

Calm the f*ck down, kid. 

I never said that I conquer each stranger mission that is happening around me. 

 

However if someone I experienced is a griefer/idiot/whatnot I want a proper payout when I track them down, finish the mission instead of them and hinder them in progressing as they do it to others. 

 

[Nyraider77]

Bad news! I never minded starting a Stanger mission and having players attack me. I viewed it as part of the game. 

[Assblaster]

42 minutes ago, Lord-Sam said:

If you cry babies want a sh*tty passive little PVE game go play Fallout 76.

Bunch of PVE cry babies, we get it you want a sh*tty PVE mode.

I hope they do have a PVE mode so you retards stop watering down regular modes. f*ck off

You're the one crying here because you dislike the new blip system: get over it, crybaby. And no player here is "watering down regular modes"...whatever that means. Quit being puerile and calling people names because you're mad at the game. Adjust to the game or gtfo and go play Rust or Fortnite.

[Lonely-Martin]

1 hour ago, Lord-Sam said:

So if you want a casual baby PVE game go play Fallout 76.

And if you want a simple PvP game go play Fortnite.

 

This thread is actually magic, I f*cking love it!!!

1 hour ago, Lord-Sam said:

But the entire f*cking point of stranger missions to be able to f*cking intercept them.
 

No it ain't, lol. That's just an option you choose. The entire f*cking point of stranger missions is to try and complete them.

 

You want to fight a sitting duck, it shouldn't be rewarded like a truly competitive mode.

[rusbeckia]

2 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

And if you want a simple PvP game go play Fortnite.

 

This thread is actually magic, I f*cking love it!!!

Noone talked about RDO being a „simple PvP“ game besides you.