Should i buy an office?

[Endjinn]

Dunno about the Cheburek, but my rule of thumb when it comes to selling is,1 full bar of supplies only. Let that convert to stock then sell. As far as stealing supplies goes; they won't bother stealing them they'll just destroy them, be on your toes.

Hope that helps.

[AcidRain7744]

Bunker has to be sold in a public lobbby. The best way to sell is to lag out your session and create a "solo public" session. On Xbox you do a "Test NAT Type" in network settings. On Playstation and PC you do something else.

 

Watching TV or security cameras does't increase product speed, it just let's you accrue product when you're at work or sleeping. What I do it launch a contact mission (Blow Up 3, Titan of Job, etc.) in an invite only session. Those only require 1 player to play. While in a contact mission you don't get charged daily fees for anything. The bunker has 9K daily fees every 50 minutes fully upgraded. You don't want to AFK in free mode.

 

There are other AFK things to consider too. I had to turn off all the energy saving settings on my Xbox and plug the controller into console with a USB cable. You've got to fight a bunch of things trying to kick you, both in the game and hardware. An easier method is rubberbanding your controller so you walk in a circle. Do AFK inside a building and invite only. You don't want to be ran over a hundred times by other players and NPCs.

 

For selling, I buy supplies one time. That is enough to fill the bunker up like 25% (don't know the numbers and my bunker is fully upgraded). You don't want product to go over 25% full. If it does, you get multiple sell vehicles and have to recruit other players to make the sale.

 

Also, watch the Newswire for 2x bunker weeks.

[KazzMajol]

On 2/27/2019 at 9:36 AM, Endjinn said:

The cheapest bunker is at Paleto Bay.

 

the money you DON'T make because of the SOLO sales you CANNOT pull off (refer to the links above, you'll see), owning the Paleto Bay bunker, far outweighs whatever savings you see in the original purchase.  

 

buy the one closest to the city, Chumash, if you have your facility and hangar near there as i do.   you're welcome.

 

1 hour ago, UpdateHater said:

PS: is the rune cheburek a good car? i think i have one more space in my garage and i want a car to drive to my first office with

 

 

the cheburek is a sweeeeeet car.     it's the faster, better handling cousin of the Warrener sedan, which i also love.

Edited March 1, 2019 by KazzMajol
meh

[UpdateHater]

1 hour ago, AcidXRain73 said:

Bunker has to be sold in a public lobbby. The best way to sell is to lag out your session and create a "solo public" session. On Xbox you do a "Test NAT Type" in network settings. On Playstation and PC you do something else.

 

Watching TV or security cameras does't increase product speed, it just let's you accrue product when you're at work or sleeping. What I do it launch a contact mission (Blow Up 3, Titan of Job, etc.) in an invite only session. Those only require 1 player to play. While in a contact mission you don't get charged daily fees for anything. The bunker has 9K daily fees every 50 minutes fully upgraded. You don't want to AFK in free mode.

 

There are other AFK things to consider too. I had to turn off all the energy saving settings on my Xbox and plug the controller into console with a USB cable. You've got to fight a bunch of things trying to kick you, both in the game and hardware. An easier method is rubberbanding your controller so you walk in a circle. Do AFK inside a building and invite only. You don't want to be ran over a hundred times by other players and NPCs.

 

For selling, I buy supplies one time. That is enough to fill the bunker up like 25% (don't know the numbers and my bunker is fully upgraded). You don't want product to go over 25% full. If it does, you get multiple sell vehicles and have to recruit other players to make the sale.

 

Also, watch the Newswire for 2x bunker weeks.

my pc gets hot as it is, i dont really want to risk a house fire over currency that isnt even real, so i wont be leaving my pc on all the time.

 

what about selling in an empty public lobby? i understand you can make more money if you sell in a lobby full of players, but right now im not fussed how much money i will make, just having a full hundred thousand dollars every few days, money from missions, and whatever gift money r* gives me, is pretty appealing.

 

by 25% do you mean the final products or supplies? if its products how much money can i make from 25%?

35 minutes ago, KazzMajol said:

 

the money you DON'T make because of the SOLO sales you CANNOT pull off (refer to the links above, you'll see), owning the Paleto Bay bunker, far outweighs whatever savings you see in the original purchase.  

 

buy the one closest to the city, Chumash, if you have your facility and hangar near there as i do.   you're welcome.

 

 

the cheburek is a sweeeeeet car.     it's the faster, better handling cousin of the Warrener sedan, which i also love.

so i should not have bought the paleto bunker? i will still use it, just sell to blaine county, making money is better then making no money.

 

Edited March 1, 2019 by UpdateHater

[AcidRain7744]

10 minutes ago, UpdateHater said:

by 25% do you mean the final products or supplies? if its products how much money can i make from 25%?

25% of the bunkers total product capacity. I think it may take 4 steals to get 25%?

 

My fully upgrade bunker sells for 140K. 280K on 2x weeks. Subtract daily fees and 75k if buying or cost of bullets if stealing.

Edited March 1, 2019 by AcidXRain73

[Endjinn]

41 minutes ago, UpdateHater said:

 

41 minutes ago, UpdateHater said:

so i should not have bought the paleto bunker? i will still use it, just sell to blaine county, making money is better then making no money.

 

No, the Paleto Bay Bunker is the best one, you can move bunkers later when there's a discount on and you have more money. Kazzmajol didn't read your OP in which you stated that you only had a million to spend. They offer good advice, but for a beginner, cheapest is best in this case. That's one of the reasons I suggested only upgrading the staff and not the equipment. "you're welcome" lol

 

You pay through the nose for 'prime' locations in this game, just take a look at the prices of other properties and where they're situated and ask yourself if you can really bear to spend the kind of money better access to the city demands.

 

Edited March 1, 2019 by Endjinn

[kcole4001]

Later on you'll want to move to either the Chumash or Farmhouse bunker.

Travel time is the issue.

They all work, but it's just that much easier to sell from there, otherwise they are all the same.

 

Buy the upgrades when you can afford it, and soon you'll be on your way to being rich.

 

The largest sale you can make with one vehicle is $175,000 stock, one full bar of supplies gives you $140,000 of stock (with full upgrades except security - you won't need security if you don't AFK and sell when you get one vehicle's worth), and costs $75,000 to buy.

 

[Taterman]

16 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

Later on you'll want to move to either the Chumash or Farmhouse bunker.

Travel time is the issue.

They all work, but it's just that much easier to sell from there, otherwise they are all the same.

 

Buy the upgrades when you can afford it, and soon you'll be on your way to being rich.

 

The largest sale you can make with one vehicle is $175,000 stock, one full bar of supplies gives you $140,000 of stock (with full upgrades except security - you won't need security if you don't AFK and sell when you get one vehicle's worth), and costs $75,000 to buy.

 

Totally agree about the Chumash or Farmhouse bunker. It's easy to sell solo (just buy 75k worth of supplies) and sell in Los Santos for $210k every 2 and a half hours.

[KazzMajol]

42 minutes ago, Endjinn said:

No, the Paleto Bay Bunker is the best one, you can move bunkers later when there's a discount on and you have more money. Kazzmajol didn't read your OP in which you stated that you only had a million to spend. They offer good advice, but for a beginner, cheapest is best in this case. That's one of the reasons I suggested only upgrading the staff and not the equipment. "you're welcome" lol

 

You pay through the nose for 'prime' locations in this game, just take a look at the prices of other properties and where they're situated and ask yourself if you can really bear to spend the kind of money better access to the city demands.

 

 

of course i read it.    my advice is don't upgrade the paleto one at all, so you so don't flush that money down the toilet when you buy the chumash one.    but hey, wtf do i know?   cheers.   

[Taterman]

14 minutes ago, KazzMajol said:

 

of course i read it.    my advice is don't upgrade the paleto one at all, so you so don't flush that money down the toilet when you buy the chumash one.    but hey, wtf do i know?   cheers.   

This is true. I've moved mine twice now and settled on Chumash, but got burned having to buy the upgrades again.

Get Chumash or the Farmhouse, upgrade it and don't look back.

[Endjinn]

33 minutes ago, Taterman said:

Totally agree about the Chumash or Farmhouse bunker. It's easy to sell solo (just buy 75k worth of supplies) and sell in Los Santos for $210k every 2 and a half hours.

Why are you telling a player that is short of cash to buy supplies?

27 minutes ago, KazzMajol said:

 

of course i read it.    my advice is don't upgrade the paleto one at all, so you so don't flush that money down the toilet when you buy the chumash one.    but hey, wtf do i know?   cheers.   

So why did you advise buying a bunker that was outwith his price range?

 

You both have excellent points to make, but you're telling the OP what's best from your current point of view and progress in the game, not from the point of view of someone who's just starting to make money.

 

OP, you've done the right thing buying Paleto Bay, trust my advice.  I can see you're in no rush to get everything in the game as soon as possible, just grind away and spend wisely.

[KazzMajol]

@Endjinn   Allow me to answer your question with a question:   Why are you almost directly quoting a line from the "Joke Advice for New Players" thread and saying the Paleto Bay bunker is the best?   I mean, i wish i could see you, so i'd know whether you're doing it with a straight face.

Edited March 2, 2019 by KazzMajol
somebody's got sand in their gash?

[Endjinn]

9 hours ago, KazzMajol said:

@Endjinn   Allow me to answer your question with a question:   Why are you almost directly quoting a line from the "Joke Advice for New Players" thread and saying the Paleto Bay bunker is the best?   I mean, i wish i could see you, so i'd know whether you're doing it with a straight face.

Why are you getting so triggered and hostile?

 

Let me ask you this; when was the last time you (or Taterman) created a brand new character and started from scratch? I do this regularly and I have more than a little experience doing it. Buying cheap to begin with is the way to go. I'm not sure why that seems so difficult to understand.

 

Here's a real life concept you may be familiar with. By you and Taterman's reckoning, someone's first property is a waste of money and a bit of a joke; perhaps they should skip the one bedroom flat on the outskirts of town and jump straight into the 3 Bedroom Bungalow in the centre of town........

 

property ladder

a series of ascending stages by which people are perceived to progress as they are able to buy more expensive houses, the initial stage consisting of buying one’s first property.....

[Taterman]

11 hours ago, Endjinn said:

Why are you telling a player that is short of cash to buy supplies?

So why did you advise buying a bunker that was outwith his price range?

 

You both have excellent points to make, but you're telling the OP what's best from your current point of view and progress in the game, not from the point of view of someone who's just starting to make money.

 

OP, you've done the right thing buying Paleto Bay, trust my advice.  I can see you're in no rush to get everything in the game as soon as possible, just grind away and spend wisely.

Because I had to pay a lot to move mine twice. My character is upper level with a good amount of money, but if I started it over I definitely save up and wait to buy Chumash or Farmhouse right off the bat. Buy once, cry once.

Why advise him to rush in and buy a bunker he will end up trading in? And who peed in your cornflakes?

[Endjinn]

19 minutes ago, Taterman said:

Because I had to pay a lot to move mine twice. My character is upper level with a good amount of money, but if I started it over I definitely save up and wait to buy Chumash or Farmhouse right off the bat. Buy once, cry once.

Why advise him to rush in and buy a bunker he will end up trading in? And who peed in your cornflakes?

As I said, I start characters from scratch regularly. Both you and Kazzmajol have jumped on this thread and poured your guts out about what you think is the best way to make money in this game, what neither of you have done is taken UpdateHaters questions or inexperience of the game into consideration. I'm actually trying to help OP progress in the game. All your telling him to do is to make his character sit in a chair and push a button to buy supplies. What kind of experience is that going to give him? You'll be responsible for creating an inexperienced noob who will turn out to be a liability if he joins someone else's organisation to steal and deliver supplies.

 

Don't if or but about starting from scratch, do it and see for yourself. I'm not sure what you mean by "And who peed in your cornflakes?". That would give the impression that I'm getting annoyed and uppity, which I'm not. I'm giving sound advice based on years of experience of creating new characters, most of them in the past 24 months. Any 'uppitiness' or sour-faced cereal soiling lies squarely with you and Kazzmajol.

 

 

[whywontyoulisten]

14 hours ago, Endjinn said:

No, the Paleto Bay Bunker is the best one, you can move bunkers later when there's a discount on and you have more money. Kazzmajol didn't read your OP in which you stated that you only had a million to spend. They offer good advice, but for a beginner, cheapest is best in this case. That's one of the reasons I suggested only upgrading the staff and not the equipment. "you're welcome" lol

That's f*cking terrible advice. You waste so much money buying and trading in something useless at full price, simply because it was the cheapest. The best advice is to grind a little more on existing missions/work/businesses, and wait for a sale to get a decent discount on Chumash, where 3x single-drop Insurgents, 2x Phantom Wedges, and the closest monster truck sale are all achievable solo and "long distance" (obviously change sessions to get a better sale).

[Geisterfaust]

I don't see reasons not to have an office if you're playing online. Access to crates and IE business, CEO spawnable helicopters from Buzzard to Havok (need to own them first), ability to repair and spawn Pegasus vehicles via helipad, a place to get free snacks, 3 unique garages for 20 cars each with custom interiors, in-house mod shop. Nice views if you're going to choose Lombank west. 

 

With Terrorbyte office is a bit dated, but you can't have warehouses without the office, so... 

[Mach1bud]

Yes an office is worth it. Seems OP has already made a purchase however. If I were to do it again from scratch, I would definitely go straight for the Chumash Bunker as my first purchase, then buy supplies in order to get my passive income flowing in. Then after a few sales/other stuff buy an office and vehicle warehouse (opens up vehicle import/export missions). Would maybe take a week real time of casual playing but you would be a millionaire in no time. 

[Endjinn]

20 minutes ago, whywontyoulisten said:

That's f*cking terrible advice. You waste so much money buying and trading in something useless at full price, simply because it was the cheapest. The best advice is to grind a little more on existing missions/work/businesses, and wait for a sale to get a decent discount on Chumash, where 3x single-drop Insurgents, 2x Phantom Wedges, and the closest monster truck sale are all achievable solo and "long distance" (obviously change sessions to get a better sale).

My last comment was removed, probably for not contributing, properly, so I'll be more detailed.

 

The OP said quite clearly that he had a million to spend on an office. For making money without having to spend extra on other properties that's not the way to go. Buying a bunker is the way to go, and for a million the best bet is Paleto bay. The advice that you and other members are giving is for someone with experience of doing bunker sales. A new player should, under no circumstances be selling a fully stocked bunker, that's not going to go well and you know it.

 

For a new player that's in no rush and wants to buy something to make money, cheapest is best. Minimal upgrades (e.g. staff) so that a cash loss for moving isn't as hefty (remember there's an actual trade-in price for moving properties) and selling after one bar of supplies is converted to stock.

 

That's what an inexperienced player should be doing to make money. A lot of the advice that's being handed out is for later in the game when these properties can be used for maximum profit for someone who actually knows what they're doing. 

1 minute ago, Mach1bud said:

Yes an office is worth it. Seems OP has already made a purchase however. If I were to do it again from scratch, I would definitely go straight for the Chumash Bunker as my first purchase, then buy supplies in order to get my passive income flowing in. Then after a few sales/other stuff buy an office and vehicle warehouse (opens up vehicle import/export missions). Would maybe take a week real time of casual playing but you would be a millionaire in no time. 

I do this regularly Mach1bud, and I can assure you, even with years of experience making money in this game, the best way to get a foot on the ladder is to buy cheap to begin with. At the moment the OP is going to be gaining much needed experience playing and hopefully enjoying the game , which is the most important thing. He has a bunker of his own that he can play around with and a means to make money. Telling him to just wait until a later date to buy stuff isn't really helpful.

 

I don't mean to be rude, but to all of you experienced players talking about "if I were to do it from scratch.....". Do it from scratch again, put your wisdom to the test. 

 

[whywontyoulisten]

2 minutes ago, Endjinn said:

My last comment was removed, probably for not contributing, properly, so I'll be more detailed.

 

The OP said quite clearly that he had a million to spend on an office. For making money without having to spend extra on other properties that's not the way to go. Buying a bunker is the way to go, and for a million the best bet is Paleto bay. The advice that you and other members are giving is for someone with experience of doing bunker sales. A new player should, under no circumstances be selling a fully stocked bunker, that's not going to go well and you know it.

 

For a new player that's in no rush and wants to buy something to make money, cheapest is best. Minimal upgrades (e.g. staff) so that a cash loss for moving isn't as hefty (remember there's an actual trade-in price for moving properties) and selling after one bar of supplies is converted to stock.

 

That's what an inexperienced player should be doing to make money. A lot of the advice that's being handed out is for later in the game when these properties can be used for maximum profit for someone who actually knows what they're doing. 

A noob can't drive two trucks to a delivery point and change sessions if they get stuck somewhere? That's pretty insulting.

 

If you want to make money, you don't spend all your money on something that will never make enough money back to trade for a better location. The only thing worse than trying to make money out of Paleto Bay bunker is trying to make money out of Paleto Bay bunker when you have zero upgrades and no desire to get them because you want to trade it in. It's so sh*t it shouldn't even be on the map. Chumash is the only low-end bunker anyone should buy, and it's worth upgrading when you get the funds. Paleto isn't.

[Taterman]

5 minutes ago, whywontyoulisten said:

A noob can't drive two trucks to a delivery point and change sessions if they get stuck somewhere? That's pretty insulting.

 

If you want to make money, you don't spend all your money on something that will never make enough money back to trade for a better location. The only thing worse than trying to make money out of Paleto Bay bunker is trying to make money out of Paleto Bay bunker when you have zero upgrades and no desire to get them because you want to trade it in. It's so sh*t it shouldn't even be on the map. Chumash is the only low-end bunker anyone should buy, and it's worth upgrading when you get the funds. Paleto isn't.

 

Well said.

 

[Mach1bud]

16 minutes ago, Endjinn said:

I do this regularly Mach1bud, and I can assure you, even with years of experience making money in this game, the best way to get a foot on the ladder is to buy cheap to begin with. At the moment the OP is going to be gaining much needed experience playing and hopefully enjoying the game , which is the most important thing. He has a bunker of his own that he can play around with and a means to make money. Telling him to just wait until a later date to buy stuff isn't really helpful.

 

I don't mean to be rude, but to all of you experienced players talking about "if I were to do it from scratch.....". Do it from scratch again, put your wisdom to the test. 

 

I can assure you, you aren't the only person in the world to start a new character. I have as well many times and so have thousands of other people on this forum. Telling him to literally waste money isn't helpful. He has all the time in the world, the game isn't closing down anytime soon. Just save up and buy the right stuff. In the meantime he will get plenty of experience playing regular jobs. 

 

 

[Endjinn]

7 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

 Telling him to literally waste money isn't helpful. He has all the time in the world, the game isn't closing down anytime soon. Just save up and buy the right stuff. In the meantime he will get plenty of experience playing regular jobs. 

 

Exactly, all the time in the world. Why should he have to wait to buy stuff? Nobody wants to wait, he had a million he wanted to spend on a property to experience the game and make money which he is now doing. Lets wait for some input from the OP and he can tell us himself whether he thinks he's made the major mistake of buying Paleto Bay that you guys are claiming it is. 

 

This game is a grind, he's grinding and making his own money at his own pace.

Edited March 2, 2019 by Endjinn

[Mokuakae]

Well yes, but you have to be prepared to buy the other businesses afterwards. If not it's just a very high priced apartment with a fancy garage.

[Taterman]

17 minutes ago, Endjinn said:

Exactly, all the time in the world. Why should he have to wait to buy stuff?

 

[Endjinn]

13 minutes ago, Taterman said:

 

Lol, He's going to be playing this game for a while, assuming the grind doesn't make him want to kick his TV. My first property and a way of making money was a High-End apartment, much like a lot of you, and it was the best feeling having that.

 

Now the OP has something similar at a reasonable price and doesn't involve playing with randoms or waiting in heist lobbies unless he really wants to. Let's see what he has to say, if he/she wants to curse me out for bad advice, fair enough. If he's been playing regularly, he's already on his way to buying an office. Perhaps he should save up and buy Maze Tower, it is a choice location after all 

[Gridl0k]

2 words: Roof access.

[J-Scott-D]

I know everyone is arguing, but I always suggest purchasing the Lombank Office.

 

I made the mistake of being cheap on my Lezly-D account and buying the Maze Bank West one, only to get annoyed with the steps on the roof. I had to upgrade.

 

Lombank has maybe 4 steps to get on the helicopter platform. All of the others have many more. 

 

With contact missions currently being double$/RP, the OP would be better off doing those. Do as many as you can with your Buzzard to get that flying stat up and the Pegasus charge is probably cheaper than ammo costs.

 

OP, you do own a Buzzard already, right?

Edited March 2, 2019 by J-Scott-D

[Endjinn]

20 minutes ago, J-Scott-D said:

I know everyone is arguing, but I always suggest purchasing the Lombank Office.

 

TBH, I only mentioned Maze Tower as a joke, but some people have no sense of humour.

 

I always start with Maze Bank, purely for the price. I haven't actually tried Lombank.Maze Tower is my preferred choice for the rooftops as Gridlok mentioned lol. Good target practice for jets. Maze Tower is ridiculously expensive, that's something to treat yourself with when you're loaded.

[dc16a2]

2 hours a day is plenty.

 

I don't like the rune cheburek, but cars are often irrational and subjective purchases. Just get what you like. If you need the car to do something specific, then there can be somevrecommendations (for example, the armored kuruma is worthwhile to get, not much money, decently quick, and is fairly bulletproof).

 

Sell full with a friend in an empty or near empty lobby. You can do all bunker sell missions with 2 people except the one with 4 dune buggy so. Always have good situational awareness. 

 

If you watch security cameras, you don't time out of the session. I have it on sometimes when cooking, cleaning, etc.

 

Just play the game, and you will find a groove to it.