Passive players in the LSIA hangar ...

[gtafan26]

9 minutes ago, MARINA said:

How long until the money wipe would usually happen?

Well, the glitch first needs to be patched, then in the past R* likes to do wipes right before they release a Shark Card Sales push.

[Cavot]

I'm surprised this hasn't been patched yet. I thought for sure it would be at the start of this week, but I guess it won't be until sometime Tuesday. Wonder what's making it so hard for them to patch?

[HipHopHead]

I gotta say, this has brought me back to play for the past couple days.  Not because of the money aspect of it, I have enough already, but because of all the shenanigans going down at LSIA.

Edited February 26, 2019 by HipHopHead

[dino722]

I bring a kanjali, start raming in police cars and pushing them over to afk players and slowly slowly it becomes a cluster f*ck with explosions, sirens and jet carcasses...sometimes kill a few and they just zombie round outside without getting money.

[Cackling Jack]

Would be funny to see them all passive pop each other at the sane time oh man! I havent bothered with money glitches in a long time and cant be bothered by other ppl doing it. Man but what sight to see! 

[kenmy13999]

6 hours ago, MARINA said:

Either R* will money wipe or next update everything will be hella expensive.

Last updates have already been hella expensive, that's pretty much written in stone already

[Rumblebud]

2 hours ago, The Gator said:

Maybe now with people getting effortless money they’ll be able to play the game and not be slaves to the grind

That's kinda why i'm not totally against this in particular. I've been a slave of the grind for too long, R* doesn't realize some of us just don't have the time of day to put in the hours for this. And I don't sh*t money for Shark Cards either.

 

Pfft. That one mad lad on PC who spent $3,000 and got banned could've bought himself a nice ass turbocharger.

[The Notorious]

3 hours ago, MARINA said:

How long until the money wipe would usually happen?

You sound a bit too curious

Just now, The Notorious said:

You sound a bit too curious

To answer your question, there are so many people doing this glitch that R* probably won't even bother looking at bank accounts and wiping anyone. They'll just drop new content at 3x the price they had planned

[jargonaut]

2 hours ago, The Gator said:

Maybe now with people getting effortless money they’ll be able to play the game and not be slaves to the grind

 

31 minutes ago, CanadianMuscle said:

That's kinda why i'm not totally against this in particular. I've been a slave of the grind for too long, R* doesn't realize some of us just don't have the time of day to put in the hours for this. And I don't sh*t money for Shark Cards either.

 

Not trying to stir up some sh*te here, but genuinely asking: how will people finally "play the game" now that they are freed from the Grind(tm)? How will the game be different for them? What is there to do (more) that they couldn't have done before but now can? sh*t on poor grinders with the new toys they have? Do races, competing with their own Pariah or Vagner they bought months ago from one of the recurring sales selling the same vehicles already against 1-15 other Pariahs and Vagners cause everyone always has to have the fastest car? Finally being able to buy all upgraded Arena Wars cars and visit the empty modes no-one plays cause there's no need to grind, or the grind doesn't pay enough, or every single mode seems to have that one two OP vehicles and no-one uses the rest? Being able to buy all vehicles at once you never use, cause money or not, freeroam is still freeroam and it's pretty much opp vs opp vs opp vs opp vs opp.

 

I'd really love to hear how getting money to buy all content instantly will give people more reason to play the game or more possibilities, because my own personal experience has been that once you start running out of things to achieve or to accomplish, there's very little motivation to fire up the game again. Even griefers must feel some pain when there are less people to grief on. The one people I can think of being happy are ones who want freeroam to be pure non-stop pvp, but I can't even see that fun last long when glitchers and modders come ruin the fun. So please, help a brother out and explain how instacapping makes the game more appealing.

[Gdiddywilson]

(this thread)

RIP GTAO

You died 

Edited February 26, 2019 by Gdiddywilson

[White Shark]

Low level noob trying out his Oppressor for the first time with glitched money in front of his noob friends:

 

[Gdiddywilson]

I bet this glitch has been in the code for a long time and it just look this long to accidentally find. There must be a billion different coding quirks that no one knows to look for. Disasters just waiting to explode. A lot like life. Well, mine at least

[Standard Deluxe 59]

1 hour ago, jargonaut said:

 

 

Not trying to stir up some sh*te here, but genuinely asking: how will people finally "play the game" now that they are freed from the Grind(tm)? How will the game be different for them? What is there to do (more) that they couldn't have done before but now can? sh*t on poor grinders with the new toys they have? Do races, competing with their own Pariah or Vagner they bought months ago from one of the recurring sales selling the same vehicles already against 1-15 other Pariahs and Vagners cause everyone always has to have the fastest car? Finally being able to buy all upgraded Arena Wars cars and visit the empty modes no-one plays cause there's no need to grind, or the grind doesn't pay enough, or every single mode seems to have that one two OP vehicles and no-one uses the rest? Being able to buy all vehicles at once you never use, cause money or not, freeroam is still freeroam and it's pretty much opp vs opp vs opp vs opp vs opp.

 

I'd really love to hear how getting money to buy all content instantly will give people more reason to play the game or more possibilities, because my own personal experience has been that once you start running out of things to achieve or to accomplish, there's very little motivation to fire up the game again. Even griefers must feel some pain when there are less people to grief on. The one people I can think of being happy are ones who want freeroam to be pure non-stop pvp, but I can't even see that fun last long when glitchers and modders come ruin the fun. So please, help a brother out and explain how instacapping makes the game more appealing.

For me at least it was all about being able to get the cars I wanted the day they came out and own multiple iterations of them as garage space allows. It was quicker and easier to just sell a couple X80s to buy whatever car just came out than it would've been dealing with crates, chasing enemies around the map with certain gunrunning sales, dealing with the terminator "never miss" Sultans of death or even worse air freight sales. Contact missions while fun get boring after I've been doing them for an hour. Essentially it's like not having to waste hours on end of my life just so I can afford a new overpriced car, I think that is what the guy you quoted meant by free from the grind. Yeah I mainly stick to invite only sessions and can't speak for everyone that does these kinds of glitches but when even regular cars are costing more than a large full warehouse of crates is worth? There's something wrong. I don't have the time to spend all day long grinding money legitimately in this game. All I wanna do is drive around in one of my many cars, and if one comes out that I like it's nice to have the luxury of switching characters and selling x80s than doing the (in my opinion) soul crushing crate collecting. Hopefully this clears it up a little as to why people glitch their money. 

Of course I could just be an outlier in a sea of thousands since the primary reason I even played this game's online portion was for the cars. I don't care much for free roam PvP, it's a waste of money to me even if it's illegitimately gained. 

Edited February 26, 2019 by Standard Deluxe 59
Forgot some thoughts

[jargonaut]

10 minutes ago, Standard Deluxe 59 said:

For me at least it was all about being able to get the cars I wanted the day they came out and own multiple iterations of them as garage space allows. It was quicker and easier to just sell a couple X80s to buy whatever car just came out than it would've been dealing with crates, chasing enemies around the map with certain gunrunning sales, dealing with the terminator "never miss" Sultans of death or even worse air freight sales. Contact missions while fun get boring after I've been doing them for an hour. Essentially it's like not having to waste hours on end of my life just so I can afford a new overpriced car, I think that is what the guy you quoted meant by free from the grind. Yeah I mainly stick to invite only sessions and can't speak for everyone that does these kinds of glitches but when even regular cars are costing more than a large full warehouse of crates is worth? There's something wrong. I don't have the time to spend all day long grinding money legitimately in this game. All I wanna do is drive around in one of my many cars, and if one comes out that I like it's nice to have the luxury of switching characters and selling x80s than doing the (in my opinion) soul crushing crate collecting. Hopefully this clears it up a little as to why people glitch their money. 

Of course I could just be an outlier in a sea of thousands since the primary reason I even played this game's online portion was for the cars. I don't care much for free roam PvP, it's a waste of money to me even if it's illegitimately gained. 

So in short, for you the main motivation to play the game is to drive new cars an in invite only session? I can appreciate that, no question, but doesn't quite sound like what the majority of players play GtaO for. I mean, there isn't much gameplay there. But if that's enough for you and most of modes etc doesn't tickle your fancy, I guess for you instacapping is a good thing.

[Rumblebud]

Now this is what you call "passive income."

[Standard Deluxe 59]

2 minutes ago, jargonaut said:

So in short, for you the main motivation to play the game is to drive new cars an in invite only session? I can appreciate that, no question, but doesn't quite sound like what the majority of players play GtaO for. I mean, there isn't much gameplay there. But if that's enough for you and most of modes etc doesn't tickle your fancy, I guess for you instacapping is a good thing.

Pretty much, I'll still do missions and such especially at double money. Honestly if the payouts were ore in line with the inflation this game experienced over the last five years I'd probably be less inclined to glitch. Like I said though I'm probably also a bit of an outlier when it comes to money glitchers.

[EkaSwede]

One thing that pisses me off is that R* will probably money wipe the PC players for no god damn reason and leave the console players alone.

[Mr.Smith187]

2 hours ago, jargonaut said:

 

 

Not trying to stir up some sh*te here, but genuinely asking: how will people finally "play the game" now that they are freed from the Grind(tm)? How will the game be different for them? What is there to do (more) that they couldn't have done before but now can? sh*t on poor grinders with the new toys they have? Do races, competing with their own Pariah or Vagner they bought months ago from one of the recurring sales selling the same vehicles already against 1-15 other Pariahs and Vagners cause everyone always has to have the fastest car? Finally being able to buy all upgraded Arena Wars cars and visit the empty modes no-one plays cause there's no need to grind, or the grind doesn't pay enough, or every single mode seems to have that one two OP vehicles and no-one uses the rest? Being able to buy all vehicles at once you never use, cause money or not, freeroam is still freeroam and it's pretty much opp vs opp vs opp vs opp vs opp.

 

I'd really love to hear how getting money to buy all content instantly will give people more reason to play the game or more possibilities, because my own personal experience has been that once you start running out of things to achieve or to accomplish, there's very little motivation to fire up the game again. Even griefers must feel some pain when there are less people to grief on. The one people I can think of being happy are ones who want freeroam to be pure non-stop pvp, but I can't even see that fun last long when glitchers and modders come ruin the fun. So please, help a brother out and explain how instacapping makes the game more appealing.

I'll attempt... not so much to explain how instacapping makes it better, but how it can help certain players. Keep in mind there are many different players in game, in search of different types of satisfaction from it. And also know that this is just my own perspective, and I'm aware that some will agree and some will not, some will see my point and some wont.

Personally, I like the thrill of the game. I do play to earn, for obvious reasons, but I also like HOW you earn... or at least, some of the ways. I'm generally a solo player. I don't mean in a solo lobby, because that's just boring... I mean solo as in working alone. I dont really have any friends that play GTA, and I'm not fond of talking on a mic. I will do a lot of CEO or MC work for people when they offer to hire ( I guess mercenary style), but I dont talk or listen to party chat. Sometimes it works... surprisingly well actually... and sometimes it doesn't. And if it doesn't, then whatever. I bail and roll solo. Basically, I just like to do GTA for what it is... For me, the action IS the juice, and the purpose of the job and all the mayhem that comes with it is the payoff, along with the money.

The problem is that, between the people who can afford mass amounts of shark cards, the people who have so much time to play on their hands that they have legit millions, (and all the toys that come with that), and all the money glitchers who have everything they need to grief regular players, amid the stupidly low payouts for legit jobs and insanely high prices of the above mentioned toys (and getting even higher with each DLC),  it's pretty damn hard for someone like me to stay ahead of the game and operate on a somewhat level playing field. I'm not saying all the wealthy players who have everything are grievers, but the undeniable fact is that many are... probably a higher percentage than not. So, if someone in my position were to get an opportunity to supercharge their bank account, or instacap as you put it, by glitching or whatever, then I can TOTALLY see how it would work in their favor. 

 

I myself am too scared and paranoid to glitch. Never have... I don't want the blowback (money wipes, bad sport, possible ban, etc.)... but I wish like hell I wasn't afraid of it, because if I had the ability to bring in millions overnight then I totally would. It would then even the playing field, and I would still play correctly for the thrill of it. Hell, I might even go so far as to grief the grievers lol.

 

Anyway, that's my take on it.

Edited February 26, 2019 by Mr.Smith187

[Volganor]

21 minutes ago, EkaSwede said:

One thing that pisses me off is that R* will probably money wipe the PC players for no god damn reason and leave the console players alone.

I've been thinking about this as well.

 

Watching this from the sidelines, as a PC player myself, all I can think is "alright, now how will PC players pay for this?" - because that always seems to be their way of solving things of this nature.

 

If such a thing happens, I don't need any more reasons not to give Rockstar any more money, ever again. The dark ages of 2017 of the single-player modding murder attempt, multiple random ban waves and legit money wipes (that affected me as well) is still well alive in my mind.

Edited February 26, 2019 by Volganor

[Nick1020]

I considered getting gta again after hearing about this. Glad people are abusing this. Just hope R* don’t end up correcting accounts. 

[BLeonard]

26 minutes ago, Standard Deluxe 59 said:

Pretty much, I'll still do missions and such especially at double money. Honestly if the payouts were ore in line with the inflation this game experienced over the last five years I'd probably be less inclined to glitch. Like I said though I'm probably also a bit of an outlier when it comes to money glitchers.

 

Yet, there currently IS double money being offered on the Doomsday Heists and I spent a fair amount of time waiting for ONE PERSON to join an Act 1 Finale with me earlier today.  Found plenty of people in the hangar, though.

 

I know you only speak for you, but as basically a day 1 GTAO player, I'm pretty confident in saying that many people that glitch money don't want to "play the game" in any way that it was actually intended to be played.

 

You're SUPPOSED to work your way up from the moment you walk off the plane with nothing more than the clothes on your back and the pistol that Lamar hands you.  It was much MUCH harder to make money in the early days of GTAO than it is now, so, as far as I'm concerned, anyone complaining about "the grind" simply doesn't want to play the game the way it was meant to be played.  They want to play as Veruca Salt and scream "I want it NOW" about anything and everything the game has to offer.  Then, they wonder why they're bored 20 minutes after a new update drops.

 

Piggybacking on what jargonaut said, if they haven't figured out how to make enough money to "play the game" the way they want after 5 years, I don't think the money they glitch on this go-around is gonna help them very much, either.

 

They may not get to keep it, or even get to keep playing, for that matter.

Edited February 26, 2019 by BLeonard

[halapeno71]

I haven't been doing it.  I have no moral or ethical problem with the idea and certainly don't begrudge other players for wanting to take advantage of it while it's here.  

 

But I don't play in populated lobbies and I don't race or do anything else in the game that involves other players.  So, what nifty items another player might have and how they got it-- whether they grinded for weeks to get it, or glitched the money for it overnight is immaterial to me.  I don't care because it doesn't affect me and I will never see you anyway.  I'm only ever in a populated lobby for however long it takes to NAT out to a public solo session.

 

As masochistic as it might sound, I actually enjoy the grind.  Although strictly speaking, it's not the grind that I enjoy but the feeling of accomplishment I get when I've hit whatever goal I set for myself.  And that's a feeling I know I can't get if the money were to just fall into my lap.  More than likely, I'll just end up quitting out of boredom.

 

Even these login bonuses that we periodically get from R*--  I have to head-canon these as contractual bonuses from Sercuoserve that they award me with from time to time for being a good little helicopter assassin.  I have to rationalize how my character got that money.

 

 

 

 

[jargonaut]

Thanks for input so far!

 

The point behind my question, to put it more clearly, is what would be left to play, if we remove the grind (need to earn money) from the game. Sure, we can drive our fancy cars around the map, we can do a contact mission or a heist here and there, we can hunt for records or kifflom tattoos, but what would people do in the game if everyone had enough money for everything? Would anyone run businesses for long? Would anyone play missions or modes much when there's nothing there to award them, aside to getting ticks to wins? CEO work, MC missions? All old freemode work, missions and businesses with their steal and sale missions have become horribly unbalanced with Gunrunning, Smugglers and After Hours add-ons, so much so that no teaming up "us" against "them" in a session would be enough to make sense to have any meaningful team pvp when "they" only need to spam'n'land a rocket or two to whatever target to win. Races and vehicle classes have shaped up so that people would race with the same old best cars in each race. Where would be the personal reward, and get ready to puke, sense of achievement. As I said in earlier post, I can appreciate players who just want to chill and drive around, or do car meet-ups or just duck around with up'n'as and whatnots, but I still argue that GtaO would be all but dead in no time with most of player field having no need to log on time and time again to invest time to whatever bonus happens to be to score some money to be able to buy something they fancy. Without that need, a lot less people would be around to meh whatever lackluster might have dropped. 

[jargonaut]

35 minutes ago, Volganor said:

I've been thinking about this as well.

 

Watching this from the sidelines, as a PC player myself, all I can think is "alright, now how will PC players pay for this?" - because that always seems to be their way of solving things of this nature.

Honestly, this has crossed my mind too often, too. Says something about the game and its creators that one (relatively) sane even has to have thoughts like this. 

 

For me, luckily, my position and situation is very clear. I've got my money's worth and then some already. I've played straight and fair and tried to be a positive member of the player base, but should R* in their Great Wisdom(tm)(c) see fit to hammer me, I'd just thank for all the fishes and retire from the circus. They wouldn't deserve much of an afterthought from me - and they least of all, probably, would even care about it.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CanadianMuscle said:

Now this is what you call "passive income."

Yes! Very passive income. Actual income. Money in the pocket. Income!

 

(as not "passive production")

[kenmy13999]

1 hour ago, Volganor said:

I've been thinking about this as well.

 

Watching this from the sidelines, as a PC player myself, all I can think is "alright, now how will PC players pay for this?" - because that always seems to be their way of solving things of this nature.

 

If such a thing happens, I don't need any more reasons not to give Rockstar any more money, ever again. The dark ages of 2017 of the single-player modding murder attempt, multiple random ban waves and legit money wipes (that affected me as well) is still well alive in my mind.

It apparently works on pc also so going by past history, this is much likely what will happen

[White Shark]

58 minutes ago, halapeno71 said:

I haven't been doing it.  I have no moral or ethical problem with the idea and certainly don't begrudge other players for wanting to take advantage of it while it's here.  

 

But I don't play in populated lobbies and I don't race or do anything else in the game that involves other players.  So, what nifty items another player might have and how they got it-- whether they grinded for weeks to get it, or glitched the money for it overnight is immaterial to me.  I don't care because it doesn't affect me and I will never see you anyway.  I'm only ever in a populated lobby for however long it takes to NAT out to a public solo session.

 

As masochistic as it might sound, I actually enjoy the grind.  Although strictly speaking, it's not the grind that I enjoy but the feeling of accomplishment I get when I've hit whatever goal I set for myself.  And that's a feeling I know I can't get if the money were to just fall into my lap.  More than likely, I'll just end up quitting out of boredom.

 

Even these login bonuses that we periodically get from R*--  I have to head-canon these as contractual bonuses from Sercuoserve that they award me with from time to time for being a good little helicopter assassin.  I have to rationalize how my character got that money.

 

 

 

 

I love your mindset! It's the same as mine.

[Volganor]

43 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

It apparently works on pc also so going by past history, this is much likely what will happen

Oh, really? Last I heard it didn't. I guess that, in this case, it's a brace for impact.

 

And, like how @jargonaut said above, it speaks volumes about the developer when you fear for your account's fate due to Rockstar's previous historial of incompetence.

[kenmy13999]

1 minute ago, Volganor said:

Oh, really? Last I heard it didn't. I guess that, in this case, it's a brace for impact.

 

And, like how @jargonaut said above, it speaks volumes about the developer when you fear for your account's fate due to Rockstar's previous historial of incompetence.

It didn't at first from my understanding but checked the thread on 7sins and apparently they got it working, timing is different than console or something like that 

[Gridl0k]

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