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Workaround for lifeless worlds.


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For the last 5 days I have been put into worlds devoid of life.  I figured i would try last night and see what happens.  I discovered that if you join a session with someone who is in one of these Red dead Redemption clubs, more times than not, I get put into a working server.  For anyone experiencing dead worlds, give this a try.  You should still be able to play until R* figures out a permanent fix. 

 

Note-Once you enter a working world, you cant jump servers.  Don't do story missions as it can lag out out of the session. Stranger missions and all npcs work as they should. Hope this helps. 

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I'm not saying this is your problem 

I understand people are running into this issue ..

But

One of my rough riders was having the exact same issue (ps4pro)(fiber wired connection)

This went on for a couple days where he was ready to just stop playing 

I told him to reset his modem . 

Worked..because the last 2 day's we've logged in 12 hours ..not 1 issue ...

 

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Not 1 "major" issue 

 

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Just now, TheShift said:

I'm not saying this is your problem 

I understand people are running into this issue ..

But

One of my rough riders was having the exact same issue (ps4pro)(fiber wired connection)

This went on for a couple days where he was ready to just stop playing 

I told him to reset his modem . 

Worked..because the last 2 day's we've logged in 12 hours ..not 1 issue ...

 

 

I thought that too until I did that and it didnt work.  From what im seeing, it's an xbox problem, and it has something to do with the US servers.  I joined people on the EU server and game works fine.  Joining within my region doesnt work.  After a week of no help from R*, and some community members that are sick of waiting.  No one knows if the update on the 26th will fix this.

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Modem reset didn't work for me, that's for sure. EU player here on PS4 I can assure you it is not a xbox only problem. Btw, I tried pretty much everythin possible to get the game back working. So are these clubs you speak of the equivalent of playstation communities ?

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Just now, ThaBirdCoot said:

Modem reset didn't work for me, that's for sure. EU player here on PS4 I can assure you it is not a xbox only problem. Btw, I tried pretty much everythin possible to get the game back working. So are these clubs you speak of tje equivalent of playstation communities ?

I am not 100 percent sure as I am on xbox.  Every time I would join a free roam via club member, I had success.  Maybe ps4 has something similar.

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It actually worked man, I joined my friend trough the PS4 community we created a while back, did it straight away from my home screen. It was a long loading but when I spawned in there were animals, peds, carts & coaches and most importantly frigging stranger missions WORKED ! Thanks for the tip very helpful ! 

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39 minutes ago, ThaBirdCoot said:

It actually worked man, I joined my friend trough the PS4 community we created a while back, did it straight away from my home screen. It was a long loading but when I spawned in there were animals, peds, carts & coaches and most importantly frigging stranger missions WORKED ! Thanks for the tip very helpful ! 

I am glad to hear it worked for you.  Spread the word.  I noticed griefing was non existent because most people just want to be in a game world.  For those of you who read this, don't mess with people right now.  They've had a rough couple of days.  Help them out until there is a permanent fix.

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39 minutes ago, Frykill said:

I am glad to hear it worked for you.  Spread the word.  I noticed griefing was non existent because most people just want to be in a game world.  For those of you who read this, don't mess with people right now.  They've had a rough couple of days.  Help them out until there is a permanent fix.

Yeah, there wasn't a lot going on, not many agressive players, but unfortunately I got disconnected when 3 guys spawned in nearby and started shooting up Rhodes, but at least I was able to do a few things in my usual routine.

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Just now, ThaBirdCoot said:

Yeah, there wasn't a lot going on, not many agressive players, but unfortunately I got disconnected when 3 guys spawned in nearby and started shooting up Rhodes, but at least I was able to do a few things in my usual routine.

That sucks.  I'll try to refine it.

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Didn't notice any difference when joining through a PS4 community. Tried a couple of different sessions this way but the main bugs remained the same.

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8 hours ago, DonnieVega said:

Didn't notice any difference when joining through a PS4 community. Tried a couple of different sessions this way but the main bugs remained the same.

That‘s because this bug occurs completely randomly and afaik there‘s no way to reproduce it rn, which means there‘s no way to test workarounds .

 

op was just lucky imo.

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randomly, as in the same way treasure maps drops from a hideout I suppose...

 

but let's be real for a sec, there is a whole wagon of bugs right now, coincidentally all this is happening just before the update and in between the xp event, the fact you haven't run into it doesn't make it any less real or inconvenient to us. I genuinely like your feedback @rusbeckia but it seems like you are just taking the piss right now. 

 

edit: am I being to sensible ? I don't know if I can differentiate between all the banter and sarcasm on this forum anymore, so maybe it's because I had a couple too much drinks with muh boy Leeeny.. 

Just saying OP's method allowed me to play the game as intended for the first time in 5 days sooo, was it a fluke ? mmmh... only R* knows for sure.

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I joined a community and it did work indeed! but there was a lot of activity in session(s) and people wouldn't let me do my thing without attacking me, ALL THE TIME....very annoying.

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6 hours ago, ThaBirdCoot said:

randomly, as in the same way treasure maps drops from a hideout I suppose...

 

but let's be real for a sec, there is a whole wagon of bugs right now, coincidentally all this is happening just before the update and in between the xp event, the fact you haven't run into it doesn't make it any less real or inconvenient to us. I genuinely like your feedback @rusbeckia but it seems like you are just taking the piss right now. 

 

edit: am I being to sensible ? I don't know if I can differentiate between all the banter and sarcasm on this forum anymore, so maybe it's because I had a couple too much drinks with muh boy Leeeny.. 

Just saying OP's method allowed me to play the game as intended for the first time in 5 days sooo, was it a fluke ? mmmh... only R* knows for sure.

Maybe joining community members works for you because you‘re joining a different countries server? 

Would be an idea to further test this. Like if you‘re in the EU at evening/night it might help to change to a US server, which is probably less populated at that time! 

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1 hour ago, rusbeckia said:

Maybe joining community members works for you because you‘re joining a different countries server? 

Would be an idea to further test this. Like if you‘re in the EU at evening/night it might help to change to a US server, which is probably less populated at that time! 

I believe this to be true.  I know I was on the EU server simply because it sounded classy.  It could simply be an issue with the US servers.  Rockstar hasnt addressed it as far as I know.

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On X1 here and finding/joining someone in my recent players list, that was currently playing RDO, allowed me to join a normal server with wildlife, my horse and stranger missions that actually work.

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recent players is kinda sh*tty on PS4 and doesn't update after a long time but I see this could work too, I had a 100 % success rate with joining trough communities on Playstation, but each time I went into online from the menu on my own I had:

 

- no pedestrians, wagons, carts

- strangers bugged

- gang hideouts glitched

- quick join story missions stuck in loading

- little, to no animals

- vendors/shopkeepers inactive (don't know what else to call it)

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On 2/24/2019 at 2:42 PM, Frykill said:

From what im seeing, it's an xbox problem, and it has something to do with the US servers.  I joined people on the EU server and game works fine.  Joining within my region doesnt work.

 

Can you explain what you mean by this? As far as I am aware, there is no option whatsoever to choose which "region" of server to join. Also, I am pretty sure they are AGAIN using P2P servers like with GTA. That would certainly explain the random disconnections and half the lobby leaving at once.

I am on Xbox and never once had this "lifeless world" bug, not yet anyway...
 

But the main point here is that there is no way to choose which region you join, it's completely random...

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Can you explain what you mean by this? As far as I am aware, there is no option whatsoever to choose which "region" of server to join. Also, I am pretty sure they are AGAIN using P2P servers like with GTA. That would certainly explain the random disconnections and half the lobby leaving at once.

I am on Xbox and never once had this "lifeless world" bug, not yet anyway...
 

But the main point here is that there is no way to choose which region you join, it's completely random...

I was a member of a couple red dead redemption 2 clubs. Once you are a member, you direct join a member from the clubs page.  I've been put in every server but the US.  Usually language is the first indication I'm not in Kansas anymore.  Either way, this is the only way I have been able to play in the last week.  

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^thanks a lot mate, again, for me the game wouldn't be playable right now (in a satisfied way) if it wasn't for your suggestion.

 

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40 minutes ago, Frykill said:

I was a member of a couple red dead redemption 2 clubs. Once you are a member, you direct join a member from the clubs page.  I've been put in every server but the US.  Usually language is the first indication I'm not in Kansas anymore.  Either way, this is the only way I have been able to play in the last week.  

 

OK, but language doesn't mean anything. You could have 10 different nationalities in one lobby, because everyone gets put into a random lobby. This is the same as GTA. There are no "Europe" servers or "Australia" servers, there is only servers. There is no indication in the game at all which region the server is. I realise that some games, Rocket League for example, do have these region specific servers, but not every game does. GTAO is P2P matchmaking (which is terrible) and looking at RDO, one has to assume it is the same.


Yes you can join a club member from the group page, but you are just joining the lobby that they are currently connected to. And in that lobby they may have invited their own friends who also speak the same language. The game doesn't have any kind of region specificity, so I'm unsure why you're saying you have been put into every lobby except US. Where did the game tell you what region the server was that you were joining? It doesn't...

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47 minutes ago, Pressure Drop said:

 

OK, but language doesn't mean anything. You could have 10 different nationalities in one lobby, because everyone gets put into a random lobby. This is the same as GTA. There are no "Europe" servers or "Australia" servers, there is only servers. There is no indication in the game at all which region the server is. I realise that some games, Rocket League for example, do have these region specific servers, but not every game does. GTAO is P2P matchmaking (which is terrible) and looking at RDO, one has to assume it is the same.


Yes you can join a club member from the group page, but you are just joining the lobby that they are currently connected to. And in that lobby they may have invited their own friends who also speak the same language. The game doesn't have any kind of region specificity, so I'm unsure why you're saying you have been put into every lobby except US. Where did the game tell you what region the server was that you were joining? It doesn't...

Okay, so all of that, I don't care about.  I wasnt able to play for a week, this worked for me, don't ask why, it just did. You may not have an issue, but many do.  If this update doesnt fix the issue we are having, then what? R* hasnt exactly said anything about it, so they may be in the dark as much as we are. If you're not having issues, lucky you, at least I'm trying something.

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13 minutes ago, Frykill said:

Okay, so all of that, I don't care about.  I wasnt able to play for a week, this worked for me, don't ask why, it just did. You may not have an issue, but many do.  If this update doesnt fix the issue we are having, then what? R* hasnt exactly said anything about it, so they may be in the dark as much as we are. If you're not having issues, lucky you, at least I'm trying something.

 

I think you're misunderstanding now, I am happy for you that this fixes the issue, my point was only that there are no region-specific servers, or ability to choose which one you join, which is what you seemed to imply. If there was this option, then I absolutely had to know about it, hence why I questioned it.

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16 minutes ago, Pressure Drop said:

 

I think you're misunderstanding now, I am happy for you that this fixes the issue, my point was only that there are no region-specific servers, or ability to choose which one you join, which is what you seemed to imply. If there was this option, then I absolutely had to know about it, hence why I questioned it.

Perhaps I am.  No one was speaking English.  Seemed like French, definitely Spanish, and Norwegian/Sweedish.  My posse seemed like the only english speaking people.  

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