v1.00 advantages?

[Sneaky Queeky]

Period not. I have to click on a link and post my own pictures again because you won't?

Clearly this is 1.0.2, the launch patch.


Clearly this is the better AO


Clearly this is the better lighting.


Clearly this is the discussion about the downgrade the week of the online update, with a link here to pictures posted by RolfStarGames

The proof is plain to see that the game was downgraded with the online update. 1.0.3.

As for the game's graphics since 1.0.3 I couldn't tell you, I refuse to upgrade. As for blurriness, the game has a small problem with blurriness on the Xbox S (my version, because it's not true 1080P) and the PS4 PRO (because it's not true 4K) but the main concern was always the dramatic downgrade of the AO with the online patch. Oh and Martston's hair

 

8 minutes ago, streaz said:

i can vouch that i’ve seen him and a lot of people agree with what you’re saying man

Why thank you. I wonder about all this confusion. Perhaps it's because it didn't really make the rounds on major gaming sites until just recently, but if you click on the link I just posted in my post above this one, you can see it became a discussion in late November.

 

No one had anything negative to say about the graphics before 1.0.3. We didn't all just suddenly notice a change that had been right in front of us. And we wouldn't have noticed it anyway, because none of us originally played on v1.00. We all played on v1.0.2 until the Online update, then a lot of people noticed a change in the graphics. It's really simple.

[SeniorDerp]

The biggest annoyance for me is that pop-in is insanely bad now, it’s gotten to the point of being a distraction if I’m riding anywhere. Only recently have I really noticed the severe downgrade in AO while wandering around St Denis at night. The screen used to get so dark in back alleys you almost couldn’t see anything but it isn’t like that anymore which feels like a kick to the nuts when you play on a OneX but everything has been dumbed down. When I finish moving I’m going to reinstall the game offline and experience it that way again.  

[LorshZontek]

Just now, SeniorDerp said:

The biggest annoyance for me is that pop-in is insanely bad now, it’s gotten to the point of being a distraction if I’m riding anywhere. Only recently have I really noticed the severe downgrade in AO while wandering around St Denis at night. The screen used to get so dark in back alleys you almost couldn’t see anything but it isn’t like that anymore which feels like a kick to the nuts when you play on a OneX but everything has been dumbed down. When I finish moving I’m going to reinstall the game offline and experience it that way again.  

Downgrading was the best thing i have done, i also like how the lantern is useful now 

[streaz]

1 minute ago, LorshZontek said:

Downgrading was the best thing i have done, i also like how the lantern is useful now 

lmao same i downgraded weeks ago haven’t even thought about going back

[SeniorDerp]

This is how I remember the game when I first started playing. Amazing how dark the game used to get

21 minutes ago, SneakyDeaky said:

 

 

[LorshZontek]

Just now, SeniorDerp said:

This is how I remember the game when I first started playing. Amazing how dark the game used to get

 

The darkness was one of the first things i noticed about 1.00 

[Cutter De Blanc]

Probably 1.02 AND 1.03 downgraded the graphics. After 1.03 there was a haze in the distance that wasn't in 1.02 or 1.00

 

[LorshZontek]

28 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Probably 1.02 AND 1.03 downgraded the graphics. After 1.03 there was a haze in the distance that wasn't in 1.02 or 1.00

 

what do you mean "haze"

[Cutter De Blanc]

30 minutes ago, LorshZontek said:

what do you mean "haze"

A haze. Like a fog only less foggy

[LorshZontek]

Just now, Cutter De Blanc said:

A haze. Like a fog only less foggy

its a good way to hide low draw distance 

[Cutter De Blanc]

Just now, LorshZontek said:

its a good way to hide low draw distance 

Draw distance is pretty far in 1.00

[LorshZontek]

Just now, Cutter De Blanc said:

Draw distance is pretty far in 1.00

yeah i know just look at this  

[Sneaky Queeky]

24 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Draw distance is pretty far in 1.00

I agree with that, I think the draw distance was reduced between v1.00 and v1.02.
 

2 hours ago, SeniorDerp said:

This is how I remember the game when I first started playing. Amazing how dark the game used to get

 

Yeah, Valentine used to have a unique look. When you rode into town at midtnight it was all dark yet illuminated by all the lamps, everything had a glow to it. Now it's just kinda bright but dull.

Edited April 22, 2019 by SneakyDeaky

[Birdy22]

I also believe that the downgrade was gradual, from day one patch. The textures of the Xbox one x 1.0 are sharper in my opinion.
The biggest demotion came with the online patch.

 

[Hetraet]

I'm gonna downgrade again just for the glitches...forgot to disable automatic updates last time and I've been too lazy to install it again.

I've just found out there is a launch glitch in 1.00 that R* patched because we aren't allowed to have fun apparently. Also playable John looks less robotic in 1.00...probably the AO. It also seems that John's lvl 1 and 2 beard was changed, in 1.00 he has kinda mustachy beard exactly like he has during the SD bank heist. I also still don't f*cking get why they decided to make John's gloves into the current monstrosity and also f*cked up his pants, the pants make a big difference. But yeah, the only fun things left for me now is messing with the game physics and glitches, rdr 2 needs content and fixes asap otherwise it'll die (sp). 

I made a promise that if they butcher the game even more I'm selling this game.

Edited April 22, 2019 by Hetraet

[spoonman039]

On 4/21/2019 at 2:09 AM, Darealbandicoot said:

NPC John has the exact same model as playable John and playable John can wear NPC Johns outfits. You can see this at his wedding he wears his saint denis bank outfit which works perfectly fine. @jedijosh920 can explain further since hes a wizard with ths stuff.

well, I'm definitely sure every npc outfit are based on playable variants and works already fine, or will work fine after a bit of adjustment, that's not the problem..

 

but if something cannot be spawned in the game, it's prevented in some way, and the easiest way to do it is to move stuff to other folder, making it exclusive. if that's not true like you point out, spawning his 1899 clothes will totally be possible. but so far no one have done it.

[BoulderFaceplant]

On 4/9/2019 at 5:38 AM, Darealbandicoot said:

They only fixed the downgrades in V because they were called out immediately by big sites like Eurogamer and as such issued a statement shortly after saying they were aware of the downgrades and were fixing it.

 

It's been almost 5 months now and nobody big called them out and they haven't even acknowledged it with a statement. It's just full focus Red Dead Online. 

What we need is for Digital Foundry to do a piece on this. It would essentially be an exposé lol. And many, many people would then notice the true magnitude of the downgrades.  

[Darealbandicoot]

20 hours ago, BoulderFaceplant said:

What we need is for Digital Foundry to do a piece on this. It would essentially be an exposé lol. And many, many people would then notice the true magnitude of the downgrades.  

We've already contacted them. They're too busy they said. 

[DirtCheap]

Does anyone know if it's possible to use 1.00 if digital?

[Darealbandicoot]

41 minutes ago, DirtCheap said:

Does anyone know if it's possible to use 1.00 if digital?

On PS4? Yes. On Xbox? No

[Sneaky Queeky]

12 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

On PS4? Yes. On Xbox? No

Wait, so you can play the PS4 digital version on 1.00? I'm sure the guide has been posted here, but I only know how to do it with the physical version.

I still haven't bought a 4K TV yet even though I keep threatening to but I'm dying for a third playthrough, perhaps I could do it on my old PS4, which doesn't run discs anymore.

[T R U C I D O]

I really noticed the darkness in 1.00 when I went in the cave for the Wolf man's diary. It made the lantern more useful which I like

[Darealbandicoot]

3 hours ago, SneakyDeaky said:

Wait, so you can play the PS4 digital version on 1.00? I'm sure the guide has been posted here, but I only know how to do it with the physical version.

I still haven't bought a 4K TV yet even though I keep threatening to but I'm dying for a third playthrough, perhaps I could do it on my old PS4, which doesn't run discs anymore.

@0223998743 knows the exact steps 

[Darealbandicoot]

On 4/21/2019 at 11:04 PM, SneakyDeaky said:

Period not. I have to click on a link and post my own pictures again because you won't?

Clearly this is 1.0.2, the launch patch.


Clearly this is the better AO


Clearly this is the better lighting.


Clearly this is the discussion about the downgrade the week of the online update, with a link here to pictures posted by RolfStarGames

The proof is plain to see that the game was downgraded with the online update. 1.0.3.

As for the game's graphics since 1.0.3 I couldn't tell you, I refuse to upgrade. As for blurriness, the game has a small problem with blurriness on the Xbox S (my version, because it's not true 1080P) and the PS4 PRO (because it's not true 4K) but the main concern was always the dramatic downgrade of the AO with the online patch. Oh and Martston's hair

 

Why thank you. I wonder about all this confusion. Perhaps it's because it didn't really make the rounds on major gaming sites until just recently, but if you click on the link I just posted in my post above this one, you can see it became a discussion in late November.

 

No one had anything negative to say about the graphics before 1.0.3. We didn't all just suddenly notice a change that had been right in front of us. And we wouldn't have noticed it anyway, because none of us originally played on v1.00. We all played on v1.0.2 until the Online update, then a lot of people noticed a change in the graphics. It's really simple.

Can you  test to see if the saddle teleports to the roof of beechers hope and if the catalogue slows down in shops in 1.02?

Edited April 23, 2019 by Darealbandicoot

[DirtCheap]

5 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

On PS4? Yes. On Xbox? No

 

Wait really? How?

[GinsengElixir]

I'm a little confused. UK player here, with an X1X. I uninstalled then reinstalled offline but my version is 1.01. Is that equivalent to 1.02 in America or something?

 

I'm trying to get the best version. I wasted so many hrs trying to get my PS4 Pro version looking decent, but the interior blur is awful, and when I switched to my X version it looked so good. A shame it has been nerfed - and it definitely has - enough for me to notice and look for answers anyway.

[Sneaky Queeky]

9 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

Can you  test to see if the saddle teleports to the roof of beechers hope and if the catalogue slows down in shops in 1.02?

1. Yes, unfortunately the saddle spawns on the roof or below the house, not sure which. 
https://streamable.com/1g73d

2. The catalogue works how it always worked for me since launch, does it have lag in v1.00?
https://streamable.com/zvfpf

3. I saved near Beaver Hollow the last time I played a few weeks ago and now whenever I load this save I spawn in a camp with my horse in this cave, I'm sure your not supposed to be able to camp here but maybe I'm wrong?
https://streamable.com/i6jxw

Edited April 24, 2019 by SneakyDeaky

[Agent Edward]

I'm really confused right now... Was RDR2 downgraded even further than the RDO Patch (1.03)? Someone explain everything to me, please! Xbox One Original owner.

[RolfStarGames]

10 hours ago, Dudu RDRII said:

I'm really confused right now... Was RDR2 downgraded even further than the RDO Patch (1.03)? Someone explain everything to me, please! Xbox One Original owner.

 

v1.00 and v1.02 = Same graphics / performance.( v1.02 introduces various fixes )

v1.03 = Downgrade + better performance ( lightweight )

v1...+ = More downgrades...

 

Edited April 24, 2019 by RolfStarGames

[Cutter De Blanc]

Weight is still screwy. Just loaded my game, and the Player screen says Arthur's weight is "Perfect",  but the damage absorption and stamina drain are still 7.5% as though I were completely overweight (which I actually should be). 

 

I mean, I think fat bastard Arthur is perfect, but the game shouldn't