v1.00 advantages?

[LorshZontek]

2 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

I think we'll be disappointed. Single player hasn't been mentioned at all to be getting any love other than that prominent characters from single player are coming to Red Dead Online. Plus they ignore the downgrade claims and force feed us Red Dead Online sh*t. Only hope is the PC version. 

lets just hope they dont delete the hash for johns hair in the pc version of the game 

[spoonman039]

28 minutes ago, LorshZontek said:

lets just hope they dont delete the hash for johns hair in the pc version of the game 

they won't delete his hair because 1899 (npc) John has it, so in that case they would have to change it to one of Arthur's hair models, or something else, and I'm sure they won't touch npc John.. also, some other npcs has the same haircut, so modders just need to take it from them and put on the hair model. it's not so hard, we just need openiv and 3dsmax support.

[Darealbandicoot]

21 hours ago, BallinBallas said:

Arthur’s standard bandolier is non-existent in V1.00 for me. I can only get the black one at the gunsmith & the ones at the trapper. 

That's weird. It's in my 1.00 save. 

[Koltos]

Yeah, i don't have bandolier too in my 1.00 (xbox one x)

[siłky]

 

On 3/4/2019 at 2:24 PM, 0223998743 said:

1.01 was apparently removed from the servers; if your game is digital you can get the 1.02 but you will need the link for it (this is related to the pogram used to downgrade digital games).

 

In any case if you want the perfect version I would say go for the unpatched game, the 1.00.

 

I can send you a PM if you want to do it, that is if you have the game in digital.

I created an account just to ask for you to PM me the link to downgrade digitally please. 

 

I’m sick and tired of playing a downgraded game.

[7th Ward Charizard]

3 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

That's weird. It's in my 1.00 save. 

yeah, this is the second save on v1.00 it’s happened on for me. It’s strange lol 

[Cutter De Blanc]

Just to be sure, you guys bought it from the general store, right? I still have the regular bandolier 

[7th Ward Charizard]

38 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Just to be sure, you guys bought it from the general store, right? I still have the regular bandolier 

It only had the upgraded one for sale 

[T R U C I D O]

Changed my mind about Guarma, I really like that part of the game now. It definitely grows on you.

Longer shootouts are always a good thing, and it's something the game needed due to its slower pace

[Darealbandicoot]

23 hours ago, spoonman039 said:

they won't delete his hair because 1899 (npc) John has it, so in that case they would have to change it to one of Arthur's hair models, or something else, and I'm sure they won't touch npc John.. also, some other npcs has the same haircut, so modders just need to take it from them and put on the hair model. it's not so hard, we just need openiv and 3dsmax support.

For the player though it might be disabled. For example the game doesn't let the player play as anyone else besides Arthur or Playable John no matter what. They also completely disabled the scalp for the player with patches so why not the hair? 

 

On PC it will definitely be possible but consoles are sh*t out of luck I'm afraid unless a miracle happens. 

[streaz]

2 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

For the player though it might be disabled. For example the game doesn't let the player play as anyone else besides Arthur or Playable John no matter what. They also completely disabled the scalp for the player with patches so why not the hair? 

 

On PC it will definitely be possible but consoles are sh*t out of luck I'm afraid unless a miracle happens. 

they need to pull the stick out of their ass and just add the f*cking hair lmao it’d be so easy. but instead they are f*cking over single player AND online, not even the online players are happy lol fuuuuuck rockstar

Edited April 20, 2019 by streaz

[spoonman039]

5 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

For the player though it might be disabled. For example the game doesn't let the player play as anyone else besides Arthur or Playable John no matter what. They also completely disabled the scalp for the player with patches so why not the hair? 

 

On PC it will definitely be possible but consoles are sh*t out of luck I'm afraid unless a miracle happens. 

of course it's disabled, it's not in the menu and AFAIK no one successfully spawned it through some glitch, and I believe no one will (reason in my next paragraph).

 

regarding playing with other characters, I know this is done via save editor and it makes sense that we can only play with protagonists, and also swap npcs only with another npcs..

this is the main reason why I believe 1899 John's files are not in protagonists folder, so he could be just another well detailed npc, with his ingame and cutscene model. 

 

this won't be problem on pc, because trainer doesn't have limitations save editor has. we would easily be able to spawn 1899 John in game instead of epilogue John or Arthur. but that's not the ideal thing.

what would be ideal is to copy his hair and outfits from npc model and add them to playable model, spawn them via trainer and save as custom outfits. this should work well. also, most of his stuff you can already wear, but with different texture variants (the only exeption being closed western coat, a sweater he wears in chapter one, and his yellow vest), so we just need to copy texture variants of these, or replace some we don't like. replacing would be easier, as in that case we could access them through menu, but adding should work as well, because we could just spawn them via trainer and save them as custom outfits.. this method will work to get other outfits we cannot access, like Whittmore suit, suit Arthur used when he visits Angelo Bronte, lawman outfit, Arthur's closed winter coat etc.

Edited April 20, 2019 by spoonman039

[Hetraet]

6 minutes ago, spoonman039 said:

of course it's disabled, it's not in the menu and AFAIK no one successfully spawned it through some glitch, and I believe no one will (reason in my next paragraph).

 

regarding playing with other characters, I know this is done via save editor and it makes sense that we can only play with protagonists, and also swap npcs only with another npcs..

this is the main reason why I believe 1899 John's files are not in protagonists folder, so he could be just another well detailed npc, with his ingame and cutscene model. 

 

this won't be problem on pc, because trainer doesn't have limitations save editor has. we would easily be able to spawn 1899 John in game instead of epilogue John or Arthur. but that's not the ideal thing.

what would be ideal is to copy his hair and outfits from npc model and add them to playable model, spawn them via trainer and save as custom outfits. this should work well. also, most of his stuff you can already wear, but with different texture variants (the only exeption being closed western coat and his yellow vest), so we just need to copy texture variants of these, or replace some we don't like. replacing would be easier, as in that case we could access them through menu, but adding should work as well, because we could just spawn them via trainer and save them as custom outfits.. this method will work to get other outfits we cannot access, like Whittmore suit, suit Arthur used when he visits Angelo Bronte, lawman outfit, Arthur's closed winter coat etc.

Actually I think Jedijosh pointed out that he found that John's hash is the exact same as npc John, thus making protagonist John able to wear all the npc outfits, aswell as the hair. I might be wrong tho, I just think someone pointed it out

[spoonman039]

4 minutes ago, Hetraet said:

Actually I think Jedijosh pointed out that he found that John's hash is the exact same as npc John, thus making protagonist John able to wear all the npc outfits, aswell as the hair. I might be wrong tho, I just think someone pointed it out

well, I believe he said he couldn't spawn npc John's stuff instead of epilogue John, and he successfully spawned it instead of Abigail, which basically proves my point.. I never cared how hashes work, what I do care is where the files are stored, and so far we cannot know anything about files, so this is still guessing based on how they handled gta v and gta iv on pc.

 

but there's one sole reason why I'm still not 100% sure on my theory and it's in this video https://youtu.be/Fink6VEqr4Y?t=115

around 1:55 we can see John wears pants from a flashback scene from a mission "A new Jerusalem", in which he also has his og hair. this might be one of "npc stuff", as these pants clips through his legs, so maybe npc stuff are indeed in the same folder as protagonists stuff..

but also, there's posibility only these pants are in protagonists model and that flashback scene was pre-rendered (just a video) which was made around the time John stil did has his hair, just like with pre-release screenshots.

 

[Darealbandicoot]

41 minutes ago, spoonman039 said:

well, I believe he said he couldn't spawn npc John's stuff instead of epilogue John, and he successfully spawned it instead of Abigail, which basically proves my point.. I never cared how hashes work, what I do care is where the files are stored, and so far we cannot know anything about files, so this is still guessing based on how they handled gta v and gta iv on pc.

 

but there's one sole reason why I'm still not 100% sure on my theory and it's in this video https://youtu.be/Fink6VEqr4Y?t=115

around 1:55 we can see John wears pants from a flashback scene from a mission "A new Jerusalem", in which he also has his og hair. this might be one of "npc stuff", as these pants clips through his legs, so maybe npc stuff are indeed in the same folder as protagonists stuff..

but also, there's posibility only these pants are in protagonists model and that flashback scene was pre-rendered (just a video) which was made around the time John stil did has his hair, just like with pre-release screenshots.

 

NPC John has the exact same model as playable John and playable John can wear NPC Johns outfits. You can see this at his wedding he wears his saint denis bank outfit which works perfectly fine. @jedijosh920 can explain further since hes a wizard with ths stuff.

Edited April 21, 2019 by Darealbandicoot

[Koltos]

New dissappointmets about 1.00 version.

 

Inside the tent you couldn't read your diary. Very frustraiting.

 

Also was funny bug in valentine. I just walking around and there are was a lot of people and suddenly many NPCs have just dissappeared. Very frustraiting too.

[LittleJesus]

1 hour ago, Koltos said:

New dissappointmets about 1.00 version.

 

Inside the tent you couldn't read your diary. Very frustraiting.

 

Also was funny bug in valentine. I just walking around and there are was a lot of people and suddenly many NPCs have just dissappeared. Very frustraiting too.

It also annoys me that every time I want to close the diary you automatically stand up, I already gave up with version 1.00 I been playing the patched version for a while and it's not that bad well at least for me.

[BobyFrançais]

if I remember correctly in 1.00, we couldn't feed the horse galloping. You had to be trotting  Someone can confirm this?  

[Koltos]

I think there are a lot of bugs on patched version too...

 

[UpTheDowngrade]

Not being able to feed your horse while galloping isn't a good enough reason to not play 1.0. It's the way the game was meant to be played.

 

[Koltos]

I think it is even unrealistic to feed your horse while galloping) 

 

There are many other reasons which are dissapointed me a little in 1.00 

But i read all this thread and i think that to play on 1.07 is the worst decision anyway)

 

 

[UpTheDowngrade]

I haven't had any annoying glitches happen to me in 1.0.. I started a new game, didn't continue from my 1.06/7 saves. Not sure if that has anything to do with it.

[tobdog]

For some reasons, I don't have Grizzlies Outlaw neckerchief in 1.00 version.

[Sneaky Queeky]

2 hours ago, UpTheDowngrade said:

Not being able to feed your horse while galloping isn't a good enough reason to not play 1.0. It's the way the game was meant to be played.

 

You can't feed your horse while galloping in 1.0.2 either BTW. 1.0.3 should have been the patch to fix all this instead it downgraded the game.

[UpTheDowngrade]

^Anything after 1.0 has the visual downgrades FYI

[Sneaky Queeky]

7 minutes ago, UpTheDowngrade said:

^Anything after 1.0 has the visual downgrades FYI

No, it was the 1.03 patch, the Online update in late November. We've been through this on this very thread at least twice.
 

The graphical downgrade, especially the AO, was downgraded in patch v1.0.3. I play on 1.0.2 right now and have been since launch, and I clearly have the better graphics.

Edited April 21, 2019 by SneakyDeaky

[UpTheDowngrade]

No, it wasnt. It was 1.0  why do you think we've been saying the reviewers got a different copy of the game essentially? It was downgraded in the day one patch.

Why are we even playing 1.0 if it's the same state as 1.02? Use your head.

[Sneaky Queeky]

4 minutes ago, UpTheDowngrade said:

No, it wasnt. It was 1.0  why do you think we've been saying the reviewers got a different copy of the game essentially? It was downgraded in the day one patch.

Why are we even playing 1.0 if it's the same state as 1.02? Use your head.

LMFAO. Did you even read the link I gave you? Did you even read this thread? Or perhaps the threads at the time we started talking about these downgrades, months before it became news on gaming sites? Clearly NOT. I've played on 1.00, 1.0.2. and 1.0.3, I know what I'm talking about and have posted the proof in this thread and so have others, in this thread and other threads.

I'm sure someone like Darealbandicoot will vouch for what I'm saying, not that I need validating.

[UpTheDowngrade]

I have hundreds of screenshots taken from 1.02 through 1.06 and when I compare to my 1.0 screenshots, I can clearly see a difference. The day one patch-1.6 are very blurry, and the textures aren't as good. It was downgraded in 1.2 period.

 

[streaz]

8 minutes ago, SneakyDeaky said:

LMFAO. Did you even read the link I gave you? Did you even read this thread? Or perhaps the threads at the time we started talking about these downgrades, months before it became news on gaming sites? Clearly NOT. I've played on 1.00, 1.0.2. and 1.0.3, I know what I'm talking about and have posted the proof in this thread and so have others, in this thread and other threads.

I'm sure someone like Darealbandicoot will vouch for what I'm saying, not that I need validating.

i can vouch that i’ve seen him and a lot of people agree with what you’re saying man