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AnthMUFC-Champs

A Theory on Chapter 5

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Dark Rosewood Varnish
On 2/9/2019 at 9:05 PM, RyuNova said:

Also the hot arid climate would not have done Arthur any favours would it? We see what happened to him from Guarma.

 

It actually would have helped him. Even in the scene where he gets diagnosed the doctor mentions he should head out west to somewhere hot and dry. 

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RyuNova
1 minute ago, Dark Rosewood Varnish said:

 

It actually would have helped him. Even in the scene where he gets diagnosed the doctor mentions he should head out west to somewhere hot and dry. 

 

I know I realised that a bit after I had typed it.

Still it just lends credence to the idea that we were supposed to go to New Austin.

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Dan390
4 hours ago, Dark Rosewood Varnish said:

 

It actually would have helped him. Even in the scene where he gets diagnosed the doctor mentions he should head out west to somewhere hot and dry. 

might be hot in Guarma but definitely not dry, it has very lush vegetation

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Hmmm nice bike
18 minutes ago, Dan390 said:

might be hot in Guarma but definitely not dry, it has very lush vegetation 

 

5 hours ago, RyuNova said:

 

I know I realised that a bit after I had typed it.

Still it just lends credence to the idea that we were supposed to go to New Austin.

Guarma definitely wouldn't have helped him. If it was off of Cuba, then it's going to be a hot and extremely humid/sticky climate, not arid and dry like New Austin. Chances are, being in Guarma made Arthur's TB complications even worse, and when he returns from there is when things definitely worsen for him. His coughing also first shows up when he goes to Lemoyne and Saint Denis, another humid place. He probably had latent TB inside of him in New Hanover and it was dormant, being in Lemoyne "activated" it, and Guarma worsened it.

 

New Austin wouldn't have cured him, but the climate would have quelled his symptoms at least a little. I still think that New Austin was probably going to be after Guarma.

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Posted (edited)

Thanks for your insightful input @Hmmm nice bike and to all the other contributions that have been posted by other members in this topic. I have been researching a bit more and some people on Reddit were touching upon a theory which I pieced together that perhaps Red Dead Redemption 2 intended to start in Blackwater and New Austin as opposed to where it did in the actual release. Many denounced the "chapter five" theory as they thought the notion of the Van de Linde gang "running away from the west" didn't fit this narrative. There is also a cutscene in chapter three where Dutch and Horsea mention "scouting camp locations in New Austin and the Red Dead Wiki website references that this was a fallback option in case the ferry robbery did not go to plan. As for John mentioning in the original Red Dead Redemption that "the gang had not been to New Austin", he could of just been lying about that possibly? I mean if he had been associated with a bloody massacre in a town near the state it might be possible he just doesn't want people to make that connection. Interesting theory either way and I wouldn't mind seeing this as single player DLC content as way to make use of the unused areas of the map. I'm not sure where Mexico fits into this narrative though.

Edited by AnthMUFC-Champs

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Hmmm nice bike

With that theory in mind, then it's really hard to guess where New Austin would have been featured in the story. I still feel like it would have been sometime after Guarma. If New Austin was the prologue (which is what I think you're referencing), it would have been a jarring change to go from a desert environment to the snowy mountains.

 

Also, even if going further west after Guarma would make no sense, neither does going back to Lemoyne where they're all wanted dead or alive. Dutch's logic wasn't exactly sound, and I could see him saying this was all part of his plan. And it'd make more sense for them to go out of their way and arrive someplace west while waiting for the commotion in Saint Denis after the failed robbery to die down.

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On 3/3/2019 at 6:55 AM, Dark Rosewood Varnish said:

 

It actually would have helped him. Even in the scene where he gets diagnosed the doctor mentions he should head out west to somewhere hot and dry. 

Which was probably foreshadowing now that I think of it

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