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Unpopular Opinions about RDR2

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John's haircut
2 hours ago, McBando said:

Money is pointless, can only buy clothes and guns basically. the cigar/cigarette smoking is horrendous and only a mouth breathing trogladyte would approve of it, your guy smokes for less than 5 seconds. only one hit, why not have X/A to take hits of it however long you want? GTA online had that feature, absolutely bonkers. Also no bank robbing in free roam, robocops, people are instantly aware your arthur/john even when wearing masks/banadanas. 

 

what the heck were they thinking 7/10

You can hold and press to smoke online, they added it with an update 🙃

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Dark Rosewood Varnish

I still think the weather in this game is among it's biggest flaws. Not the actual weather effects because they all look fine but just the erratic changes and unrealistic frequency of rain you get in certain parts of the map.

 

I just feel in Lemoyne, New Austin and the Great Plains section of WE it rains way too much. In these parts of the map I just want prolonged and consistent sunshine with blue skies but I feel like theres always frequent spells of rainy weather that ruin the summery, hot and humid vibe I wants these parts of the map to have.

 

I think going forward Rockstar really needs to look at giving us some control over the weather in the settings.

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Cutter De Blanc
2 hours ago, Dark Rosewood Varnish said:

I still think the weather in this game is among it's biggest flaws. Not the actual weather effects because they all look fine but just the erratic changes and unrealistic frequency of rain you get in certain parts of the map.

 

I just feel in Lemoyne, New Austin and the Great Plains section of WE it rains way too much. In these parts of the map I just want prolonged and consistent sunshine with blue skies but I feel like theres always frequent spells of rainy weather that ruin the summery, hot and humid vibe I wants these parts of the map to have.

 

I think going forward Rockstar really needs to look at giving us some control over the weather in the settings.

Just a "Change Weather" cheat would be nifty. f*cking R* logic, best weather effects in a game, no weather cheat

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Mr. Jabe

 

12 hours ago, FalloutKid14 said:

Exactly man. In RDR i would some times end up there when calmly riding my horse around the map and when i entered Tall Trees the whole calming scenery and that bit of fear of unforgiving wildlife made it feel like i was in endless world of some old cozy bedtime story. Despite being just a portion of the map, it felt bigger than the entire map of RDR. But that's just my opinion...

I think RDR2 is partly a victim of it's own visual fidelity in this regard - the draw distances being so much better and the vistas rendered in such greater detail and image quality. This is particularly evident in the remade New Austin/West Elizabeth. By being able to see more and further than in the original game this has the unintended consequence of making the world feel smaller. At least, that was my perception.

 

I think it also speaks to Rockstar's current design philosophy in terms of map design though. Starting with GTA V and continuing into RDR2, they really seem to want to create these grand, sweeping vistas for players to take in. These are obviously visually spectacular and breathtaking to behold (especially on first sight), however, they almost all involve allowing you to see across pretty much the entire map. Take some of the peaks in RDR2 for example - the watchtower up in the Grizzlies, Mounts Shann and Hagen, just southwest of Wapiti. The views from up there all encompass the vast majority of the "new" map's landmass. Taking in, what are supposed to be, four different states of land. Even from just standing atop the great incline south of the Heartlands at the edge of the New Hannover border, you can see all across the neighbouring state of Lemoyne right the way up to its end at the shoreline where St. Denis is. This latter one I personally feel is to the detriment of the game world's believability - it makes Lemoyne feel tiny and rather artificial in terms of how many landmarks and places are condensed into the one area.

 

In RDR(1) in contrast, there was no view where you could get a really good look across the whole landmass. The great cliff between McFarlane's Ranch and Armadillo made sure of that whilst the highest peak in the game - at Nekoti Rock - only let you see as far as Mexico to the south (and in much less clarity as I referred to earlier). The world in general was much flatter and the elevation that did exist (as with the great cliff) was probably included to actually prevent you seeing too far owing to the limited technology of the time. Whether a consequence of limitation or not, however, I think this actually made the original game's world "feel" bigger. You could find yourself in individual parts of the map, like Tall Trees as you said, and not be able to see too far beyond your current surroundings. In some parts you could see further, like in the New Austin desert obviously, but not so far that you could get the best reference for where you were in relation to different landmarks. There would always be a rock formation or haze to limit your view. You had to get good at memorising the roads and pathways and/or were more reliant on the map to guide you, which also probably served to make the world feel bigger as you had to travel longer with the paths not necessarily being direct at getting you from A to B.

 

So yeah, in a way I think the advancement of technology and Rockstar's ambition to actually "show" off their grand, sweeping worlds has been a bit of a curse as well as a blessing. A blessing for sure in how beautiful the resultant views and expanses have been. But a curse in terms of the authenticity of the world as a real and believable landmass, particularly when compared to how big Rockstar are otherwise trying to convince you they are (i.e. the supposedly four-state world of RDR2's "main map").  I do love the views, don't get me wrong, but I think in future they should consider more how letting you see the whole world might actually end up making it feel smaller and more artificial.

 

Apologies for the long-windedness! 

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McBando
8 hours ago, John's haircut said:

You can hold and press to smoke online, they added it with an update 🙃

finally they did something right, now they need to add it to single-player or else they're goobers. 8/10 no freemode bank robberies is kind of dumb when RDR1 John working for the feds with his wife/son kidnapped held in a prison can rob banks. 

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Caffeination

This is in no way an unpopular opinion, but I don't know where else to post this, and it's not worth making a thread over it.

 

There are times where I see people play Red Dead Redemption 2, so I go through the typical "man, I feel like replaying RDR2" phase, but then I remember that Rockstar decided that making stallion scrotum shrink in cold weather was much more important than a New Game+ in a late 2018 game.

 

I feel like going through the story again, interact with Dutch's gang and see what details I missed, but I do NOT feel like grinding my health, stamina, deadeye, the little charms you made at the fence to give yourself some minor buffs, re-exploring the map, redrawing and restudying all the animals and plants and landmarks, gathering the material once again for increased inventory space... and goddamn Algernon and his flowers and feathers, just for that stupid hat that goes with nothing and pathetic revolver that tickles enemies while missing their heads.

 

I'm not asking for all the money and weapons and items back, quite the contrary, I just don't want to redo the non-story content. Even some of the prologue-exclusive perks are useless, like that pronghorn charm which prevents carcasses stowed on your horse from rotting. Why even put this if we can't get it unless if we complete the vast majority of the game? What's the POINT of having carcasses if it's only useful to give them to Pearson for camp accessories? Sell them? While you're stuffed with over $20K as Marston?

 

Good grief, Rockstar. Good. f*cking. Grief.

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Kubigz

Yes! New Game+ would be awesome addition!

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Sentinel Driver

I hate Dutch more than Micah really. Dutch is the one who betrayed the gang. If he had just listened to everyone else in the gang when they were saying "Micah is an untrustworthy asshole" the game would be over after chapter 1. Micah is never rescued from prison

the end. Dutch and his f*cking plan. Micah is the type of person who preys on people who are easy to manipulate. I think that's his most dangerous character trait, being a treacherous textbook psychopath. He wouldn't dare to try to take on the gang when it was in its full strength because he knew that Charles, Arthur, John and all the other honorable boahs would put him down in less than a second.

 

Also mission design could be better. Like that valentine bar brawl. You beat up 1 guy, go help one of your friends, Tommy comes out and you beat him in a scripted "mash button to win" sequence.

The brawl is too short, there isn't enough brawling and you don't even feel like a winner. You didn't beat anyone. You didn't do anything impressive. You mashed a button.... you did something a monkey could have done....

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shadyslady

This game has the wrong name. 

It should be called Red Dead Redemption 0

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PuerAzaelis

I like RDR2. 

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Luna Lovegood

Please no more revenge & being ratted out plot for the next game, the storytelling is good but im getting bored almost every R* titles is about revenge and betrayal since GTAIII which is getting predictable 

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billiejoearmstrong8
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On 5/10/2020 at 5:33 AM, shadyslady said:

This game has the wrong name. 

It should be called Red Dead Redemption 0

It should be called Red Dead [something other than Redemption] so I could search for anything about RDR without wading through millions of RDR2 results

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shadyslady
10 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

It should be called Red Dead [something other than Redemption] so I could search for anything about RDR without wading through millions of RDR2 results

Or this. But 2 implies sequel, which it is release wise. 

But content wise it's definitely a prequel 

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Hunterh-O

Although the game is already outstanding. I believe a beta version of RDR2 might have been a better game.... Considering what we know of the beta.

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LeonVegaSuarez

Not including liar's dice but dominos in the game is a baffling decision.

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JetNormalGuy
On 5/10/2020 at 10:24 PM, PuerAzaelis said:

I like RDR2. 

haha, he likes rdr2. what a loser amarite guys?

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Sonicdude

I personally think Unshaken is an overrated song

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TheJesus1996
21 hours ago, LeonVegaSuarez said:

Not including liar's dice but dominos in the game is a baffling decision.

John mentions it when he plays Poker... "one day I want to play liars dice, not because I'm a liar..."

Looks like the developers were aware but never bothered 

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Legion of Hell

Considering the sad state of RDR2 currently (and cockstar making no effort to fix it), I'm glad this game didn't win GOTY

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TheOriginalGunslinger

Dutch is the best character in the entire game. I had to say it given the thread title. Dutch was f*cking incredible in the game.

Don’t get me wrong though as I absolutely loved Arthur as well. After playing through Red Dead Redemption 2 going back to Red Dead Redemption felt more richer in terms of knowing the story more. Dutch was f*cking crazy and I swear after Hosea died I felt like he went even more into a downward spiral.

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JetNormalGuy

OK go easy on me but :

Playing Low Honor is pretty damn fun, that is until you reach chapter 5...

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