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DirtCheap

Am I the only one that dislikes the hunting?

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DirtCheap
1 hour ago, Jimbatron said:

Yes for sure I know what you mean. I wasted far too long around the Braithwaite Manor looking for rare birds in my first play-through - and whilst most will spawn there, the Upper Montana River, the north part of the Kamassa River and Little Creek River are all better depending on which type you need.

 

I'm actually about half way through drafting a 100% completion guide on this site, and there's a couple of other important things that can make the whole thing less painful. Consider these questions

 

1) Do you need whatever you're hunting urgently or can you deal with other tasks in between?

2) What different types of animals are you trying to get a perfect skin for at the same time?

 

Take for example the first question. If you want the Legend of the East Satchel, you will need, amongst other things, seven perfect deer skins. But do you want it right away? Because if you can wait a while, there is no point in hunting seven three star deer in a row. If you simply play the game, travel back between missions, and check out every deer you see, it is almost certain you will find seven three-star Deers by the end of chapter III without proactively looking for them.

 

Then consider the second question. If you are looking for multiple animals, quite often some locations will be the spawn point for multiple rare animals, and unless you are looking for it, you may miss the opportunity. One example is the Islands in Flat Iron lake. It's a great place to get an Owl (you'll need a feather for crafting a homing Tomahawk for the weapons expert challenges), and an Iguana (needed for the satchels).

 

The guide I'm writing will attempt to highlight a lot of these combos.

 

Granted one thing that's a real pain is the Moose. Be in Ambarino in the right spots, save and reload until one appears is the best I can offer.

 

1. Yes, in some of my playthroughs, I try do the things I didn't do in previous ones. I never crafted any satchels, and it's surprisingly straight-forward. It's very time-consuming, but it's not that hard, just grindy.

2. Many types. I try to hunt the more profitable ones, and have been scouring the swamps for this damn Parakeet. Sometimes I give up, but I'm real interested in finding them, so I have myself to blame then.

 

As for the moose, it seems it spawns near Cairn Lake. Unfortunately, you'll need alot of Herbivore Bait. And the only way to get more herbivore bait is either buy them off Fences in the Epilogue to craft more satchels. Obviously, I go for the latter as...you know. The satchels need alot of pelts, and as you can see, my problem lies there: getting Perfect pelts to get a satchel with more room for bait to attract a very elusive creature,

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Jimbatron

^ Yes the parakeets are definitely a pain. I've only seen them once in around 240 hours of gameplay. And the mooses I have only come across when passing through that area to missions - never when looking for them.

 

There does at times appear to be an evil quality to it. For instance, it took ages to find a Woodpecker for the 2nd Hunting request, after I'd got it and was on the 3rd request it seemed like there was one sitting on every rock grinning back at me. It's probably psychological but at times you'd swear it was programmed to annoy you.

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Dark Rosewood Varnish
1 hour ago, Jimbatron said:

^ Yes the parakeets are definitely a pain. I've only seen them once in around 240 hours of gameplay. And the mooses I have only come across when passing through that area to missions - never when looking for them.

 

There does at times appear to be an evil quality to it. For instance, it took ages to find a Woodpecker for the 2nd Hunting request, after I'd got it and was on the 3rd request it seemed like there was one sitting on every rock grinning back at me. It's probably psychological but at times you'd swear it was programmed to annoy you.

 

Yeah the woodpecker took me forever to find. I then discovered that spot along the Kamassa River just south of Brandywine Drop where they appear in abundance along with Robins, Orioles, Sparrows, Songbirds and pretty much every other small bird you have to send her. 

1 hour ago, DirtCheap said:

 

 

As for the moose, it seems it spawns near Cairn Lake. Unfortunately, you'll need alot of Herbivore Bait. And the only way to get more herbivore bait is either buy them off Fences in the Epilogue to craft more satchels. Obviously, I go for the latter as...you know. The satchels need alot of pelts, and as you can see, my problem lies there: getting Perfect pelts to get a satchel with more room for bait to attract a very elusive creature,

 

The regular western moose is pretty easy to find from my experience. They consistently spawn just north of the camp at Beaver Hollow along the Kamassa river bed, at barrow lagoon during the night if you drop herbivore bait and along the Dakota river bed (the part that runs past Diablo Ridge)

 

The Western Bull Moose however is extremely rare (especially a three star variation) and I've only ever came across it 3/4 times in the 4 months I've had the game. Funny enough I literally just got one not too long ago at the spawn point near Willards Rest. Other than this you'll find one swimming in the lake at Owanjila, by Lake Isobella when you first go back there and around the area where the witches cauldron is in the West Grizzlies - from my experience anyway.

 

My most frustrating experience with a western bull moose was when I stumbled upon a three star one by accident - before this I had been trying to get one for an eternity. I slowly galloped towards it but it saw me and got spooked, I figured I'd just follow where it went over the hill and snipe it from afar, easy. Then out of nowhere it came charging over the hill and crashed head on into me and my horse with such force that my horse was in critical condition and the moose ended up on the ground as well which meant its three star status was now one star so I just let it go as I never bother with one or two star pelts.  

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ShayD

I can honestly say I spent more time hunting in this game than I did doing missions. I went hunting every morning in game to provide food for the camp and thought it was a great activity. I like the whole system of searching for 3* animals, getting that perfect shot. Some of my most satisfying moments were after looking for a 3* panther in the swamps or a 3* moose and securing a clean kill after an hour of tracking/searching.

 

If you hit wrong and damage the pelt one could argue you need to sharpen your marksman skills, or hunt on foot to prevent horse movement altering your shot. I did about 80% of my hunting on foot too, only calling my horse after the kill to load the pelt or carcass.

 

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Lonely-Martin
On 2/5/2019 at 11:17 PM, Jimbatron said:

^ Yes the parakeets are definitely a pain. I've only seen them once in around 240 hours of gameplay. And the mooses I have only come across when passing through that area to missions - never when looking for them.

 

There does at times appear to be an evil quality to it. For instance, it took ages to find a Woodpecker for the 2nd Hunting request, after I'd got it and was on the 3rd request it seemed like there was one sitting on every rock grinning back at me. It's probably psychological but at times you'd swear it was programmed to annoy you.

That evil quality you mention is always a real bark with GTA, lol. Many tines I go off looking for a car to steal and it's nowhere to be seen for what feels like forever, but once it's in my garage, they spawn everywhere.

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B_E_N_1992

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Kemasus

After completing the game and utilizing chapter two and three saves I put restrictions on myself that all wildlife killed must be pristine. Both identifying and hunting pristine birds in flight has become quite the challenge

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On 2/5/2019 at 11:17 PM, Jimbatron said:

^ Yes the parakeets are definitely a pain. I've only seen them once in around 240 hours of gameplay. And the mooses I have only come across when passing through that area to missions - never when looking for them.

 

There does at times appear to be an evil quality to it. For instance, it took ages to find a Woodpecker for the 2nd Hunting request, after I'd got it and was on the 3rd request it seemed like there was one sitting on every rock grinning back at me. It's probably psychological but at times you'd swear it was programmed to annoy you.

Yep, Same here. Seen the parakeets once in 300 hours playtime. Managed to kill a few... never seen them since

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JC Hammer

As mentioned earlier, don't even bother hunting for perfect pelts until you've crafted the Legendary Buck trinket. 

 

With it even "good" pelts will become "perfect" if you put a good headshot on the animal. This brings the perfect pelt chance closer to 50%

 

Perfect Pelts

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Deadman2112
Posted (edited)
On 2/5/2019 at 5:17 PM, Jimbatron said:

^ Yes the parakeets are definitely a pain. I've only seen them once in around 240 hours of gameplay. And the mooses I have only come across when passing through that area to missions - never when looking for them.

 

There does at times appear to be an evil quality to it. For instance, it took ages to find a Woodpecker for the 2nd Hunting request, after I'd got it and was on the 3rd request it seemed like there was one sitting on every rock grinning back at me. It's probably psychological but at times you'd swear it was programmed to annoy you.

 

I know this post is old but...

 

I've used this method repeatedly for the parakeets and it works just about every time. Two friends test it on their systems and it worked for them as well.

So hopefully this will help others...

 

I apologize for the poor spelling in the video...

Could have went back and edited it but I've already deleted the majority of the footage from one of the main parts of the video.

 

 

Regarding the hunting requests and other animals required to complete the satchels...

 

I find, the minute that they request something, those animals seem to spawn less frequently.

 

A small example of this would be would-be Pierson's rabbit request.

 

Under normal circumstances, I literally can't go anywhere without running over a rabbit but once he asked for one it was like they became scarce.

 

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Buddy Hightower

When I feel like hunting, I kill everything I see (with proper weapon) and store it. If it's a 3 star it gets sold to the trapper (or donated to Pearson if I'm still in the first 6 chapters AND he needs it for crafting) while anything less than 3 stars gets sold to the butcher.

This will make you extremely wealthy.

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t-p-d-a
Posted (edited)

You can find the male moose at random spots like Cairn Lake or O' Creagh's Run OR you use a fixed spawn point for the male moose. Yes the male moose has a fixed spawn point. He spawns 6:00 AM at this place.
You can stand above the waterfall or at the haunted forest with the weird voices. Make sure that this place is clean. Which mean no cadaver or crime at this area. If yes, travel to another state, sleep and save/load to reset the spawn system at this area.

 

TVPAKoR.jpg

 

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volta2001

I wish the hunting was harder. You shouldn’t be able to get perfect from shooting them in the face with high a powered rifle. A perfect heart shot with an improved arrow would be ideal, with the heart being a small target. There should be a reward for hunting with a bow in a realistic way. I do it that way for personal enjoyment but I wish it was more part of the game. Hunting traps would’ve been a great addition as well 

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StyxTx
On 2/2/2019 at 6:09 AM, Display Name said:

Humans are great at adapting to harsh conditions. Eating birds is not necessary and gives you only slight stamina and health boost (without spices), so you are meant to eat it only when you really need it and there is no other animals around.

 

He takes gator's head, because the entire carcass is too heavy to carry. With other animals the character can sell entire carcass for money, with gator the most he can sell is its skull. 

He could be taking only 4 teeth, because the rest are rotten or damaged and only perfect ones sell.

 

Maybe wolf's heart was used in medicine? Who knows.

 

 

The one thing this game is good at is making me hungry for some wolf's meat. Why is wolf's meat the only meat in the game that fortifies all your cores? I want to taste wolf's meat one day, there has to be something Rockstar devs know that we do not.

Wolf meat isn't the only core fortification meat. All big game meat is. Wolf, alligator, big cats.

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Taterman
9 hours ago, StyxTx said:

Wolf meat isn't the only core fortification meat. All big game meat is. Wolf, alligator, big cats.

And bears!

 

 

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StyxTx
2 hours ago, Taterman said:

And bears!

 

 

Yup. I remembered later on I forgot to mention them. 🤔

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Cyper

I think it makes sense that there is luck involved in finding perfect pelts. I'm not an expert in this, but at least logically, it seem reasonable that some animals have more deteriorated pelt for natural reasons; age, injuries, lack of food etc. So then there will of course be a bit of luck involved in finding these animals.

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StyxTx
1 hour ago, Cyper said:

I think it makes sense that there is luck involved in finding perfect pelts. I'm not an expert in this, but at least logically, it seem reasonable that some animals have more deteriorated pelt for natural reasons; age, injuries, lack of food etc. So then there will of course be a bit of luck involved in finding these animals.

I'd agree. I've seen some pretty scrungy looking wild animals.

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Deadman2112
Posted (edited)

Thought I'd add this as well in support of the earlier post regarding the parakeet.

 

This is just some additional information that might help people locate them.

 

 

Best of luck...

 

Edit...

Technical difficulties I'll have the link corrected in a moment

Edit..

Link corrected sorry for the inconvenience.

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Adrenalist

A little misinfo I feel compelled to clarify here:
 

little birds with two stars will harvest as perfect if you shoot them with a small game arrow
 

larger animals shot as three stars will remain three stars if you shoot them *ladies man voice* up the butt

 

Moose spawn when you walk up to their respective spawning location; not run, or trot up on your horse
 

 

I find it difficult empathize with those that get frustrated and feel as if it is arduous... it’s a predominantly voluntary task. That said, I think it’s a brilliantly executed way to voluntarily level up on outfits, trinkets, satchels, etc. and it coerces you to explore. Or maybe I’m just blinded by love...

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LeonVegaSuarez

After over 400 hours playing this game and getting to 100%, I've mainly been hunting/fishing while playing this game for the last 6 months at least. Just love it and it's very relaxing to me.

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Mac-

I love the way they have handled hunting in this game, i only hunt perfect animals great past time.

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PuerAzaelis

The hunting is a major part of the game and I really like it.

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Mister Pink

Hunting is a lot of fun. I really enjoy it all. Listening out for different wildlife, just glassin' and taking in all the scenery. I spent many hours just hunting. The great thing about RDR2 as apposed to another open-world game is that by hunting, it asks to you live in the world, experience it for survival and it rewards you (unique clothing, feeding camp and your own health). Aside from it being satisfying, it's highly rewarding. 

 

Some times, gaming is just great for that. You know, not this hyper-intense explosions and action but this tranquil living in the world the developers have created. Yesterday it was a cold, wet windy day IRL here. But I was in some beautiful valley, hunting among the lavender, and navigating my way through hills and eery forrest, keeping an eye out for surprise bears and cougars. Ending up killing two black bears with both with perfect pelts that were right beside each other. 

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GroveStGTAV

I bet, the people who says, "Hunting was fun" didnt even tried to hunt 4 perfect moose pelt for the trapper or small birds for the hunting request

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t-p-d-a

For me, the moose is still hard to find at random places. Yea there is a fixed spawned point brandywine drop (see above, my post)

there is another random spawn point for the moose: in the video 12:41 . Wow i never saw a moose at this place and he is swimming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggsesIn6T18&list=PL1jjPcfEsu2XOrn2pgH61sMiaMLO6L-Aq&index=79

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Deadman2112
Posted (edited)

So I wanted to point out something that might answer why some of these animals don't spawn.

 

Over the years game makers have done their best to eliminate load screens in an effort to make the game play feel seamless.

 

In most cases this is done by forcing you to crawl through small narrow gaps and things of this nature.

...effectively slowing you down and giving the game a chance to load a given area.

 

This works great on linear type games, and is even used during several of the missions.

 

However in the open world setting of the game, there are no deterrents slowing you down.

In most cases this reduces the games ability to load all of its available assets.

 

If you couple this with the fact that these animals are already going spawn at a much lower percentage rate than other animals, then this seems like a logical answer.

This is why I say approach the area slowly and quietly. 

 

If you just rush into an area where they should spawn, the game may not have had enough time to load them.

 

Small example...

Let's say I'm going to head to the falls at the Northern end of the map to get a moose to spawn.

 

I travel to annesburg and take the railroad tracks around to get there.

...but before I ever reach the area, I Dismount my horse and travel the rest of the way on foot.

Moving slowly.

This gives the the game a chance to actually load the animal.

 

If the animal is not there I'll move out of the area for a few minutes. 

Like, to the area where the meteor house is.

After letting some time pass, I then approach same area again, doing so slowly.

 

hope this shed some light on this.

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Lonely-Martin
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On 6/6/2020 at 9:44 PM, GroveStGTAV said:

I bet, the people who says, "Hunting was fun" didnt even tried to hunt 4 perfect moose pelt for the trapper or small birds for the hunting request

Did all of that in each of my playthroufhs too, good job ya didn't put money on that, lol. :)

 

Great post/tips from @Deadman2112 above though. Absolutely agree on the slow and steady approach.

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brain_bank

I personally like hunting idk why, but it’s relaxing for me. Except when I’m fighting wolves, bears and cougars. 

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JetNormalGuy

I can't forget the time were I wanted to catch 3 black bears for the trappers, which took me 4 GODDAMN HOURS because the stupid little sh*t was always a 1 star and the ones who were 2 stars wouldn't become 3 even if I had the trinket.

other than that, yeah hunting is fun.

 

 

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