Boozey St John Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Just want to know everyone's opinion on this. Overheard a conversation about this on the subway and it was food for thought. 1898, Lonely-Martin and StuntCurry707 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viciadogames Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Don't think so, seeing as they're trying to make this GTA in the old west. Also I've been hearing a lot on 12 year olds on the mic lately. StuntCurry707, Lonely-Martin, tonko and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1898 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 SP yes but it looks like OL is in the hands of the same bunch that brings us flying pogo sticks in that other game. DentureDynamite, stroup, Syrens and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozey St John Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) I thought the same thing- considering theyre pushing so much PvP. Not to mention, Gold was patched in a week later. Edited January 31, 2019 by Boozey St James Actual sentence 1898 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlitoz-E Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Yeah obviously. No squeakers on the EU servers and I haven't been shot in a long time, people just riding past rusbeckia, Dr.Rosenthal, Mistermilan07 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Lynx 23 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I certainly haven't been noticing many griefers in RDO lately. They seem to have no real advantages over players like the do in GTA Online. And apparently reporting someone for so much as griefing will earn the griefer(s) a temp ban. Three days for a first punishment I have read. Mistermilan07, Dr.Rosenthal and rusbeckia 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisman_83 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, Karlitoz-E said: Yeah obviously. No squeakers on the EU servers and I haven't been shot in a long time, people just riding past Can us from the UK rejoin your EU servers after March 29th? Chrismads, DonnieVega, Karlitoz-E and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4eyedcoupe Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Talisman_83 said: Can us from the UK rejoin your EU servers after March 29th? ^ Gave me a good laugh here in the US. Syrens and Talisman_83 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieVega Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Talisman_83 said: Can us from the UK rejoin your EU servers after March 29th? Don't think so... But you Scots can always rejoin after you secede from the UK! Sean Connery for president! Edited January 31, 2019 by DonnieVega Van_Hellsing, Talisman_83, Mistermilan07 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarksunDaFirst Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Depends on the mode. Gunrush certainly doesn't seem so because it's just another FortPUbBlackout mode that we've now seen infect our gaming airwaves for the past 18 months. DentureDynamite and Lonely-Martin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBirdCoot Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I would like to think yes, but I am probably wrong. Getting jump scared sometimes when someone new enters a lobby yelling or whistling and it just turns out you have to mute the bunch all over again. The sound of a Grizzly bear ain't nearly as terryfing as the squeakers pitch. Mac-, DentureDynamite, Red Lynx 23 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisman_83 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, DonnieVega said: Don't think so... But you Scots can always rejoin after you secede from the UK! Sean Connery for president! One day we shall! 1898 and DonnieVega 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I would lean towards mature. Online is definitely trying to get a younger audience than single player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxJazzy42xX Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Well. Single player for sure no doubt. Online I'm not so sure yet. We don't really have much of anything and we don't know what new content is coming yet to change the whole fanbase of this game. Right now I'm slightly leaning towards the mature side. Not to say squeakers aren't on or kids/ immature adults(we forget about this one a lot, because they are better griefers) cheesing in the game. Its just that they usually get stomped out quick just for talking. In PVP sessions I love going after the guy on the mic who claims to know the secrets to winning and likes to tell people how to play yet on the bottom of the scoreboard there they are yelling commands. Today it was a quiet lobby of a PVP playlist. We are playing on Most Wanted in Tumbleweed and the guy start saying that since he is back he was going straight to the top....so the whole lobby with NO MICS seemed to agree to find this guy and make him the top priority with out having the biggest score. It wasn't long until we he got the message and left the session before the match ended. Even though its feels like its going to be geared eventually to the less mature in the future. Its moments like these that makes me want to say otherwise because me personally has never seen things like that happen on GTAO. So yeah BS happens, but I feel the community is fighting back better now on RDRO than on GTAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pressure Drop Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Single player and Online are worlds apart, and clearly not worked on by the same people. There is nothing at all mature about auto-aim. Online is at a crisis point IMO and without drastic changes and actual content soon, it's going to die out. Disgcraceful how they have handled it so far, so much wasted potential. Red Lynx 23 and 1898 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusbeckia Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 hours ago, ThaBirdCoot said: The sound of a Grizzly bear ain't nearly as terryfing as the squeakers pitch. loooool xD 3 hours ago, Pressure Drop said: Single player and Online are worlds apart, and clearly not worked on by the same people. There is nothing at all mature about auto-aim. Online is at a crisis point IMO and without drastic changes and actual content soon, it's going to die out. Disgcraceful how they have handled it so far, so much wasted potential. Yea right... you can‘t be mature using auto-aim lol are you freeaimwarriors even hearing yourselves sometimes? sicksick6ix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALifeOfMisery Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 9 hours ago, 1898 said: SP yes but it looks like OL is in the hands of the same bunch that brings us flying pogo sticks in that other game. Basically this. I had hoped R* would aim for a more mature audience with RDO, those hopes have faded significantly post release. tonko and 1898 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusbeckia Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said: Basically this. I had hoped R* would aim for a more mature audience with RDO, those hopes have faded significantly post release. From my experience this community is MUCH more mature than gta‘s. I rarely get griefed, people mind their own business to a great extent, anyone I met so far in this game is 20+ and I‘m usually the person who is very keen to adding players. Rarely I hear children through the microphone, but it‘s by far not regularly. I‘m pretty sure those coward players that try to kill you and change session after you killed them are children mostly. Bt yea... I don‘t think I can project my experience on others, since it often seems like I‘m playing a different game when I read about 24h pvp freeroam war, griefing that makes the game unplayable, etc I‘m playing since day one and yes, it was worse concerning griefing in the beginning, but I’m not sure if that might have been due to my low level. most people ranting about griefers are low levels who don‘t have an idea about a strategy to survive in this game it seems, and might be even immature themselves. In fact, I never met a player who is that kind of psychopath-type griefer we know very well from gta. they make lobbies unplayable and look like clowns. Griefers in RDO are mostly noobs who exploit situations, almost all very good players were rather friendly and minded their own business. all in all, this game is like an adult version of gta imo. Edited February 1, 2019 by rusbeckia ALifeOfMisery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assblaster Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Tons of psycho kids playing on the weekends, obviously. During the week -- especially at night -- sessions tend to be a helluva lot more peaceful and enjoyable. XxJazzy42xX, ThaBirdCoot, Van_Hellsing and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALifeOfMisery Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, rusbeckia said: From my experience this community is MUCH more mature than gta‘s. I rarely get griefed, people mind their own business to a great extent, anyone I met so far in this game is 20+ and I‘m usually the person who is very keen to adding players. Rarely I hear children through the microphone, but it‘s by far not regularly. I‘m pretty sure those coward players that try to kill you and change session after you killed them are children mostly. Bt yea... I don‘t think I can project my experience on others, since it often seems like I‘m playing a different game when I read about 24h pvp freeroam war, griefing that makes the game unplayable, etc I‘m playing since day one and yes, it was worse concerning griefing in the beginning, but I’m not sure if that might have been due to my low level. most people ranting about griefers are low levels who don‘t have an idea about a strategy to survive in this game it seems, and might be even immature themselves. In fact, I never met a player who is that kind of psychopath-type griefer we know very well from gta. they make lobbies unplayable and look like clowns. Griefers in RDO are mostly noobs who exploit situations, almost all very good players were rather friendly and minded their own business. all in all, this game is like an adult version of gta imo. Before Christmas I would have agreed, in that RDO seemed to have a more mature player base, even if it hadn't (IMO) been specifically aimed at one. Since Christmas I've noticed far more obviously younger/less mature players, judging by the voices on mic, what they're actually saying, blasting out sh*tty music etc. Also the level of annoying behaviour has increased, again, only in my personal experience. I don't necessarily mean killing, but behaviour such as trolling missions seems more prevalent. What I do agree 100% with you about is griefing. Again, my own personal experience, but I haven't been in a situation so far that I would consider griefing. I've been killed and lost pelts once, and while that was annoying, one kill isn't being griefed, IMO. In fact, no one really tries to kill me at all, maybe only on a handful of occasions. I do play cautiously, change lobby if my preferred hunting routes are busy, hunt in quiet areas, plan routes, check the map often, even shoot first if I'm in doubt. rusbeckia, DonnieVega and Chunkey_Monkey 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pressure Drop Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 hours ago, rusbeckia said: loooool xD Yea right... you can‘t be mature using auto-aim lol are you freeaimwarriors even hearing yourselves sometimes? I didn't say that, if you read my post properly. I said there is nothing mature about auto-aim Can you think of any other game with an 18 or M rating that has such pronounced auto-aim? (Apart from GTAO of course!) There are people who are not as skilled at the game and might prefer auto aim. That's fine, you do what makes you happy... but do not force everyone to use it, give us the option to choose whether we want to use it or not. Do you not understand how much improved the PvP would be without the game hand holding you? Shootouts would be much more intense, bullets would be flying everywhere, and you could move around without being shot in the head by a .22 varmint every time you spawn (at a terribly placed spawn point) It's not about being "superior" to auto aimers, it's about treating the playerbase as adults (as the games rating implies) and giving us the freedom to do what we want to do. I would even use auto aim myself, in story missions or for hunting etc. But for PvP, auto aim is completely boring, and I know there are many, many people who agree, just take a look at the flood of comments in any news post from Rockstar. Arbitrary restrictions are rife in Rockstar games, we do not want our hands held. XxJazzy42xX and 1898 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1898 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) I have no problem with kids playing, they should be able to enjoy the game just like the rest of us. Also wouldn't care if the entire map was filled with griefers as long as they give us free-aim, controller vs controller lobbies that are free of these ability gimmicks. But I'm less than hopeful, especially with anything new still months away and the amount of money already spent on cards. It's hard to believe how much better RDR1 OL was compared to this 8 years in development sequel. Edited February 1, 2019 by 1898 Miketv, Lonely-Martin and XxJazzy42xX 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUT THE BENZ Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 16 hours ago, Karlitoz-E said: Yeah obviously. No squeakers on the EU servers and I haven't been shot in a long time, people just riding past Is there another europe I ain't heard of?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBirdCoot Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, BUT THE BENZ said: Is there another europe I ain't heard of?! 4eyedcoupe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4eyedcoupe Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 ^ That Europe was horrible! rusbeckia and ThaBirdCoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxJazzy42xX Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Assblaster said: Tons of psycho kids playing on the weekends, obviously. During the week -- especially at night -- sessions tend to be a helluva lot more peaceful and enjoyable. Yeah, because during the week is when I have my days off and a day off on the weekend due to 10 hour work days and this is correct. During night time on the week especially, but during the week in general its nice. I can roam the cities with no problem, but now if I try to do the same thing on Saturday then we might have a problem. Even though the weekends are crazy wild its easy pickings too. I don't mind kids doing what they do though especially if they play the game like everyone else......its these dumb adults that like to order people around on the mic, griefing players, breathing hard on the mic(what are you doing man.......you are just sitting), choking and coughing on the mic, etc. rusbeckia, Boozey St John, Lonely-Martin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurther61287 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Rdo isnt intended for any specific group of gamers which is exactly why its suffering. They took out the pros. Gta I could pick up a pro pay for different services and kill her and get my dough back. Gta far more mature then rdr. With the fortnite craze and under 15 kids all into that stuff the big suits at rockstar will cater to that crowd and completely ostracize themselves from the people with money that would easily drop 100s real money if online was as immersive as single player. Single player is far more mature even then online. Online is so watered down it amazes me they had the stones to launch it at all this barebones. Lonely-Martin and Boozey St John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrens Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 This question is a weird one. I mean, GTA:O and RDR2:O are based at a mature audience obviously, they're only meant to be played by adults. Rockstar know this doesn't really happen though, so they can take the piss really, why solve issues when it's all adults playing and they should be civilized enough, when in reality it's 90% minors that'd re actually playing. Trying to solve issues that technically shouldn't be there in the first place is always an awkward situation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozey St John Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) These are all great responses! Keep 'em coming! Without a doubt, SP is geared to a much more audience, at least we all agree on this! Edited February 1, 2019 by Boozey St James Auto corrected Pressure Drop, XxJazzy42xX and Syrens 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van_Hellsing Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 With Christmas and new year, the amount of griefing was very high. As the schools started again at the beginning of the year, the griefing dropped a lot. And a lot of kids dropped out of rdr2 online due to the lack of content. Grinding and increasing your level takes some serious time. So players who are still around are more committed. For me, the lack of content is a blessing in disguise. Bring out the marshmallows. I can increase my level and fish in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...